F Dan Snyder

[chillerdab]

So he only kept these documents for 6 years because he has dementia? Right

He probably kept the docs because he didnt pack them to begin with, and released them back to the proper authorities immediately upon disclosure.

Essentially the opposite of what Drumpf did.

He likely also had political motives for releasing them when he did.

So what?
Do you actually have a point other than “Biden/liberals are hypocrites!?”

 

[Rowdy]

He probably kept the docs because he didnt pack them to begin with, and released them back to the proper authorities immediately upon disclosure.

Essentially the opposite of what Drumpf did.

He likely also had political motives for releasing them when he did.

So what?
Do you actually have a point other than “Biden/liberals are hypocrites!?”

Nope my exact point is liberals are a bunch of fucking hypocrites and the dirtiest players in the game

 

[duke1861]

I applaud you, DGFan, for trying. The repuglickers on here are immune to reason.

Both situations arent good, and the AG should investigate both. Trump whined like the whiny, stupid, classless bitch that he is, and purposefully obfuscated which is what the dumbdumb repugs on here do when confronted with the truth.

It’s just what happens. Idiots doing what idiots do.

Chiller = 2024 nominee for President

The board will campaign for you. We will mirror the Goldy Wilson campaign in "Back to the Future" and drive around with bull horns and posters. Territory assignments:

Sportster = Mid-Atlantic states
Skinsdad = Upper Mid West
DCRising = New England states
Rowdy = SouthEast states
Breed = Upper Western states
Duke = Mid-West
Dean = Texas
Kbso = California
JY19 = SouthWest states
Shark = South
Brock = Alaska and Hawaii
Gkekoa = Rust Belt states
Darrell Green Fan = Coastal states

Hop to it lads...we have a country to save.

Chiller's campaign slogan: "Vote for Chiller...if you don't...you are an idiot"
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[Darrell Green Fan]

Nope . You’re not.

Let's review:

I acknowledged what Biden did was very serious and warrants an investigation. Did any Trump guys say that about Mar-A-Lago?

I also said I have no problem with Biden being called a dimwit.

Now where have I not been objective again? I was not the one to misunderstand a point, that would be you with regards to Biden being forthcoming to the National Archives. The only thing you appear to have is that I did not denounce them for not releasing the info before the mid-terms. Again as I have clearly said that's just politics and both sides are equally guilty of this sort of behavior so I will never denounce them for that. .

 

[Rowdy]

Let's review:

I acknowledged what Biden did was very serious and warrants an investigation. Did any Trump guys say that about Mar-A-Lago?

I also said I have no problem with Biden being called a dimwit.

Now where have I not been objective again? I was not the one to misunderstand a point, that would be you with regards to Biden being forthcoming to the National Archives. The only thing you appear to have is that I did not denounce them for not releasing the info before the mid-terms. Again as I have clearly said that's just politics and both sides are equally guilty of this sort of behavior so I will never denounce them for that. .

Should there be a photo op raid?

 

[j_y19]

I have no problem seeing Biden being called a dimwit. He has given them plenty of opportunities, this being the latest example.

Can we please stop with the name calling?

Fine by me.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Nope my exact point is liberals are a bunch of fucking hypocrites and the dirtiest players in the game

We are trying to have an intelligent debate here. All you have offered is 1-2 sentence shots. Are you ever gong to address how the situations are different as I have carefully explained? Because right now you appear to be only capable of posting insults and it's not really helping your argument.

 

[j_y19]

Let's review:

I acknowledged what Biden did was very serious and warrants an investigation. Did any Trump guys say that about Mar-A-Lago?

I also said I have no problem with Biden being called a dimwit.

Now where have I not been objective again? I was not the one to misunderstand a point, that would be you with regards to Biden being forthcoming to the National Archives. The only thing you appear to have is that I did not denounce them for not releasing the info before the mid-terms. Again as I have clearly said that's just politics and both sides are equally guilty of this sort of behavior so I will never denounce them for that. .

So he only kept these documents for 6 years because he has dementia? Riiiight

I’m sure he had no idea he had them. I don’t fault him for that per se. but our process for accessing TS documents needs to be revampe.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I’m sure he had no idea he had them. I don’t fault him for that per se. but our process for accessing TS documents needs to be revampe.

While I agree with you on this I'm not sure why I was quoted. My post had to do with how I'm being fair and objective, still waiting on your response to that post.

 

[Rowdy]

We are trying to have an intelligent debate here. All you have offered is 1-2 sentence shots. Are you ever gong to address how the situations are different as I have carefully explained? Because right now you appear to be only capable of posting insults and it's not really helping your argument.

Seems like I’m getting under your skin and you’re trying to throw the insults. I’m a little more busy to research and debate. I just like fuck with libs

 

[j_y19]

While I agree with you on this I'm not sure why I was quoted. My post had to do with how I'm being fair and objective, still waiting on your response to that post.

Me neither! I also believe that trump probably didn’t know he had them. At first. Once he found out, he should have relinquished them immediately.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

@Rowdy typing your response in the quoted post and not in the correct field is not exactly helping you to become someone we should take seriously. If you have some intelligent content I'm all ears. But so far you have offered nothing.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Me neither! I also believe that trump probably didn’t know he had them. At first. Once he found out, he should have relinquished them immediately.

Of course he should have. That should go unsaid but as we see the Trump folks just can't say it. Now we get to Biden who did exactly what he was supposed to do. And again he never tried to hide them from the Feds, he sure didn't lie about them

These are 2 totally different situations, that should be obvious. Do you not agree?

 

[j_y19]

Of course he should have. That should go unsaid but as we see the Trump folks just can't say it. Now we get to Biden who did exactly what he was supposed to do. And again he never tried to hide them from the Feds, he sure didn't lie about them

These are 2 totally different situations, that should be obvious. Do you not agree?

I agree that they are different. Both are, however, deceptive. A lie is a lie. One to protect his ass and one to affect an election. Neither will lead to anything.

 

[skinsdad62]

Fair enough, it's possible that Trump did not know the documents were being packed. But If he wasn't aware before he surely was after the first request right? Yet he not only did not return them as requested (and required by law) for over a year he lied about them through his lawyer

As for your first point as I clearly said Biden notified the National Archives as soon as they were discovered. He was forthcoming with the news to the authorities immediately as he was required to do. Again as I clearly stated they delayed the release of this news because it came right before the mid-terms. That's just politics, the point remains when Biden learned of the findings they immediately notified the correct people. Trump did nothing like this, he actively tried to conceal possession and that's a huge difference.

People are not often charged for making a mistake. Intent matters with regard to the law. And Trump was a private citizen and intended to keep docs he was not legally allowed to keep.

you are wrong . trump as president can declassify whatever he wants . this is a dispute between trump and the national archives and a lame attempt by the left to get Trump charged with and convicted of a felony so he cant run for public office

Biden wasnt forthcoming with the american people , they sat on it and covered it up till after the election and of course that biden interview was BS as well .

as for the law , i know the press likes to say intent matters , perhaps with being charged with treason but its unlawful not to safeguard classified documents or lose control of them .

any person like me sportster , GK all know this , if we took classified documents out of our offices , home and told CID , "its ok they are stored in my damn garage , we would be taken down to the MP station , told to lawyer up and be charged and convicted in court

there was no reason to send the FBI to trumps home . a dispute between the national archives and trump can be settled in court

if you want trump to lose the election beat him in the arena of ideas like you supposedly did at the ballot box

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I agree that they are different. Both are, however, deceptive. A lie is a lie. One to protect his ass and one to affect an election. Neither will lead to anything.

One is far more concerning and far more illegal. As I said they rarely if ever indict people for being careless with secret documents. In all cases I have read there has to be intent for the Feds to pursue an indictment.

Sure it's possible that Trump didn't know the had them. I am not sure of that, why would he go to such great lengths to keep them if he didn't know he had them in the first place? Are you thinking the rumor of Trump showing off documents to others is out of character for him? But there was clear intent on Trump's part not only to keep the docs after they were requested back but also actively trying to deceive the DOJ about their return. Trump committed obstruction, Biden did not. Huge difference.

And then we get into the classifications and just what was in those documents. It goes without saying that TS/SCI are much more dangerous documents to have floating around than the docs Biden had.

 

[Rowdy]

@Rowdy typing your response in the quoted post and not in the correct field is not exactly helping you to become someone we should take seriously. If you have some intelligent content I'm all ears. But so far you have offered nothing.

You suck at this message board thing man. You’re thin skinned

 

[Rowdy]

One is far more concerning and far more illegal. As I said they rarely if ever indict people for being careless with secret documents. In all cases I have read there has to be intent for the Feds to pursue an indictment.

Sure it's possible that Trump didn't know the had them. I am not sure of that, why would he go to such great lengths to keep them if he didn't know he had them in the first place? Are you thinking the rumor of Trump showing off documents to others is out of character for him? But there was clear intent on Trump's part not only to keep the docs after they were requested back but also actively trying to deceive the DOJ about their return. Trump committed obstruction, Biden did not. Huge difference.

And then we get into the classifications and just what was in those documents. It goes without saying that TS/SCI are much more dangerous documents to have floating around than the docs Biden had. Se

Just because trumps got documents on hunter and dementia joe, it’ll be alright will survive as a nation

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

you are wrong . trump as president can declassify whatever he wants . this is a dispute between trump and the national archives and a lame attempt by the left to get Trump charged with and convicted of a felony so he cant run for public office

Biden wasnt forthcoming with the american people , they sat on it and covered it up till after the election and of course that biden interview was BS as well .

as for the law , i know the press likes to say intent matters , perhaps with being charged with treason but its unlawful not to safeguard classified documents or lose control of them .

any person like me sportster , GK all know this , if we took classified documents out of our offices , home and told CID , "its ok they are stored in my damn garage , we would be taken down to the MP station , told to lawyer up and be charged and convicted in court

there was no reason to send the FBI to trumps home . a dispute between the national archives and trump can be settled in court

if you want trump to lose the election beat him in the arena of ideas like you supposedly did at the ballot box

Too bad you just showed up, I have to leave but I would have enjoyed this.


I will say this one more time, and once again you will ignore it which only shows us what you are all about. Now read slowly this time:

Even if Trump declassified the documents, and there is no evidence of this other than his word after he was caught, that does not change the content. These were some of our most guarded secrets and they sat in a golf resort and that is a huge issue.

And then we have the case of Trump lying to authorities when they were simply dong their job and trying to get FORMER President Trump to return the documents he was no longer allowed by law to possess as a private citizen. That's obstruction an Biden never did anything like that.

Trump forced them to do this raid because again they asked him to comply for over a year. They did not have the time, or should not have had to wait, for the courts to act. They needed them back. Guess you are just fine with that behavior, but only because it's Donald Trump. Had Biden refused to turn over his documents you would be screaming about it nonstop.

And I'm the only who is being called out for not being objective. LOL.

 

[j_y19]

One is far more concerning and far more illegal. As I said they rarely if ever indict people for being careless with secret documents. In all cases I have read there has to be intent for the Feds to pursue an indictment.

Sure it's possible that Trump didn't know the had them. I am not sure of that, why would he go to such great lengths to keep them if he didn't know he had them in the first place? Are you thinking the rumor of Trump showing off documents to others is out of character for him? But there was clear intent on Trump's part not only to keep the docs after they were requested back but also actively trying to deceive the DOJ about their return. Trump committed obstruction, Biden did not. Huge difference.

And then we get into the classifications and just what was in those documents. It goes without saying that TS/SCI are much more dangerous documents to have floating around than the docs Biden had. Se

You mean deceiving the American people in an effort to sway an election is not concerning to you?