Ongoing NHL Thread - Part Bedards and Ballards

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Five years this was supposed to be the guy to lead the Leafs to the promised land lmao

 

[puckhead]

 

[puckhead]

 

[puckhead]

Booooooooooo

 

[mattola]

in my house both would be equally full

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Anyone know what the record is for the number of pucks to the face in a season is since the advent of visors?

Because I have a sense the Stars are in the hunt to break it. Mikko just took his turn at the table.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

That’s a tough one.

 

[Judge Fudge]

That’s a tough one.

It isn't.

He had time to readjust.

It's BS

 

[forty_three]

That’s a tough one.

Palmieri initiated contact, quite purposely so. And that contact came in the crease. I know that when it comes to GI, there is no "cut and dried". But that is close. He came out of the corner to bump the goalie.

Part of the issue is "Goalie interference" can be two different situations. A goal is not scored, and someone plows into the goalie, that can be a penalty at the refs discretion. The second - a goal is scored and the refs and a bunch of fucksticks in Toronto that have never played goalie get on a call and flip a coin as to whether or not the goalie was "interfered" with.

All the outrage is missing this gem earlier: Was challenged, found to be no interference and the goal stood. To me, this is more to the first situation. Had that puck not deflected in, that probably could have been two for slashing or goaltender interference, but somehow since the puck went in on a deflection it wasn't the same infraction? They always say on goal calls that the determining factor is if the goalie is able to "play his position" and on this one, by the letter of that definition, Elvis was not "interfered with". He was in position to guard the net, and watch the piss-poor shot go wide. It hit someone and went in from a direction Elvis never tried to make a move to get to, nor would he have been prevented from moving had he desired. THEN he he got squashed and slashed in the face. And you can't blame the D. Gubberson was trying to keep him away from Elvis. He just mosh-swam over him and smacked Elvis in the face.

So going back to the Palmieri one, I wonder if the ref was going to call the contact (situation 1), but since the puck went in, had to switch to coin flip mode (situation 2).



And on top of all that, you have to consider refs do sometimes gift makeup calls. Which could very well have happened here. I'd like to think the refs do review their work between periods with less pressure on them.

 

[dash]

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Palmieri initiated contact, quite purposely so. And that contact came in the crease. I know that when it comes to GI, there is no "cut and dried". But that is close. He came out of the corner to bump the goalie.

Part of the issue is "Goalie interference" can be two different situations. A goal is not scored, and someone plows into the goalie, that can be a penalty at the refs discretion. The second - a goal is scored and the refs and a bunch of fucksticks in Toronto that have never played goalie get on a call and flip a coin as to whether or not the goalie was "interfered" with.

All the outrage is missing this gem earlier: Was challenged, found to be no interference and the goal stood. To me, this is more to the first situation. Had that puck not deflected in, that probably could have been two for slashing or goaltender interference, but somehow since the puck went in on a deflection it wasn't the same infraction? They always say on goal calls that the determining factor is if the goalie is able to "play his position" and on this one, by the letter of that definition, Elvis was not "interfered with". He was in position to guard the net, and watch the piss-poor shot go wide. It hit someone and went in from a direction Elvis never tried to make a move to get to, nor would he have been prevented from moving had he desired. THEN he he got squashed and slashed in the face. And you can't blame the D. Gubberson was trying to keep him away from Elvis. He just mosh-swam over him and smacked Elvis in the face.

So going back to the Palmieri one, I wonder if the ref was going to call the contact (situation 1), but since the puck went in, had to switch to coin flip mode (situation 2).



And on top of all that, you have to consider refs do sometimes gift makeup calls. Which could very well have happened here. I'd like to think the refs do review their work between periods with less pressure on them.

Yes but have you considered that Patrick Roy is mad?

 

[dash]

Yes but have you considered that Patrick Roy is mad?

Isn't that every day that ends in 'y'?

 

[forty_three]

dangit

*crosses a name off the list*

Great signing by Caps. Dollars this summer are going to be nuts.

 

[thedddd]

Penguins and Flyers are trying to out tank each other tonight.

 

[Comeds]

Just got back from getting my wisdom teeth removed. Horrible pain, but at least I set the VCR to record the Habs game, that's sure to make me feel better. No spoilers!

 

[dash]

To me, it's shocking that Torts continues to be employed as a NHL coach. Has anybody else gotten more mileage out of a Stanley Cup championship from over 20 years ago?

 

[mattola]

To me, it's shocking that Torts continues to be employed as a NHL coach. Has anybody else gotten more mileage out of a Stanley Cup championship from over 20 years ago?

Every coach has these thoughts

He's the only I've ever seen that openly expresses them constantly

 

[dash]

Every coach has these thoughts

He's the only I've ever seen that openly expresses them constantly

I mean, I don't have to tell you Matty what a disaster he was with the Canucks. He's likely the single biggest reason Bobby Lou asked for a trade out of Vancity.

 

[mattola]

I mean, I don't have to tell you Matty what a disaster he was with the Canucks. He's likely the single biggest reason Bobby Lou asked for a trade out of Vancity.

The way he treated Lou for that "outdoor" game still blows me away that he even got another job. I felt so bad for Lou and Lack for being put in that position.

 

[dash]

By the way, with all the focus on wild card spot #2 in the West, we should not overlook that the Wild currently hold down WC spot #1, but they have a pretty tough schedule down the stretch and have by no means locked down a playoff spot.