2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

[dtgold88]

Love might (might) have been the better player in some bygone era of the NBA where lateral quickness in a big was less important.

But if we're talking today's game... Draymond is better piece to have if a team is building towards a championship. And I don't really think that's arguable. They are different players, of course... so one or the other might fit better in a specific situation... but that's a separate issue. Draymond's defense and versatility is invaluable in today's game... and it's a skill that only becomes more important in the playoffs.

Neither are #1's, obviously.

WHile I do agree with some of this you are thinking about Greenś current team (when healthy) and his impact as it is all you have seen. Sure, surround him with other elite shooters and defenders and he is valuable. But what about all the other teams that don have elite shooters and defenders? What about the top teams who could be aided by an elite rebounder and solid shooter to stretch the floor(your team comes to mind)?

You think Green would help both LA teams more than Love would....or at least a slightly younger Love?

And again I do not doubt Green was a nice piece for his GS title teams, but the Cavs also liked having Love with that elite rebounding as well as his shooting to space the floor for that Lebron fellow (and Kyrie).

I do agree Love cannot be a #1 on a title team, but he was the #1 on a 40 win team in the West. Green at best is a #2 on an awful team.

 

[Gman]

You think Green would help both LA teams more than Love would....or at least a slightly younger Love?

The question is probably moot because if you add either Green or Love to either L.A. team, that team would probably win the Championship either way.

The other stuff you bring up has more to do with fit in a particular situation. I'll stand by what I said earlier on that front... it's a separate issue.

So let's talk about "elite rebounding". You keep bringing this up as a big deal with KLove. Here's my retort to that:

It's a poor point in the context of the current conversation. But not because it isn't true (of course, it is true). Rather, it's a poor point because elite rebounding (by itself) is less important in today's game.

Let's name some other elite rebounders: Andre Drummond. Enes Kanter. Tristan Thompson.

^ For all of their elite rebounding percentages... these guys aren't game changers. Not in today's NBA.

So in this comparison, you're highlighting a skill that (while not unimportant) just doesn't move the needle as much as other qualities. The same can be said of a low post game... simply put, that skill is de-emphasized in today's game.

IMO, the only really important positive that Love has the advantage in is outside shooting. That one is a real point in favor of Love. But Draymond's speed, defense and passing make him the better championship fit in 2020.

 

[bksballer89]

@tlance and others, I need betting advise for the football games today.

Leaning on going with both underdogs to cover and go over in both games.

O/U for the AFC game is 51.5 and NFC is 46.5

 

[tlance]

Love might (might) have been the better player in some bygone era of the NBA where lateral quickness in a big was less important.

But if we're talking today's game... Draymond is better piece to have if a team is building towards a championship. And I don't really think that's arguable. They are different players, of course... so one or the other might fit better in a specific situation... but that's a separate issue. Draymond's defense and versatility is invaluable in today's game... and it's a skill that only becomes more important in the playoffs.

Neither are #1's, obviously.

Exactly what I have said all along.

 

[tlance]

@tlance and others, I need betting advise for the football games today.

Leaning on going with both underdogs to cover and go over in both games.

O/U for the AFC game is 51.5 and NFC is 46.5

Man.

Don’t know if you should follow my advice given how my picks have fared this January.

But here goes:

Taking the under in the AFC because it will be brutally cold and I think Tennessee will succeed in slowing tempo. I like Tennessee to cover, but KC to win.

In the NFC, I want SF and the over. I just think they are going to run over the GB defense who struggles against the run. And if they can post 30 points, this game should go over 46.5.

 

[bksballer89]

Man.

Don’t know if you should follow my advice given how my picks have fared this January.

But here goes:

Taking the under in the AFC because it will be brutally cold and I think Tennessee will succeed in slowing tempo. I like Tennessee to cover, but KC to win.

In the NFC, I want SF and the over. I just think they are going to run over the GB defense who struggles against the run. And if they can post 30 points, this game should go over 46.5.

I've been going back and forth on the Pack/49ers game. As you said it should go over but I'm getting cold feet about about going with the Pack. Thinking going 49ers to cover but the only thing is I can't see the Packers not competing with the 49ers after they were destroyed earlier this season

 

[raptorlife4]

@tlance and others, I need betting advise for the football games today.

Leaning on going with both underdogs to cover and go over in both games.

O/U for the AFC game is 51.5 and NFC is 46.5

Afc under
Nfc over
Both underdogs cover

 

[bksballer89]

May wait for the first quarter to make my chiefs/titans bet since i can bet during the game on fan duel. That is a better way to gauge the O/U

 

[tlance]

I've been going back and forth on the Pack/49ers game. As you said it should go over but I'm getting cold feet about about going with the Pack. Thinking going 49ers to cover but the only thing is I can't see the Packers not competing with the 49ers after they were destroyed earlier this season

I just don’t think Green Bay matches up well with them.

GB is weak against the run and SF is 1 of the best running teams out there. And, SF has elite pass defense against WRs. Think it will be tough for GB to sustain offense.

 

[Wamu]

@ChiefsLakers67

Frank Clark better hope D. Henry don't run him the fuck over today. He really should have kept his mouth shut.

 

[Wamu]

I just don’t think Green Bay matches up well with them.

GB is weak against the run and SF is 1 of the best running teams out there. And, SF has elite pass defense against WRs. Think it will be tough for GB to sustain offense.

I think the only way G.B. pulls off the upset is if Rodgers is damn near perfect & S.F. beats themselves with multiple TO's. Hopefully both games will be entertaining though.

 

[Wamu]

@tlance

 

[tlance]

@tlance

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Honestly not sure who is worse. Really tough call there.

 

[Wamu]

Honestly not sure who is worse. Really tough call there.

I know what you mean but Haslam gets my vote.

 

[tlance]

I know what you mean but Haslam gets my vote.

Snyder gets mine!

LOL.

Then again, I know his transgressions a lot better than I know Haslam’s

 

[Wamu]

Snyder gets mine!

LOL.

Then again, I know his transgressions a lot better than I know Haslam’s

At one point Haslam would go outta his way to pit employees against each other. Also he was foolish enough to keep Hue Jackson around after going 1-15 in '16. And Haslam was rewarded by Jackson guiding the Browns to an 0-16 record in '17. And still didn't fire him!

 

[tlance]

At one point Haslam would go outta his way to pit employees against each other. Also he was foolish enough to keep Hue Jackson around after going 1-15 in '16. And Haslam was rewarded by Jackson guiding the Browns to an 0-16 record in '17. And still didn't fire him!

Snyder meddled his way into dozens of terrible personnel mistakes.

And when he fires somebody, he launches a personal smear campaign first. The team culture has always been atrocious. He even finds a way to mess up the few good decisions he has made.

 

[Wamu]

Snyder meddled his way into dozens of terrible personnel mistakes.

And when he fires somebody, he launches a personal smear campaign first. The team culture has always been atrocious. He even finds a way to mess up the few good decisions he has made.

That's not good. Unfortunately we both root for teams with idiot owners.

 

[Black Adam]

@ChiefsLakers67

Frank Clark better hope D. Henry don't run him the fuck over today. He really should have kept his mouth shut.

wish he woulda kept his flytrap shut too, but we'll see how it goes...

 

[Wamu]

wish he woulda kept his flytrap shut too, but we'll see how it goes...

I expect your Chiefs to take care of business today. Too much firepower for the Titans to stop.