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Taylor Heinicke is back.

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he is an EFRA . the skins need only offer him the league min , and he is ours . we dont have to refuse anything because a team could only trade for him . in essence only we can bid on him and if we say hit the road allen then he is a total FA with us not having any rights to him whatsoever
This doesn't sound right. If it is, we basically have him under contract even though he doesn't have an executed deal. His only other option is to sit out. I thought it was like Sportster stated. that if we offer him the minimum and someone offers him more, we get the right of first refusal to meet the higher deal or let him walk.
 

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This doesn't sound right. If it is, we basically have him under contract even though he doesn't have an executed deal. His only other option is to sit out. I thought it was like Sportster stated. that if we offer him the minimum and someone offers him more, we get the right of first refusal to meet the higher deal or let him walk.
Well, I just researched it and you are right. as an ERFA, he is ours at the league minimum, if we want him. No one else can offer him anything unless we don't extend him an offer by March 18th
 

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Well, I just researched it and you are right. as an ERFA, he is ours at the league minimum, if we want him. No one else can offer him anything unless we don't extend him an offer by March 18th
Well, I correct myself again. Allen is not an EFRA, but an RFA. He has accrued 3 years of service 2 with Carolina and one with us. 3 years is the minimum to be a RFA. Less than 3 years and you are still an EFRA.
 

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This doesn't sound right. If it is, we basically have him under contract even though he doesn't have an executed deal. His only other option is to sit out. I thought it was like Sportster stated. that if we offer him the minimum and someone offers him more, we get the right of first refusal to meet the higher deal or let him walk.
it might be in the FA thread but he is a EFRA . we have the rights to him and need offer him only the NFL min . an RFA is a FA who has to be tendered a draft pick , 1st 2nd etc and a team signing him would owe us the tender . right of first refusal comes with the RFA not the ERFA . allen is an exclusive rights free agent do to his time of service .
 

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Exclusive rights free agent (ERFA): Any player with fewer than three accrued seasons and an expired contract. If his original team offers him a one-year contract at the league minimum (based on his credited seasons), the player cannot negotiate with other teams.

The statistic shows the minimum player salary in the National Football League from 2011 to 2020. The minimum salary for players in the NFL amounted to 610 thousand U.S. dollars in the 2020 season.
we acquired allen in a trade and hence his contract


In the National Football League, a restricted free agent is one with three or fewer accrued seasons (six or more regular season games with a team)[1] of service, who has received a "qualifying" offer (a salary level predetermined by the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement between the league and its players, known as a "tender") from his current club. He can negotiate with any club through a certain date. If the restricted free agent accepts an offer sheet from a new club, his old club has "right of first refusal," a five-day period in which it may match the offer and retain him, or choose not to match the offer, in which case it may receive one or more draft picks for the upcoming draft from the player's new club. If an offer sheet is not executed, the player's rights revert to his old club the day after negotiations must end.
Tender amountCompensation required
$4.149 millionFirst-round
$2.914 millionSecond-round
$1.907 millionDetermined by RFA's original draft status
Each player that signs a tender receives a non-guaranteed one-year salary that corresponds to the tender level. Teams which choose not to match an offer on a player with a low tender receive a draft pick corresponding to the round in which the player was originally drafted (except that the highest pick that can be surrendered for such a tender is a second-round pick). For example, a player who was originally drafted in the sixth round of the NFL Draft would force the team signing him to give his former team a sixth-round pick in the upcoming draft as compensation for his service. No compensation is required for an undrafted player on the lowest tender amount, so teams with valued undrafted RFAs are taking a risk by offering such tenders. (The top tender prior to 2011 required first- and third-round picks as compensation.)

that is the rules
 

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Exclusive rights free agent (ERFA): Any player with fewer than three accrued seasons and an expired contract. If his original team offers him a one-year contract at the league minimum (based on his credited seasons), the player cannot negotiate with other teams.

The statistic shows the minimum player salary in the National Football League from 2011 to 2020. The minimum salary for players in the NFL amounted to 610 thousand U.S. dollars in the 2020 season.
we acquired allen in a trade and hence his contract


In the National Football League, a restricted free agent is one with three or fewer accrued seasons (six or more regular season games with a team)[1] of service, who has received a "qualifying" offer (a salary level predetermined by the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement between the league and its players, known as a "tender") from his current club. He can negotiate with any club through a certain date. If the restricted free agent accepts an offer sheet from a new club, his old club has "right of first refusal," a five-day period in which it may match the offer and retain him, or choose not to match the offer, in which case it may receive one or more draft picks for the upcoming draft from the player's new club. If an offer sheet is not executed, the player's rights revert to his old club the day after negotiations must end.
Tender amountCompensation required
$4.149 millionFirst-round
$2.914 millionSecond-round
$1.907 millionDetermined by RFA's original draft status
Each player that signs a tender receives a non-guaranteed one-year salary that corresponds to the tender level. Teams which choose not to match an offer on a player with a low tender receive a draft pick corresponding to the round in which the player was originally drafted (except that the highest pick that can be surrendered for such a tender is a second-round pick). For example, a player who was originally drafted in the sixth round of the NFL Draft would force the team signing him to give his former team a sixth-round pick in the upcoming draft as compensation for his service. No compensation is required for an undrafted player on the lowest tender amount, so teams with valued undrafted RFAs are taking a risk by offering such tenders. (The top tender prior to 2011 required first- and third-round picks as compensation.)

that is the rules
I saw that. But he has 3 years accrued experience, making him and RFA.
 

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i will tell you this , for 5 qrtrs TH played qb the way we needed it played . if we get that production from anyone long term we have our qb . Not saying TH is the guy
Remember the times when we had a QB with a far different skillset than his backup?

I now believe that Heinicke is the backup going into camp. Now it becomes interesting to see if Washington goes with that old familiar odd coupling or find another QB who's better and possesses the same dynamic skillset. Imagine that, a starting QB who's very, very, good backed up with a player with very similar dynamic skills.
 

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Remember the times when we had a QB with a far different skillset than his backup?

I now believe that Heinicke is the backup going into camp. Now it becomes interesting to see if Washington goes with that old familiar odd coupling or find another QB who's better and possesses the same dynamic skillset. Imagine that, a starting QB who's very, very, good backed up with a player with very similar dynamic skills.
like say marriotta
 

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I saw that. But he has 3 years accrued experience, making him and RFA.
be that as it may he is listed as a EFRA
 

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like say marriotta
Kinda like him just not with a skillset that's more closely compared to Heinicke than what a real upgrade would look like. I do have to admit, out of all of the second tier choices put out, he's the best of 'em.
 

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ok, im excited too about him but I dont expect the next Steve Young either.
Of course not but go back and watch the game. TH brings more to the table than any QB we had start this year. I'm absolutely comfortable with TH and a plethora of weapons around him and a solid defense. Would I love a Watson, Wilson or Carr? Yes but not practical and not realistic with the amount of capital you have to exhaust. There will be plenty of cap space and draft picks to surround TH with another WR2, TE and slot competition via the draft. The draft will likely result in a LB or 2 and some other useful picks.
 

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Of course not but go back and watch the game. TH brings more to the table than any QB we had start this year. I'm absolutely comfortable with TH and a plethora of weapons around him and a solid defense. Would I love a Watson, Wilson or Carr? Yes but not practical and not realistic with the amount of capital you have to exhaust. There will be plenty of cap space and draft picks to surround TH with another WR2, TE and slot competition via the draft. The draft will likely result in a LB or 2 and some other useful picks.
most people dont feel the way you do . but in the end you are correct

right now i have LB rated as a higher need then wr by the slimmest of margins
 

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Interesting. So his first year with the panthers he must not have been on the roster the entire season.
thats what i am guessing
 

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At some point they are gonna have to give Heinicke some action in a live game. He was just too good against Tampa to never revisit that and find out if it was a fluke.

The minute QBX struggles, the fan base is gonna be screaming for Heinicke.

This team really needs a preseason, so the QB situation can get settled on the field of play, not at practice behind closed doors like last year.
 
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