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What do you think is Harrisons ceiling

Hicks is obviously a top half reliever at best

He was supposed to be a top level prospect, but he did poorly last year and he got leapfrogged by Birdson and Roupp. I am not feeling good about him as a prospect. He might not be more than a no. 4 pitcher in an MLB rotation. The only encouraging thing I can find is that he added to his velocity this season. Last year his fastball was only 92.5 mph. This year it is up to 95.1 mph. However, it's a small sample size so far this year and maybe it goes down over the course of the year.
 

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He was supposed to be a top level prospect, but he did poorly last year and he got leapfrogged by Birdson and Roupp. I am not feeling good about him as a prospect. He might not be more than a no. 4 pitcher in an MLB rotation. The only encouraging thing I can find is that he added to his velocity this season. Last year his fastball was only 92.5 mph. This year it is up to 95.1 mph. However, it's a small sample size so far this year and maybe it goes down over the course of the year.

Which means he probably has an arm injury on the way lol.

Yea incredibly low haul
 

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Which means he probably has an arm injury on the way lol.

Yea incredibly low haul

Yeah, Boston fans are rightfully angry about this. The Red Sox optioned Kyle Harrision to AAA, which makes sense because he has some work to do before he is part of a big league rotation. He only came up to start a few games for the Giants because Verlander got injured.
 

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I wonder what I should expect from Ohtani pitching wise? An inning or two
 

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Which means he probably has an arm injury on the way lol.

Yea incredibly low haul
The only way I can make sense of this is that Red Sox management wanted to get out of the 10 year deal they signed Devers to in 2023.

I think it was $313 million?

That's a lot to pay for a guy who, right or wrong, has pretty much been a malcontent all season long.
 

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The only way I can make sense of this is that Red Sox management wanted to get out of the 10 year deal they signed Devers to in 2023.

I think it was $313 million?

That's a lot to pay for a guy who, right or wrong, has pretty much been a malcontent all season long.

odd to say... but i dont think it was about the money at all... it was more about rebuilding with all these young kids... you cant have a role model who is ME FIRST... even if the red sox organization were the reason why he became ME FIRST...
 

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odd to say... but i dont think it was about the money at all... it was more about rebuilding with all these young kids... you cant have a role model who is ME FIRST... even if the red sox organization were the reason why he became ME FIRST...
You're getting a lot of cake lately. Time to go on a diet?
 

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odd to say... but i dont think it was about the money at all... it was more about rebuilding with all these young kids... you cant have a role model who is ME FIRST... even if the red sox organization were the reason why he became ME FIRST...

Okay, but don't you think they could have gotten more?
 

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Okay, but don't you think they could have gotten more?
absolutely... it was a terrible trade for the red sox... and it is also JUNE...

but the fact that he is DH only at least for the first year(why would a team trade for him and then have bad relationship with him right away), maybe the market is not THAT high....

but yea, even if the above is true, he should have gotten the red sox more...

but it also sounds like the red sox didnt shop him around... and the Giants just made the right offer at the right time...

i think the red sox were afraid to shop him around, because the atmosphere would have just gotten worse... and then the trade for Devers could have become even worse for the red sox...

The Red sox blew this in every single way...
 

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absolutely... it was a terrible trade for the red sox... and it is also JUNE...

but the fact that he is DH only at least for the first year(why would a team trade for him and then have bad relationship with him right away), maybe the market is not THAT high....

but yea, even if the above is true, he should have gotten the red sox more...

but it also sounds like the red sox didnt shop him around... and the Giants just made the right offer at the right time...

i think the red sox were afraid to shop him around, because the atmosphere would have just gotten worse... and then the trade for Devers could have become even worse for the red sox...

The Red sox blew this in every single way...
They blew it when they signed Bregman and told Devers he was gonna DH without even a conversation beforehand.
 

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They blew it when they signed Bregman and told Devers he was gonna DH without even a conversation beforehand.

They should have flipped Devers when they signed Bregman then, 300 mil for a DH is nutty.

They'd have had a better market and not disrupted the team. The only way they don't get smoked in this trade is if Harrison pans out. Hicks on his absolute best day will be a number 5 on a bad team. He is a middle reliever.
 

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They blew it when they signed Bregman and told Devers he was gonna DH without even a conversation beforehand.

yup... you can throw away your glove they said... after signing him for a 313 million dollar contract the previous season
 

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They should have flipped Devers when they signed Bregman then, 300 mil for a DH is nutty.

They'd have had a better market and not disrupted the team. The only way they don't get smoked in this trade is if Harrison pans out. Hicks on his absolute best day will be a number 5 on a bad team. He is a middle reliever.

or just talk to him before signing Bregman... his issue was not playing other positions... it was that he wasnt practicing any because they told him he wont play anything else...

i dont blame him for becomign a ME guy.... when a team shows you no love, thats how it starts...

at least the Giants havent promised him anything... if they ask him to play another position... he might...
 

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or just talk to him before signing Bregman... his issue was not playing other positions... it was that he wasnt practicing any because they told him he wont play anything else...

i dont blame him for becomign a ME guy.... when a team shows you no love, thats how it starts...

at least the Giants havent promised him anything... if they ask him to play another position... he might...

That might make Matt Chapman happy.
 
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