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While I'm not really fan of the IST, it did turn out to be a little more fun than I thought. At least the players seemed to care, so it made for better games.

Don't care for the idea of guaranteeing the winner a playoff spot though. The playoffs are the reward for a season long grind. Not a 2 week run in December.

Yes, but what are the odds of an absolute dogshit team winning the cup though? They'd have to go a worst 6-1 during that stretch against far better teams.

I don't exactly see this years Pistons, Wizards or Spurs winning their group and then three consecutive games. All three of those teams went 0-4 FYI
 
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The heat didnt steal a spot from anyone. That's the difference here. They had the 7th best record in the east and was closer to the 5 seed than 9/10 seed. By opening this door to award a team outside of the top 10 because they had a cool 7 game run in november is absurd. 7 games out of 82 is nothing. Give these losers another draft pick or something

"These losers"

Kinda bitter aren't ya?
 

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Yes, but what are the odds of an absolute dogshit team winning the cup though? They'd have to go a worst 6-1 during that stretch against far better teams.

I don't exactly see this years Pistons, Wizards or Spurs winning their group and then three consecutive games. All three of those teams went 0-4 FYI
What about the raptors?
 
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What about the raptors?

What about them?

They're one half game away from 10th spot in the East right now. Hardly a difference. I don't see many people being that outraged if the Hawks dropped out.

And they went 1-3 in the IST
 

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What about them?

They're one half game away from 10th spot in the East right now. Hardly a difference. I don't see many people being that outraged if the Hawks dropped out.

And they went 1-3 in the IST
Lol imagine being a fan of that team? You finish 40-42 and now you got some 30-52 team stealing your spot because of something that took place in november? You also need to take into consideration the former 7th team now being reduced to 1 home game and the 8th going from 2 cracks to getting to a win or go home

All because of something that happened in the first few weeks of the season....not cool
 

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This Wizards team may be the worst defensive team I’ve ever seen in a league that is often criticized for a lack of defense.
 

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Marcus Morris blows. I can’t believe he’s now getting all of Cov’s minutes. I’m not seeing it.
 
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Lol imagine being a fan of that team? You finish 40-42 and now you got some 30-52 team stealing your spot because of something that took place in november? You also need to take into consideration the former 7th team now being reduced to 1 home game and the 8th going from 2 cracks to getting to a win or go home

All because of something that happened in the first few weeks of the season....not cool

You honestly think a 30-52 team is winning the cup?
 

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You honestly think a 30-52 team is winning the cup?
What other reason would there be in attaching a playoff spot to the winner of the tournament? Every year 39-40 win teams get the play in game. So why guarantee a spot?
 
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What other reason would there be in attaching a playoff spot to the winner of the tournament? Every year 39-40 win teams get the play in game. So why guarantee a spot?

It's the incentive!

Why do countries like San Marino or Gibraltar even bother playing FIFA World Cup qualification matches when we all know there is no way in hell they will ever win it?

And also, it's not a Playoff spot. It's a Play In spot
 

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It's the incentive!
Offer more money. That’s a better incentive. It’s early enough in the year that anybody who isn’t tanking has the belief that they’re a top 10 seed. You aren’t enticing tankers with a playoff spot. They are trying to avoid it.
Why do countries like San Marino or Gibraltar even bother playing FIFA World Cup qualification matches when we all know there is no way in hell they will ever win it?
Because that’s the max they can accomplish. International soccer doesn’t have a draft or a salary cap or other measures to try and create equal levels for competition.
And also, it's not a Playoff spot. It's a Play In spot
Even gayer
 
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Offer more money. That’s a better incentive. It’s early enough in the year that anybody who isn’t tanking has the belief that they’re a top 10 seed. You aren’t enticing tankers with a playoff spot. They are trying to avoid it.

You think teams are tanking after only 20 games?

If teams are losing it's because they are genuinely shit. Nobody is tanking less than a quarter way through the season.
 

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You think teams are tanking after only 20 games?
I think teams are tanking before they tip on the first game. Spurs are tanking. Wizards are tanking.
If teams are losing it's because they are genuinely shit. Nobody is tanking less than a quarter way through the season.
But you’re deflecting from the point. Why does this change the math on a team’s motivation to play? I don’t get it. By your own words, you have all these teams in the first 20 games of the season believing they’re a playoff team anyway. Shit, in the NBA, if you’re close to being in or out, usually you’d rather be out. The 7-8 seed Heat that can go to a Finals is the anomaly and not the rule. Teams in that spot would rather be in the lottery.
 
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I think teams are tanking before they tip on the first game. Spurs are tanking. Wizards are tanking.

The 7-8 seed Heat that can go to a Finals is the anomaly and not the rule. Teams in that spot would rather be in the lottery.

Neither the Wizards or Spurs are tanking. They're genuinely that shit. You honestly think Pop is going to waste his last few years not giving a fuck?

And if teams- WERE tanking, they wouldn't exactly win or even want to win the Cup. Right? Or are you under the impression they're going to tank to get a better draft pick but try to win the IST Cup just for the hell of it?
 

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I have an alternative. First, let’s get rid of this stupidity and announce the Lakers as the in season tourney champions from now on. After that, everyone knows the players really don’t make any extra money for making the playoffs. They are supposed to want to go as far as they can because they like to compete. All of the crazy money now days is taking away from that. Let’s incentivize making the playoffs, and up it every round.
 
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