commanders off season thread 2023

[Stymietee]

Wokeism has been described by its critics as the omnipresent use of race—and to a lesser extent, gender—to replace meritocracy and thus ensure equality of result. What follows from implementing that ideology are reparatory actions to reward those of the present by atoning for the injustices done to others in the past.

Some see it as an update of 1960s cultural Marxism fads. Others scoff that it is just a return to 1980s-style political correctness.

regardless of sourcing which both sights I used are in fact right wing the meaning of woke/ wokeness have different meanings depending on POV

regardless of sourcing? I win and now I'm done! This is quickly turning into another reason why I sometimes feel as if I'm losing IQ points and require breaks from this place. So unless you can provide me with direct sources that support your posted definitions, there's really no point to this mindless back and forth.

 

[skinsdad62]

regardless of sourcing? I win and now I'm done! This is quickly turning into another reason why I sometimes feel as if I'm losing IQ points and require breaks from this place. So unless you can provide me with direct sources that support your posted definitions, there's really no point to this mindless back and forth.

I said they were right wing sources just under the place you googled it . The point I am making is the main dictionaries being used to today go with the left wing version of it and they have been doing it for years because if they didn’t then they would have used both definitions.

 

[chillerdab]

Dictionaries being "left wing" is high comedy.

Can you point me in the direction of a right wing dictionary, skinsdad? I'd like a right wing dictionary so that my views can be "fair and balanced" in what they reference.

Thanks in advance.

 

[countryroads316]

Does the contract fit the cap ?

They can just by cutting a player or 2 and some will definitely get cut after the draft

 

[Stymietee]

I said they were right wing sources just under the place you googled it . The point I am making is the main dictionaries being used to today go with the left wing version of it and they have been doing it for years because if they didn’t then they would have used both definitions.

This is insanity, there's one accepted definition for any word universally and they are found in every dictionary no matter what some choose to claim as their political leaning. What dictionaries go with right-wing versions since you're claiming that every dictionary used in the English-speaking world goes left? Without any evidence, what you're claiming as fact...simply... isn't!

You must know that right-wing sources aren't dictionaries or any other researchable source from whence we get definitions of words, correct? BTW; there's no such thing as a "main dictionary, " in fact, because "woke" is an English word, English being the primary language in this country, and the language that we're using we can eliminate most worldwide iterations/definitions of that word.

Which part of there are no second definitions for that word in the English language don't you get?

What you're referring to are political misrepresentations of that word. I understand why you're not accepting any of my challenges and that is because you can't find a non-political definition that doesn't redefine the word in order to fool the people that the former idiot in chief loved... "the poorly educated!" In fact, isn't it true that the slang/ everyday use of that word literally means "not asleep/aware?" You're NOT making a point...you're making a political statement!

 

[skinsdad62]

This is insanity, there's one accepted definition for any word universally and they are found in every dictionary no matter what some choose to claim as their political leaning. What dictionaries go with right-wing versions since you're claiming that every dictionary used in the English-speaking world goes left? Without any evidence, what you're claiming as fact...simply... isn't!

You must know that right-wing sources aren't dictionaries or any other researchable source from whence we get definitions of words, correct? BTW; there's no such thing as a "main dictionary, " in fact, because "woke" is an English word, English being the primary language in this country, and the language that we're using we can eliminate most worldwide iterations/definitions of that word.

Which part of there are no second definitions for that word in the English language don't you get?

What you're referring to are political misrepresentations of that word. I understand why you're not accepting any of my challenges and that is because you can't find a non-political definition that doesn't redefine the word in order to fool the people that the former idiot in chief loved... "the poorly educated!" In fact, isn't it true that the slang/ everyday use of that word literally means "not asleep/aware?" You're NOT making a point...you're making a political statement!

I just showed you there wasn’t and I am as educated as anyone of you.

when you say “woke “ it means one thing to you and another to me and if ANY dictionary doesn’t reflect that , then it isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on

 

[Stymietee]

I just showed you there wasn’t and I am as educated as anyone of you.

when you say “woke “ it means one thing to you and another to me and if ANY dictionary doesn’t reflect that , then it isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on

This is the nice version...

My respect for you will not allow me to respond in a manner that's appropriate to what you've just written. Sometimes it's better to let others deal with their issues in a manner that is appropriate for their time and place in life without further damaging an attenuated relationship. I do not have the educational wherewithal to go post to post with you over alternative facts nor do I wish to engage in political nonsense that has pushed this country ever closer to the brink of destruction and specifically, this board to a point at which well-intended political conversations became non-constructive drivel. Good luck to you!

 

[skinsdad62]

This is the nice version...

My respect for you will not allow me to respond in a manner that's appropriate to what you've just written. Sometimes it's better to let others deal with their issues in a manner that is appropriate for their time and place in life without further damaging an attenuated relationship. I do not have the educational wherewithal to go post to post with you over alternative facts nor do I wish to engage in political nonsense that has pushed this country ever closer to the brink of destruction and specifically, this board to a point at which well-intended political conversations became non-constructive drivel. Good luck to you!

I responded to the IQ thing . I question everything and when one side is only told and is taken as gospel . This board has had numerous debates on a wide range of topics. My view of the definition of woke isn’t mine alone , millions share my POV as they do yours. Sorry it can’t be just one definition as you know many words. In our language have multiple meanings . The word woke is one of those

this should be readily apparent and shouldn’t lead to any hard feelings

I shouldn’t say that people who feel your way have a lower IQ nor should the reverse be true

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

That dictionary went leftist years ago . Ask a person on the right what woke means and it’s completely different

I try to give this place a chance. Really I do. But I don't have the same respect for you that Stymie does so I'll just point out that every time I visit I see more nonsense from you. Now the fucking Dictionary is also part of the big bad Main Stream Media? LOL, you have once again shown how you have been radicalized into believing nonsense. I guess you can ban me again from a thread I had already announced I was leaving. That was effective.

Why can't we just talk football? Why was it necessary for a poster to use the word "woke" which started all of this?

 

[Stymietee]

I responded to the IQ thing . I question everything and when one side is only told and is taken as gospel . This board has had numerous debates on a wide range of topics. My view of the definition of woke isn’t mine alone , millions share my POV as they do yours. Sorry it can’t be just one definition as you know many words. In our language have multiple meanings . The word woke is one of those

this should be readily apparent and shouldn’t lead to any hard feelings

I shouldn’t say that people who feel your way have a lower IQ nor should the reverse be true

Busy day, I'll respond to this later today as time allows.

 

[skinsdad62]

I try to give this place a chance. Really I do. But I don't have the same respect for you that Stymie does so I'll just point out that every time I visit I see more nonsense from you. Now the fucking Dictionary is also part of the big bad Main Stream Media? LOL, you have once again shown how you have been radicalized into believing nonsense. I guess you can ban me again from a thread I had already announced I was leaving. That was effective.

Why can't we just talk football? Why was it necessary for a poster to use the word "woke" which started all of this?

Nothing radical here I showed what I needed to show , now run along

 

[skinsdad62]

Busy day, I'll respond to this later today as time allows.

You can respond if you want to but there is no need to . It’s cool we just will have to agree to disagree

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[Brock2005]

Dictionaries being "left wing" is high comedy.

Can you point me in the direction of a right wing dictionary, skinsdad? I'd like a right wing dictionary so that my views can be "fair and balanced" in what they reference.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Brock2005]

Wokeism is weaponized personal grievances masquerading as a genuine social concern. It’s defined by its fraudulent nature, as being distinct from legitimate social grievances. Wokeism only knows outrage — it knows not empathy for victims.
didn’t take long to find this and it’s far different from the Merrium Webster dictionary

Woke was originally used by BLACK people to warn against traveling to deadly areas of the country, that were unfriendly to us. Before departure, we would tell one another 'stay woke'. This meaning, watch out for the killer racists (notice I didn't say white people). It was then morphed by liberals, into the general awareness of injustice in this country. The right wing, racist, liars on FAUX news then appropriated it into something negative to describe everything liberal they disagree with. How ironic that the very people it was used to describe in the first place are the ones who now think they get to determine it's meaning. Guess what tho? You don't! You didn't create it. You don't get to define it or have 'your' definition of it. Its just another lie, half-truth and spin emanating from the stench-filled, shitpile of lies and fake news the right farts out on a daily basis....

FOX NEWS (Tucker & friends texts) : 'We're lying to you'

RIGHT WING MORONS (skinsdad): 'No, you're not'

 

[chillerdab]

Woke was originally used by BLACK people to warn against traveling to deadly areas of the country, that were unfriendly to us. Before departure, we would tell one another 'stay woke'. This meaning, watch out for the killer racists (notice I didn't say white people). It was then morphed by liberals, into the general awareness of injustice in this country. The right wing, racist, liars on FAUX news then appropriated it into something negative to describe everything liberal they disagree with. How ironic that the very people it was used to describe in the first place are the ones who now think they get to determine it's meaning. Guess what tho? You don't! You didn't create it. You don't get to define it or have 'your' definition of it. Its just another lie, half-truth and spin emanating from the stench-filled, shitpile of lies and fake news the right farts out on a daily basis....

FOX NEWS (Tucker & friends texts) : 'We're lying to you'

RIGHT WING MORONS (skinsdad): 'No, you're not'

An original “cultural appropriation.”

Great post.

 

[chillerdab]

Wokeism has been described by its critics as the omnipresent use of race—and to a lesser extent, gender—to replace meritocracy and thus ensure equality of result. What follows from implementing that ideology are reparatory actions to reward those of the present by atoning for the injustices done to others in the past.

Some see it as an update of 1960s cultural Marxism fads. Others scoff that it is just a return to 1980s-style political correctness.

regardless of sourcing which both sights I used are in fact right wing the meaning of woke/ wokeness have different meanings depending on POV

You know who wrote this horseshit?

Somebody who feels they have something to lose.

 

[chillerdab]

I just showed you there wasn’t and I am as educated as anyone of you.

when you say “woke “ it means one thing to you and another to me and if ANY dictionary doesn’t reflect that , then it isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on

Simply not true.

Just because one group of people is delusional, it doesnt mean they need to be accomodated.

Hell, rightwingers would like nothing better than to legislate people who they think are delusional right out of existence.

You people think “those people” shouldnt exists.

Words mean one thing, and their meaning is not connected to the idiotic ways that stupid people interpret them.

 

[skinsdad62]

Woke was originally used by BLACK people to warn against traveling to deadly areas of the country, that were unfriendly to us. Before departure, we would tell one another 'stay woke'. This meaning, watch out for the killer racists (notice I didn't say white people). It was then morphed by liberals, into the general awareness of injustice in this country. The right wing, racist, liars on FAUX news then appropriated it into something negative to describe everything liberal they disagree with. How ironic that the very people it was used to describe in the first place are the ones who now think they get to determine it's meaning. Guess what tho? You don't! You didn't create it. You don't get to define it or have 'your' definition of it. Its just another lie, half-truth and spin emanating from the stench-filled, shitpile of lies and fake news the right farts out on a daily basis....

FOX NEWS (Tucker & friends texts) : 'We're lying to you'

RIGHT WING MORONS (skinsdad): 'No, you're not'

I can determine a meaning of a word in any way I choose period , especially when the definition is incomplete

i dont care about the Fox News , tucker Carlson liar crap , the same can be said about the LSM

 

[skinsdad62]

You know who wrote this horseshit?

Somebody who feels they have something to lose.

You know who wrote the other definition , a closet Marxist