does anyone know the ncaa trick play rule

[whyoh]

i know there's some BS rule out there that few refs, if any, use

 

[tech_iceman]

:confused2:

 

[whyoh]

i'm probably crazy


i coulda sworn at one point on here that someone quoted some really strangely written rule that basically said that if you try and "deceive" the other team that that isn't a legal play




then again i was probably drunk when i read it so who knows

 

[boomtown]

i'm probably crazy


i coulda sworn at one point on here that someone quoted some really strangely written rule that basically said that if you try and "deceive" the other team that that isn't a legal play




then again i was probably drunk when i read it so who knows

if the qb's nose becomes long enough to hit the dline, its a penalty

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

i'm probably crazy


i coulda sworn at one point on here that someone quoted some really strangely written rule that basically said that if you try and "deceive" the other team that that isn't a legal play




then again i was probably drunk when i read it so who knows

It's true. My Uncle (a high school football coach) and I had this conversation not to long ago.

 

[potzer25]

Couple things I can think of:
You can't change numbers or obstruct them to confuse the other team...
Illegal equipment: Any equipment that could confuse or deceive an opponent (I think USCe got his with this, right? Had to change shirts...)

Or this one:

Unfair Tactics—ARTICLE 2
Approved Ruling 9-2-2
I. After the ball is ready for play, Team A goes into a formation with two
players split wide on both sides of the snapper and two other Team A
linemen adjacent to the snapper. No more than four players are legally
in the backfield. Team A sends in two substitutes, who take positions
on the line of scrimmage adjacent to the two split offensive linemen on
the opposite side of the field of play from their team bench. This leaves
Team A with nine players on the line of scrimmage and four backfield
players all legally in position. Immediately and before the snap, two
Team A linemen nearest their team’s bench leave the field of play and
are off at the snap. Seven players are on the line of scrimmage, five of
whom are Team A linemen numbered 50 to 79. RULING: Penalty—15
yards from the previous spot. This is a simulated replacement of a player
to confuse the opponents

II. On fourth down at Team B’s 12-yard line, A1 enters the field of play
with a kicking shoe while his 11 teammates are in the huddle. A1 kneels
and measures the distance from the neutral zone to the kicking spot.
While his teammates are leaving the huddle, A1 leaves the field of play
with the shoe. Team A quickly runs a play from scrimmage. RULING:
Team A foul. Penalty—15 yards from the previous spot. There shall be
no simulated replacement of a player to confuse the opponents, and a
player who communicates must remain in the game for one down.

III. A1 leaves the field of play during a down. Team A huddles with 10
players. Substitute A12 enters, and A2 simulates leaving the field but
sets near the sideline for a “hide-out’’ pass. RULING: Penalty—15
yards from the previous spot. This is a simulated replacement of a player
to confuse opponents.

IV. While a team is legally set to attempt a field goal, the potential holder for
the kick goes toward his team area asking for a shoe. A shoe is thrown
on the field and the player, in motion toward his team area, turns toward
the goal line. The ball is snapped to the player in the kicking position,
who throws a pass to the player who had turned up field after asking for
a shoe. RULING: Penalty—15 yards from the previous spot.

V. Team A is lined up in scrimmage kick formation and has been set for
one second. One of the offensive backs shouts to and motions to A40,
the blocker on the right wing, to get off the field. At the snap, A40 is in
legal motion toward his sideline. A40 turns downfield and becomes a
pass receiver. RULING: Penalty—15 yards from the previous spot. This
is a tactic associated with the substitution process to deceive opponents.

 

[chucksker]

if im not mistaken there is an "attempting to deceive" 15 yard penalty and loss of down

 

[chucksker]

 

[NUance]

A Planned Loose Ball Play “Fumblerooski”, No Longer Legal (7-2-8)
A team A linesman may no longer advance a planned loose ball in the vicinity of the snapper. In the past the play was legal if the referee had been notified in advance about the play. The foul occurs when the linesman picks up the ball. The 5-yard penalty is for illegal formation and is enforced from the spot of the foul (where the linesman picks up the ball). The restriction on planned loose ball plays applies to linesmen only. LINK

The ncaa rule against the Fumblerooski.

 

[tech_iceman]

one of our high school rivals won state in like the 70s or something off of a play similar to those listed... they lined up and one of the players started hauling ass off the field like he was the 12th man... right before he got to the sideline, they snapped the ball and threw it to him and he walked into the endzone (it might have been an extra point to tie it, and this gave them 2 to win)

 

[whyoh]

this is the reason i'm asking

@ 1:29 you will see the infamous (round here) "bounce pass" by CSU vs my beloved Pokes


we are discussing on a wyoming fan site weather this would be called "attempting to deceive".........or weather it was even legal for the person who recovered the "fumble" to even throw a down field pass with the recovered ball



needless to say....most wyoming fans don't want this play to be legal

 

[ACC_HOKIES]

this is the reason i'm asking

@ 1:29 you will see the infamous (round here) "bounce pass" by CSU vs my beloved Pokes


we are discussing on a wyoming fan site weather this would be called "attempting to deceive".........or weather it was even legal for the person who recovered the "fumble" to even throw a down field pass with the recovered ball



needless to say....most wyoming fans don't want this play to be legal

I believe the "bounce pass" itself is legal so long as it is not forward. I've seen it not too long ago (a FCS game perhaps) but the "receiver" ran. I can't say that the bounce is any different than the "double pass" play (long lateral, then forward pass) which is legal.

 

[fordman84]

this is the reason i'm asking

@ 1:29 you will see the infamous (round here) "bounce pass" by CSU vs my beloved Pokes


we are discussing on a wyoming fan site weather this would be called "attempting to deceive".........or weather it was even legal for the person who recovered the "fumble" to even throw a down field pass with the recovered ball



needless to say....most wyoming fans don't want this play to be legal

I have never seen that play before, but that is freakin genius. Gotta put that in my memory bank for when my kiddo is old enough to play popwarner.

 

[uncfan103]

bounce pass was legal here. the play that got called for of attempting to deceive in the byu game has worked without a penalty before, so i dont know the real ruling.

 

[tech_iceman]

the bounce pass would work so well these days because everyone is so paranoid about getting flagged for a late hit