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Series Thread: 1st Round: 3) NY Knicks vs 6) Detroit Pistons

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Detroit led pretty much the entire game. Weak shit

Yeah, I don’t know about the first 3 quarters.

But in the 4th every whistle seemed to go the Knicks way.

Pistons won because they were the more aggressive team. Not because they got benefit of the whistles.
 

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I agree.

But that is the rule.

Harris can’t step toward him there.
I separate what Brunson does slightly from flopping. What Brunson does is foul baiting because he draws guys into real fouls, in very annoying ways, true, but they are fouls. To me flopping is trying to draw something when there is no foul. Semantics, maybe, but there is a difference in my mind.
 

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I don’t love watching it either.

But you aren’t a smart competitor if you aren’t trying to use every advantage you have to get ahead within the rules.

Guy talks about all Brunson’s “talent”.

He is 6 foot nothing. Not fast or explosive by NBA standards. He flat out does not have NBA athleticism.

Brunson is who he is as a player because of his hard work developing an amazing skill set AND his crafty play. It is a large part of what makes him so effective.

While I don’t particularly enjoy watching guys who play like he does, you simply have to appreciate players like Brunson who make the absolute most of the talent that they have.

And if you tell me he gets there any other way?

Sorry, but you are wrong.
You got more shit than a Christmas turkey

you should sell shit on here cause you’d make a fortune with the sheep that follow your every word

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Wow, I’m impressed!
 

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Trae young was told to knock it off years ago, foul baiting…

If Brunson was so obvious, why hasn’t the league told him enough?
 

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Trae young was told to knock it off years ago, foul baiting…

If Brunson was so obvious, why hasn’t the league told him enough?
Trae was fined by the league for an inappropriate gesture made after being called for a flop. It wasn’t for the flop itself. And Brunson isn’t exactly flopping either, he is foul baiting; annoying, not illegal.
 

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Trae was fined by the league for an inappropriate gesture made after being called for a flop. It wasn’t for the flop itself. And Brunson isn’t exactly flopping either, he is foul baiting; annoying, not illegal.
Trae was leaning into an opponent after leaving his feet for a shot…

And Brunson is flopping…
 

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I agree.

But that is the rule.

Harris can’t step toward him there.

Kind of my contention that the rule should change lol. Sure, Harris should move more side to side but he was never going to foul him until Brunson intentionally rammed him. A lot different than Guarding someone in the lane and you know the deal.
 

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Kind of my contention that the rule should change lol. Sure, Harris should move more side to side but he was never going to foul him until Brunson intentionally rammed him. A lot different than Guarding someone in the lane and you know the deal.
What are you going to make the rule, if you are shooting a jump shot you can only jump vertically? Not seeing an easy rule fix.
 

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What are you going to make the rule, if you are shooting a jump shot you can only jump vertically? Not seeing an easy rule fix.

Yeah, at least some of those fouls are poor defensive discipline (not closing out properly, going straight at a guy instead of to his shooting hand side). Faking a shot to get a guy to jump and then leaning forward into him to draw the foul has been around since the game was invented. The annoying part with Brunson is that he seems to do it on every freaking shot, even when it's not there, misses some shots because of it and wants to be bailed out.
 

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Trae was leaning into an opponent after leaving his feet for a shot…

And Brunson is flopping…
Trae and every other player does that. It is not what he was disciplined for.

It's splitting hairs, but to me foul baiting is different than straight up flopping as I spelled out above.
 

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Trae and every other player does that. It is not what he was disciplined for.

It's splitting hairs, but to me foul baiting is different than straight up flopping as I spelled out above.
Talkin bout 2 different issues with Trae

1 im talkin bout has nothing to do with Trae floppin , it was when he was beyond the arc , and he moved into the defender for a foul while in the air to create contact, that was foul baitin.
 

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Talkin bout 2 different issues with Trae

1 im talkin bout has nothing to do with Trae floppin , it was when he was beyond the arc , and he moved into the defender for a foul while in the air to create contact, that was foul baitin.
And when did the league crack down on him for this? The only thing I could find was when he made a gesture for being called for a flop.

He wasn't the only one who was doing this when they decided to change/enforce the rule for jumping sideways, etc... when shooting 3s
 

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And when did the league crack down on him for this? The only thing I could find was when he made a gesture for being called for a flop.

He wasn't the only one who was doing this when they decided to change/enforce the rule for jumping sideways, etc... when shooting 3s
as far back as 2020 there are many videos of him foul drawin / batin on attempted 3’s
 
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