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Apparently there are a bunch of ethical super hero's on this thread who have never said a bad thing in their lives. Holy shit.
 

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Apparently there are a bunch of ethical super hero's on this thread who have never said a bad thing in their lives. Holy shit.

Everyone likely has. Putting them in writing is inadvisable, and doing so via the internet is even worse. You can't expect to get away with comments like that that become public in today's day and age, especially if you're a public figure. Everyone has the right to their opinion and can say whatever they want, but your employer doesn't have to keep you around if you do.
 

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Apparently there are a bunch of ethical super hero's on this thread who have never said a bad thing in their lives. Holy shit.
Who ever said that? LOL You are the one harping on that there is "no proof" after Gruden resigns is plain stupid. Why would he resign if he has nothing to hide. Put two and two together, dumb shit.

See there, I just called you a dumbshit and I have done plenty of dumb shit in my life but I am also not the head coach of a NFL team.
 

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Everyone likely has. Putting them in writing is inadvisable, and doing so via the internet is even worse. You can't expect to get away with comments like that that become public in today's day and age, especially if you're a public figure. Everyone has the right to their opinion and can say whatever they want, but your employer doesn't have to keep you around if you do.
I fully agree. I'm not sold Gruden deserved to lose his job, but the things tolerated in the past are no longer done. You are responsible for your actions right, wrong, or indifferent.

The Raiders had a choice to make and made it.
 

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I bet he gets a ton of pussy with that haircut

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He puts his wallet on his head. Best haircut of all...

The ironic part is that he looks much more like Chucky than Gruden does...
 

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Really makes you wonder who in this thread is saddened that we can no longer hang black people and are trying to treat gay people as equals given how upset they are that Gruden got what he deserved.
 

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Apparently there are a bunch of ethical super hero's on this thread who have never said a bad thing in their lives. Holy shit.
I lost count of my bad decisions a long time ago and yeah, I have said amd continue to say and do dumb shit. I'm not going to judge Gruden on what these emails said. But he's still a dumbass for saying it and a crappy NFL coach and he's obnoxious as hell to listen to on TV so I'm glad he will be gone from football.
 

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The NFL is so woke it hires rap artists for half time performances of big games who's songs have worse lyrics than what Gruden ever said.
 

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If it was just the one email with the lips he might have survived it. But when it became clear that such remarks were not unusual for Gruden, and that he had said a lot of politically incorrect things about, well...almost everyone, from women to gays to blacks, he was toast.

No, I am not perfect either, and I am sure that if someone subpoenaed decades of emails from me they might find some stuff that could be used against me. But I am also not a public figure. Gruden maybe let his guard down because he was working for MNF at the time and out of coaching, but you gotta know not to put some of this shit in writing if you are a high profile person.

Again, my criticism of this situation is more about...what else does the NFL have? They clearly have a trove of very damaging emails involving the WFT. Why are they only releasing the stuff that tars Gruden? That smells like a cover up to me.
 

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So you've seen the e-mails? Can you share please?

I didn't see Bernie Madoff's paper trail either but I have a good idea what happened. And so do you.

Again if this story was false Gruden would not have resigned, he would have fought to save his career. Stop being stupid.
 
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Again, my criticism of this situation is more about...what else does the NFL have? They clearly have a trove of very damaging emails involving the WFT. Why are they only releasing the stuff that tars Gruden? That smells like a cover up to me.
This is my beef too. The other owners need to quit being so gutless and kick Snider out of the "good old boy" club. This shit flows down from the top, imo.
 

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My guess as to why they won't release all the emails is this: they want to "protect the shield." Jon Gruden is expendable. A trove of emails showing that an NFL team was possibly corrupt to its core might raise deeper questions about the league and its integrity.
 

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This is my beef too. The other owners need to quit being so gutless and kick Snider out of the "good old boy" club. This shit flows down from the top, imo.
How many other owners are in the same boat as Snyder? Is Snyder threatening to out them and possibly Goodell too, if they go full board after them.

I really think the reason the emails were leaked is because of the Goodell comments. If Gruden never called Goodell a fag, this is all still in the vault.
 

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you are as long as you don't give a shit.
What do you mean? The people that speak their mind dont give a shit and they are the ones all you Karens attack. I am sure you all feel like you should have your right to privacy, but a private email can cost you a 10 million a year job?
 

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My guess as to why they won't release all the emails is this: they want to "protect the shield." Jon Gruden is expendable. A trove of emails showing that an NFL team was possibly corrupt to its core might raise deeper questions about the league and its integrity.
These were from 10 and 11 years ago when he was a commentator, not a coach. He was just a private citizen commenting to some would be buddy. People have the right to be gay, trans, queer, whatever they want, but just "normal" god fearing human beings do not have any rights.

that is really what it boils down to, if you are with the crowd, its ok to speak your mind, spit at cops, throw shit at cops, but when you call them you expect them to respond.

Thats how fucked up us "normal" people see this as being.
 
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