NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[fightinfunbags]

Payton just retired

This is a Phil Jackson “retirement” in my opinion. He comes out of retirement to coach another NFL team next year. My call is when McCarthy fails again, Payton will be the next head coach of the Cowboys.

 

[Heatles84]

You do you.

But don’t spread lies.

I have and will continue to do so.

Are you going to also mention spreading lies on the other side of the aisle?

 

[tlance]

So, when we were told that it was just a 2 week lockdown to "flatten the curve"...was that a lie or misinformation?
When we were told that the vaccine was 1 shot and would keep people from spreading or catching the virus...was that a lie or misinformation?
When the vaccine became 2 shots, then 2 shots and a booster and now we're told yearly shots and maybe every 6 months...are those lies or misinformation?
When Joe Biden said that the vaccines stop the transmission of Covid...was that a lie or misinformation?
When Joe Biden said that he would end Covid...was it a lie or misinformation?
Why were doctors told that they couldn't use certain treatments despite having had success using them?
Why has the Biden Administration suddenly pulled emergency use authorization for monoclonal antibody treatments (which appear to work for some folks) despite not having any clinical data to support the decision?

Additionally, people shouldn't need an "excuse" to not get vaxxed. The fact that they don't want to is all that should ever be necessary as last I checked, the United States has not become a fascist country or dictatorship just yet.

LOL.

You think that is the same?

Your examples are examples of people expressing optimism (perhaps unrealistic) of the future.

Stockton is talking about stuff that already happened, and it clearly didn’t.

 

[thunderc]

This is why you're my homie.

But I'm supposed to trust @tlance that all information on Covid that's relayed to me by the FDA, CDC and Federal Government is accurate and in my overall best interest.

You are welcome to see what the experts in other countries think as well you know. I crack up at people that act like this is a US Govt conspiracy of some sort as if it’s only happening here.

 

[Heatles84]

This is a Phil Jackson “retirement” in my opinion. He comes out of retirement to coach another NFL team next year. My call is when McCarthy fails again, Payton will be the next head coach of the Cowboys.

Dunno man. I really think the Cowboys are going to have to make some tough decisions. I mean, yeah, if you can get the Cowboys to a SB with all of the road blocks that are coming up on the team, it definitely solidifies you as a coach (granted Payton gave the Saints one hell of a run). But having to deal with Jerry Jones....

 

[tlance]

I have and will continue to do so.

Are you going to also mention spreading lies on the other side of the aisle?

I have done my research on COVID and I never once believed any of those things TF12 posted to be true.

Not 1.

They were hopes and dreams, not scientific fact.

We actually have some factual data that says vaccine + booster reduces spread and limits effects.

 

[trojanfan12]

LOL.

You think that is the same?

Your examples are examples of people expressing optimism (perhaps unrealistic) of the future.

Stockton is talking about stuff that already happened, and it clearly didn’t.

Oh, so even though every single one of them has been untrue...they don't count because it fuits your narrative.

You and John Stockton...2 sides of the same coin.

 

[Heatles84]

You are welcome to see what the experts in other countries think as well you know. I crack up at people that act like this is a US Govt conspiracy of some sort as if it’s only happening here.

Care to talk about the multitude of countries that have lifted mandates on anything Covid? The Biden Administration literally just halted monoclonal antibodies citing an independent study done by a rival to the company, and pushed it through that halted treatments in Florida; treatments that helping out vaccinated people as well. The move makes absolutely zero sense and you can't site because it doesn't help against Omicron, because Pfizer's own CEO literally said the vaccine does nothing against that variant as well, yet, last I checked the vaccine still is something you can take.

 

[Heatles84]

I have done my research on COVID and I never once believed any of those things TF12 posted to be true.

Not 1.

They were hopes and dreams, not scientific fact.

We actually have some factual data that says vaccine + booster reduces spread and limits effects.

Okay, dude. Just say you're a hypocrite and move on.

 

[Heatles84]

Going to get on John Stockton for pushing misinformation. But the POTUS saying you absolutely won't get Covid if you get vaccinated is simply hopes and dreams is the funniest shit I've heard in a minute.

 

[trojanfan12]

Care to talk about the multitude of countries that have lifted mandates on anything Covid? The Biden Administration literally just halted monoclonal antibodies citing an independent study done by a rival to the company, and pushed it through that halted treatments in Florida; treatments that helping out vaccinated people as well. The move makes absolutely zero sense and you can't site because it doesn't help against Omicron, because Pfizer's own CEO literally said the vaccine does nothing against that variant as well, yet, last I checked the vaccine still is something you can take.

Has there ever been a time in this countries history where politicians did not allow doctors to use every weapon in their arsenal to treat their patients despite evidence of those treatments actually working? I can't think of another one prior to this.

 

[trojanfan12]

Going to get on John Stockton for pushing misinformation. But the POTUS saying you absolutely won't get Covid if you get vaccinated is simply hopes and dreams is the funniest shit I've heard in a minute.

Not to mention how the same people giving Biden a pass, continue to dunk on Trump for saying it would go away.

 

[Heatles84]

Has there ever been a time in this countries history where politicians did not allow doctors to use every weapon in their arsenal to treat their patients despite evidence of those treatments actually working? I can't think of another one prior to this.

But it's all normal. Just move along.

Shit ended for me when I kept seeing politicians that tell you to go through all of these mandates, yet they're out partying around. Then afterwards, push their own agenda continuously.

Funny story - my manager is based out in the UK and mentioned Boris Johnson and that they're now free simply because he got caught having a Bday party while thanking others for giving up theirs to "slow the spread".

 

[Heatles84]

Not to mention how the same people giving Biden a pass, continue to dunk on Trump for saying it would go away.

It's the beauty about being independent. I can give an honest evaluation on both.

 

[trojanfan12]

It's the beauty about being independent. I can give an honest evaluation on both.

Yep, same here.

 

[tlance]

Oh, so even though every single one of them has been untrue...they don't count because it fuits your narrative.

You and John Stockton...2 sides of the same coin.

No, totally different talking abo it the future.

It is like me saying the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl.

Am I lying if they don’t?

No, I am just wrong about something that hasn’t happened yet.

Being wrong about something that has happened, and can easily be disproven, that is either negligent, intentional or ignorant.

And that is worse.

 

[Black Adam]

Care to talk about the multitude of countries that have lifted mandates on anything Covid? The Biden Administration literally just halted monoclonal antibodies citing an independent study done by a rival to the company, and pushed it through that halted treatments in Florida; treatments that helping out vaccinated people as well. The move makes absolutely zero sense and you can't site because it doesn't help against Omicron, because Pfizer's own CEO literally said the vaccine does nothing against that variant as well, yet, last I checked the vaccine still is something you can take.

POLITIIIIIICCCCSSSSS....!!!!

 

[tlance]

Okay, dude. Just say you're a hypocrite and move on.

Congrats on completely moving the goalposts.

You and TF12 are making this political, not me.

I am just criticizing a blatant lie.

 

[trojanfan12]

No, totally different talking abo it the future.

It is like me saying the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl.

Am I lying if they don’t?

No, I am just wrong about something that hasn’t happened yet.

Being wrong about something that has happened, and can easily be disproven, that is either negligent, intentional or ignorant.

And that is worse.

lol

So now you're trying to equate a sports prediction to this. And not all of those were "optimistic". Biden said his shit recently, after we all already knew that Covid was not going away.

Like @Heatles84 said...just admit you're a hypocrite on this and move on.

 

[Black Adam]

No, totally different talking abo it the future.

It is like me saying the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl.

Am I lying if they don’t?

No, I am just wrong about something that hasn’t happened yet.

Being wrong about something that has happened, and can easily be disproven, that is either negligent, intentional or ignorant.

And that is worse.

I'll say it...

*Ahem*" the Chiefs will win the Superbowl"...



















...I hope...