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Bledsoe is a very good player.

He is. But he's not a difference maker and he definitely isn't enough to get Tatum. Hell, he's not even enough for the Green and Kuzma part of the deal.

Basically, buck-Alice has proposed yet another trade where the Bucks improve significantly while the other teams involved volunteer to make themselves worse, just to help the Bucks.
 

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When did I "predicted" fucking idiot?

Do you mean "I suggested" motherfucker? Eeeeh asshole?

Guess what shithead... Half of the best reporters on the web suggested the same.... I have the links in that post, are you now gonna say bliah, bliah, bliah, you predicted wrong, bliah, bliah, bliah, you predicted wrong!

Dickhead! Fucking stupid troll!
* runs bliah thru google translate *

Kind Sir, please recuse yourself from this Donnybrook.

You are defenseless and this is turning into a bloodbath.

Save yourself and just run away.
 

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Bucky seems to think that Bledsoe is a highly coveted player.

When you have a chance to get a 30 year old PG who was full of promise that never materialized, I guess you just do whatever you can to get him.

Could you please tell us five PGs that are better than Bledsoe, aren't in rookie contract and at less than 20M salary?

If you can't provide a list of five, please tell us as many as you can.
 

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Could you please tell us five PGs that are better than Bledsoe, aren't in rookie contract and at less than 20M salary?

If you can't provide a list of five, please tell us as many as you can.

Well that's quite the specific requirement. It's a bit difficult to determine who is and is not a PG in modern basketball. But here's a quick list

Malcolm Brogdan
Goran Dragic
Marcus Smart
Patrick Beverly
Spencer Dinwiddie

Of course that isn't how players trade value is measured to begin with.

Would a team rather have Erid Bledsoe at 18 million or Jrue Holiday at 26 million? Or Dame Lillard at 29 million?

Eric Bledsoe is a good PG. He's also 30 years old and known for being a malcontent. A team like the Lakers might see value in getting him because they are in win now mode and, theoretically, could use a PG.

A team like the Kings has very little reason to bring in Eric Bledsoe. He would just get in the way of developing Fox. Maybe they would sign him off the street to add some veteran leadership. They certainly are NOT going to give up assets just to get him. That makes absolutely ZERO sense. And to suggest that they would trade away BB and his like mid 20 mill a year contract in order to bring in another PG that will cost nearly 20 million is just asinine. It only makes sense to blind Bucks homers rationalizing why teams want to help the Bucks.
 

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Well that's quite the specific requirement. It's a bit difficult to determine who is and is not a PG in modern basketball. But here's a quick list

Malcolm Brogdan
Goran Dragic
Marcus Smart
Patrick Beverly
Spencer Dinwiddie

Of course that isn't how players trade value is measured to begin with.

Would a team rather have Erid Bledsoe at 18 million or Jrue Holiday at 26 million? Or Dame Lillard at 29 million?

Eric Bledsoe is a good PG. He's also 30 years old and known for being a malcontent. A team like the Lakers might see value in getting him because they are in win now mode and, theoretically, could use a PG.

A team like the Kings has very little reason to bring in Eric Bledsoe. He would just get in the way of developing Fox. Maybe they would sign him off the street to add some veteran leadership. They certainly are NOT going to give up assets just to get him. That makes absolutely ZERO sense. And to suggest that they would trade away BB and his like mid 20 mill a year contract in order to bring in another PG that will cost nearly 20 million is just asinine. It only makes sense to blind Bucks homers rationalizing why teams want to help the Bucks.

I repeat, Bledsoe's contract is at 15.5M for this season and will be 16.5M next season...

Despite Marcus Smart not being a PG, all you have listed are good basketball players, but all inferior to Bledsoe too...

I guess the Bucks traded Brogdon and kept Bledsoe... You think you know better?

Being 30yo changes nothing on a player who has another 10 years of career, given his body structure, athleticism and power...

But... who ever said the Kings trading for Bledsoe? Do you even read before you quote?
 
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* runs bliah thru google translate *

Kind Sir, please recuse yourself from this Donnybrook.

You are defenseless and this is turning into a bloodbath.

Save yourself and just run away.

it ain't like he hasn't been getting rotten Rotten Tomatoes thrown at him on every thread he posts his idiotic drivel on...
 

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I repeat, Bledsoe's contract is at 15.5M for this season and will be 16.5M next season...

Despite Marcus Smart not being a PG, all you have listed are good basketball players, but all inferior to Bledsoe too...

I guess the Bucks traded Brogdon and kept Bledsoe... You think you know better?

Being 30yo changes nothing on a player who has another 10 years of career, given his body structure, athleticism and power...

10 years LOL
 
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I repeat, Bledsoe's contract is at 15.5M for this season and will be 16.5M next season...

Despite Marcus Smart not being a PG, all you have listed are good basketball players, but all inferior to Bledsoe too...

I guess the Bucks traded Brogdon and kept Bledsoe... You think you know better?

Being 30yo changes nothing on a player who has another 10 years of career, given his body structure, athleticism and power...

But... who ever said the Kings trading for Bledsoe? Do you even read before you quote?

Wow. In just one post you said Marcus Smart ISNT a PG and that Bledsoe will play till he’s 40

You are just ON FIRE
 

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Well that's quite the specific requirement. It's a bit difficult to determine who is and is not a PG in modern basketball. But here's a quick list

Malcolm Brogdan
Goran Dragic
Marcus Smart
Patrick Beverly
Spencer Dinwiddie

Of course that isn't how players trade value is measured to begin with.

Would a team rather have Erid Bledsoe at 18 million or Jrue Holiday at 26 million? Or Dame Lillard at 29 million?

Eric Bledsoe is a good PG. He's also 30 years old and known for being a malcontent. A team like the Lakers might see value in getting him because they are in win now mode and, theoretically, could use a PG.

A team like the Kings has very little reason to bring in Eric Bledsoe. He would just get in the way of developing Fox. Maybe they would sign him off the street to add some veteran leadership. They certainly are NOT going to give up assets just to get him. That makes absolutely ZERO sense. And to suggest that they would trade away BB and his like mid 20 mill a year contract in order to bring in another PG that will cost nearly 20 million is just asinine. It only makes sense to blind Bucks homers rationalizing why teams want to help the Bucks.

Apparently, here is the PER of all PG's...

Hollinger's NBA Player Stats - ESPN Insider - National Basketball Association - ESPN

Bledsoe is ranked 11th in the league... All 10 above him are on super-max contracts

Dinwiddie 15th, Brogdon 16th, Dragic 23rd, Beverly 45th (of course), Smart 42nd
 
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I repeat, Bledsoe's contract is at 15.5M for this season and will be 16.5M next season...

Despite Marcus Smart not being a PG, all you have listed are good basketball players, but all inferior to Bledsoe too...

I guess the Bucks traded Brogdon and kept Bledsoe... You think you know better?

Being 30yo changes nothing on a player who has another 10 years of career, given his body structure, athleticism and power...

But... who ever said the Kings trading for Bledsoe? Do you even read before you quote?

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I repeat, Bledsoe's contract is at 15.5M for this season and will be 16.5M next season...

And he'll be making 19.2 at age 32.

Despite Marcus Smart not being a PG, all you have listed are good basketball players, but all inferior to Bledsoe too...

The Celtics often play Smart at the point.
I guess the Bucks traded Brogdon and kept Bledsoe... You think you know better?

Know better than who? The Bucks? The Bucks thought that Bledsoe was a more cost-effective option for then than Brogdan. They were able to move Brogdan and get some assets in return. They weren't going to get anything for Bledsoe. Furthermore, they may view Brogdan as too injury prone to give him 85 million dollars. I have no idea.
Being 30yo changes nothing on a player who has another 10 years of career, given his body structure, athleticism and power...

Oh for the love of... are you freaking kidding me?

But... who ever said the Kings trading for Bledsoe? Do you even read before you quote?

Fair enough on this I guess. You had the Kings getting 33 year old Danny Green and Kyle Kuzma for BB. Equally dumb but not the same.
 

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And he'll be making 19.2 at age 32.



The Celtics often play Smart at the point.


Know better than who? The Bucks? The Bucks thought that Bledsoe was a more cost-effective option for then than Brogdan. They were able to move Brogdan and get some assets in return. They weren't going to get anything for Bledsoe. Furthermore, they may view Brogdan as too injury prone to give him 85 million dollars. I have no idea.


Oh for the love of... are you freaking kidding me?



Fair enough on this I guess. You had the Kings getting 33 year old Danny Green and Kyle Kuzma for BB. Equally dumb but not the same.

I guess the dumbest out of all, is to compare Beverly or Smart with Bledsoe... or even Dragic, or Dinwiddie, or Brogdon... and come up with the conclusion... they are all better!

I would suggest to check with your shrink, cause definitely smth is wrong with your mind stability...

By the way, Green (expiring) is a year younger than Bjelica (again expiring but additionally not guaranteed contract)...
 

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I guess the dumbest out of all, is to compare Beverly or Smart with Bledsoe... or even Dragic, or Dinwiddie, or Brogdon... and come up with the conclusion... they are all better!

Of course. Bledsoe is incomprable! That's why you want to trade him so badly and have 2nd year player replace him. You asked for my opinion. I gave it to you.



By the way, Green (expiring) is a year younger than Bjelica (again expiring but additionally not guaranteed contract)...

Green(born June 1987) is a year younger that Bjelica(born May 1988)? Interesting.

Why exactly is this relevant? Do you think the Kings are trying to form a 30something squad?
 
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