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Run game is inconsistent bc Henderson has been hurt. Their other RB's are GL slow backs.


Beck must be mediocre too.

Beck 263 attempts 2,462 yards 14 TD's 4 INT's - 9.4 Y/A
Mccord 231 attempts 2,163 14 TD's 3 INT's - 9.4 Y/A - this is with Egbuka missing the last 4 games.
May be wrong but think Hayden is pretty fast...but as you probably know they are trying to save him enough to redshirt him.
 

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Man, I am not saying Ohio St has looked great and that has to do with injuries, OL and QB play. That being said....

Ohio St Poor opponents
23-3 - 1st start for Mccord
35-7
63-10
41-7

162-27 +135

Good-respectable opponents
37-17 vs Maryland - a respectable team with Tua Jr and a great set of WR's
24-10 vs Wisky (could be their worst performance against a good opponent-not weak)
20-12 Penn St (last min TD)
ND

UGA vs poor opponents
48-7
45-3
24-14
49-21
37-20

203-65 +138

UGA good opponents
27-20 (I will put Auburn at good with a 4-4 record)
Florida
Kentucky

Sure Georgia's offense has looked better but they also have a SOS of 100. Ohio St is at 15
and the +138 for UGA (compared to "only" 135 for us) because they have played more bad opponents. Avg. score is roughly 40-7 for OSU and 40-13 for UGA.
 

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May be wrong but think Hayden is pretty fast...but as you probably know they are trying to save him enough to redshirt him.
Sure but he only played one game. I would love to see him be the #2 behind Henderson
 

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Sure but he only played one game. I would love to see him be the #2 behind Henderson
Is he allowed to play 4 and still red shirt or once he hits 4 he cannot red shirt?

I do prefer him to the other backups I think.....though I guess we also need someone for next season.
 

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@DJ

Your Raiders...

Ginger Moe needs to hire the best GM he possibly can and let THAT guy hire the coach.

Do you think he'll handle it that way? Or try to make some "splash" hire again?
 

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The poor opponents on their schedule are YSU, Indiana, W. Kentucky and Purdue and we outscored them 162-27, but sure.
Maryland Wisconsin Indiana all tighter games than the final score would indicate.
 

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while not what we have been used to I'd say McCord better than "just a guy". But even if you find him to be average, the elite talent around him makes the O better than average.
I’ve watched too much ND football during the last 25 years to be unable to recognize “just a guy” at the QB position. He’s just a guy. I’ve said that since he was a HS player at St Joe Prep when I saw him play 5 times. He isn’t special. He rode the coattails of a national program to his rating. He was recruited to land Marvin Harrison Jr. He’s the epitome of just a guy.
 

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Maryland Wisconsin Indiana all tighter games than the final score would indicate.
Maryland and Wisconsin are not poor opponents (especially Wisky on road at night). Indiana on the road in McCord's first start (other than an Akron rent a win home game) and the game was over by the 4th qtr. where we entered with a 20-3 lead and it never got closer.

You made a foolish comment, got caught making a foolish comment, wont own your foolish comment. As per usual.
 

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I’ve watched too much ND football during the last 25 years to be unable to recognize “just a guy” at the QB position. He’s just a guy. I’ve said that since he was a HS player at St Joe Prep when I saw him play 5 times. He isn’t special. He rode the coattails of a national program to his rating. He was recruited to land Marvin Harrison Jr. He’s the epitome of just a guy.
Cool....he also has elite talent around him which makes the O better than average. 30 out of 133 in points (against a fairly tough schedule) is average? 3rd of 14 teams in the BIG.

Just take the L and wait for a possible L by OSU to try this again.
 

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Maryland and Wisconsin are not poor opponents (especially Wisky on road at night). Indiana on the road in McCord's first start (other than an Akron rent a win home game) and the game was over by the 4th qtr. where we entered with a 20-3 lead and it never got closer.

You made a foolish comment, got caught making a foolish comment, wont own your foolish comment. As per usual.

The D has been legit in every game whereas the O shows some consistency issues. All comes down to McCord growing and Henderson staying healthy

obviously Marvin also
 

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Maryland and Wisconsin are not poor opponents
Yeah, we’re done here. They’re not very good at all.
(especially Wisky on road at night). Indiana on the road in McCord's first start (other than an Akron rent a win home game) and the game was over by the 4th qtr. where we entered with a 20-3 lead and it never got closer.

You made a foolish comment, got caught making a foolish comment, wont own your foolish comment. As per usual.
I’ll just hang out and make sure I’m here for the “I told you so” when they lose and their season is over. Football games are won on the field of play. You can’t bargain with football results. You can’t stack “we averaged 41 to 7 vs garbage and UGA was an average of 41-13 vs garbage and think it has any meaning whatsoever.

I’m truly blessed to have as much knowledge of the game of football as I do. It would be awful if I had to sully myself with such nonsense in a football discussion.
 
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@DJ

Your Raiders...

Ginger Moe needs to hire the best GM he possibly can and let THAT guy hire the coach.

Do you think he'll handle it that way? Or try to make some "splash" hire again?

Yeah who knows what’ll happen. Maybe he should hire based on the criteria his dad did drafting players, fastest 40 time gets to be coach.
 

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Yeah, we’re done here. They’re not very good at all.

I’ll just hang out and make sure I’m here for the “I told you so” when they lose and their season is over. Football games are one on the field of play. You can’t bargain with football results. You can’t stack “we averaged 41 to 7 vs garbage and UGA was an average of 41-13 vs garbage and think it has any meaning whatsoever.

I’m truly blessed to have as much knowledge of the game of football as I do. It would be awful if I had to sully myself with such nonsense in a football discussion.
why would you offer an I-told-you-so if we lose when we could certainly lose to UM or someone in the CFP if we get there. None of that makes the offense average or covers up your lie that they haven't looked good against poor opponents. Teams that are a combined 5-5 in the BIG are poor opponents (2 of the losses against OSU)? I guess at least you walked it back some by going from poor to not very good.

what would be great if with that football knowledge of yours you wouldn't make so many foolish comments....even better if when you got caught making an absurd comment you'd simply be an adult and own it. I guess you at least walked one back a little. Baby steps.
 

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why would you offer an I-told-you-so if we lose when we could certainly lose to UM or someone in the CFP if we get there. None of that makes the offense average or covers up your lie that they haven't looked good against poor opponents. Teams that are a combined 5-5 in the BIG are poor opponents (2 of the losses against OSU)? I guess at least you walked it back some by going from poor to not very good.
Yes, I’m saying the Big Ten isn’t very good. I’m saying it’s a conference with only 3 legit teams.
what would be great if with that football knowledge of yours you wouldn't make so many foolish comments....even better if when you got caught making an absurd comment you'd simply be an adult and own it. I guess you at least walked one back a little. Baby steps.
You think they’re foolish. I don’t think they’re foolish at all and I’m the opinion that matters.
McCord - mediocre
OSU run game - inconsistent and mediocre
History of playoffs - the winners out score people. You don’t see low scoring defensive struggles

I’m 3 for 3. Stay tuned.
 

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Yes, I’m saying the Big Ten isn’t very good. I’m saying it’s a conference with only 3 legit teams.

You think they’re foolish. I don’t think they’re foolish at all and I’m the opinion that matters.
McCord - mediocre
OSU run game - inconsistent and mediocre
History of playoffs - the winners out score people. You don’t see low scoring defensive struggles

I’m 3 for 3. Stay tuned.
It's a conference like most of the other conferences. Couple really good teams at the top....4-5 solid teams that can give most teams trouble, especially at home. Then some middling to dreg teams.

I know your comments were foolish and often factually incorrect.........
You said OSU had trouble against their poor opponents - lie 1
Called an O ranked 30 out of 130 teams (or 3rd of `14 in BIG) average - lie 2 (or you are just bad at math)

*Agreed OSU's run game is inconsistent and mediocre without Henderson (as well as often missing his backup and his backup's backup). But suppose Henderson plays?
*As mentioned, McCord might be mediocre....but if many others on O are elite wouldn't that make the O above average at worse?
*Did you really say "the winners outscore people" and plan to take a victory lap should that happen again in the CFP? THAT is next level.
 

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Heard someone on a talk show yesterday saying that if they end up being in position to draft Caleb Williams, he should try to make it a package deal with Lincoln Riley.

Don't know if I'd want to hire a coach with no NFL experience if I'm the Raiders though.
 

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Heard someone on a talk show yesterday saying that if they end up being in position to draft Caleb Williams, he should try to make it a package deal with Lincoln Riley.

Don't know if I'd want to hire a coach with no NFL experience if I'm the Raiders though.
Nope.

Doubt we draft him anyway.

I want to see what AOC can do now that he is the starter.....
 
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