Things Jim Harbaugh has done (it's amazing)

[TrustMeIamRight]

I've already said OSU isn't on that same level. They're right below them as the only other team to win more than 1 CFP game and to also win a NC. That NC is huge. Also, as far as appearances go, OSU has had 2 seasons with 1 loss where they didn't make the CFP. Bama and Clemson have gotten in every time with 1 loss (Alabama 3 times, Clemson 2 times). When you have a subjective committee, it makes that a bit of a moot point.

No other team has been as consistently good as OSU outside of Clemson and Bama other than OU, and they've embarrassed themselves in 3 of the 4 appearances they've made. Not only that, they have 9 fewer wins in the CFP era than OSU, while we're only 3 behind Clemson and Bama. Again, the total wins and CFP Titles echo my thoughts exactly.

When your one loss is by 30 to Iowa one year and 30 to Purdue another. It makes the decision pretty easy for the committee.

I was 100 times more impressed with OSU this year than any other year. Adding Fields to the offense, with a defense anchored by most likely 2 of the top 3 picks in the draft. This, to me, was the best team OSU has had. I had a UM fan say to me Fields wasn’t an elite QB and I fell out of my chair laughing. I dread having to face him next year.

 

[Across The Field]

Like I said, you've both made played 4 CFP games, yes, you have two wins and they have none, but they've also made one more than you.

Clemson and Alabama both have 5 appearances in 6 years and have played 9 and 8 games versus your 4. They have both won 6.

They are closer to you than you are to us....as indicated by records....which clearly don't support your argument.

6 teams have more than 1 game in the CFP...


Clemson 9 games 6 wins (Their 9th game is Mon)
Alabama 9 games 6 wins



Big Gap



tOSU 4 games 2 wins

Gap

Oklahoma 4 games 0 wins

Gap

Georgia 2 games 1 win
Oregon 2 games 1 win

Oklahoma has been there because the Big 12 has been a joke and they have the brand recognition to get in. There's a reason they can't win in the CFP while OSU is 2-2, and should be 3-1.

And no, records don't suggest they're closer to OSU. They have 9 fewer wins than us in this era. We have 3 fewer wins than Clemson and Bama, while playing in a significantly better conference than Clemson, to boot. Ohio State is also 5-2 in bowl games in the playoff era while Oklahoma is (LMAO) 1-5, with their only win coming against an 8-5 Auburn team.

The gap between OSU and OU is dramatically larger than between OSU and Clemson/Bama.

 

[Across The Field]

When your one loss is by 30 to Iowa one year and 30 to Purdue another. It makes the decision pretty easy for the committee.

I was 100 times more impressed with OSU this year than any other year. Adding Fields to the offense, with a defense anchored by most likely 2 of the top 3 picks in the draft. This, to me, was the best team OSU has had. I had a UM fan say to me Fields wasn’t an elite QB and I fell out of my chair laughing. I dread having to face him next year.

There's no doubt. That loss to Clemson is going to linger for years. Besides the officiating and us shooting ourselves in the foot with unforced screw-ups, I would have absolutely loved to see what the game looked like if Fields and Dobbins weren't injured. Fields' knee injury took away an explosive dimension of our offense. His scrambling ability and elite arm made him a nightmare on 3rd down, which is why OSU led the nation in 3rd down conversion percentage.

I can't wait to see him next year. The one area I was concerned about was the defensive backfield, but with Wade coming back, that helps a ton. I don't see us having a drop-off overall from this year.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

There's no doubt. That loss to Clemson is going to linger for years. Besides the officiating and us shooting ourselves in the foot with unforced screw-ups, I would have absolutely loved to see what the game looked like if Fields and Dobbins weren't injured. Fields' knee injury took away an explosive dimension of our offense. His scrambling ability and elite arm made him a nightmare on 3rd down, which is why OSU led the nation in 3rd down conversion percentage.

I can't wait to see him next year. The one area I was concerned about was the defensive backfield, but with Wade coming back, that helps a ton. I don't see us having a drop-off overall from this year.

I think the passing game will be better with a year under Fields belt and a year for Garrett Wilson. I think the offense may not be as explosive, as Master Teague looks like a solid back, but not a game changer like Dobbins. Then again — OSU could have a true freshman come out of nowhere again.

I think the B1G will be OSU and then a big drop to everyone else. This years team though, with Okudah and Young, then Fields and Dobbins. That was some serious firepower on both sides.

 

[osubuckeye89]

I think the passing game will be better with a year under Fields belt and a year for Garrett Wilson. I think the offense may not be as explosive, as Master Teague looks like a solid back, but not a game changer like Dobbins. Then again — OSU could have a true freshman come out of nowhere again.

I think the B1G will be OSU and then a big drop to everyone else. This years team though, with Okudah and Young, then Fields and Dobbins. That was some serious firepower on both sides.

The RB comp next year should be interesting

Teague absolutely has to up his game as the #1 spot is far from assured. Steele Chambers and Marcus Crowley only played in early season garbage time this year as Freshman, but both were 4* recruits. Crowley seemed to show some explosion, but as I said, garbage time.

Shaun Wade returning was by far the biggest win of the offseason, our secondary would had been 100% up in the air had he gone pro too, his return makes things a lot better.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

The RB comp next year should be interesting

Teague absolutely has to up his game as the #1 spot is far from assured. Steele Chambers and Marcus Crowley only played in early season garbage time this year as Freshman, but both were 4* recruits. Crowley seemed to show some explosion, but as I said, garbage time.

Shaun Wade returning was by far the biggest win of the offseason, our secondary would had been 100% up in the air had he gone pro too, his return makes things a lot better.

Yeah — that’s why I think OSU will be more of a pass first team next year. With Olave and Wilson, along with Fields — they will carry the offense, IMO.

Teague seemed like a solid backup but he most definitely didn’t have the explosiveness of Dobbins.

Losing Young and Okudah is really tough, but replacing defensive players seems easier than skill position guys. So while I’m sure OSU will take a step back on defense after losing those two — I don’t think it will be much

 

[huskers1217]

did someone link @Red_Alert 's Bo Pelini >>> Jim Harbaugh thread?

 

[osubuckeye89]

Yeah — that’s why I think OSU will be more of a pass first team next year. With Olave and Wilson, along with Fields — they will carry the offense, IMO.

Teague seemed like a solid backup but he most definitely didn’t have the explosiveness of Dobbins.

Losing Young and Okudah is really tough, but replacing defensive players seems easier than skill position guys. So while I’m sure OSU will take a step back on defense after losing those two — I don’t think it will be much

I'd assume there will be much more of a RB by committee approach next season. Would not be shocked to see a little bit more of designed runs for Fields next season either, to try to open up more for the backs.

Dline should be fine, though its hard to replace a guy like Young, we have tons of depth and talent.

Secondary after Wade is still going to be a question, I trust we will find at least some decent play, though not as good as Okudah.

 

[Rolltide94]

Oklahoma has been there because the Big 12 has been a joke and they have the brand recognition to get in. There's a reason they can't win in the CFP while OSU is 2-2, and should be 3-1.

And no, records don't suggest they're closer to OSU. They have 9 fewer wins than us in this era. We have 3 fewer wins than Clemson and Bama, while playing in a significantly better conference than Clemson, to boot. Ohio State is also 5-2 in bowl games in the playoff era while Oklahoma is (LMAO) 1-5, with their only win coming against an 8-5 Auburn team.

The gap between OSU and OU is dramatically larger than between OSU and Clemson/Bama.

You keep telling yourself that and one day it might even be true.

Ahh yes, the we wuz robbed and should be 3-1, spoken like a true homer.

One of the reason that Oklahoma is 1-5 in bowl games while tOSU is 5-2 is Oklahoma hasn't gotten to play 3 Pac-12 teams. They've had to play Clemson twice, Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Do you really think tOSU is 5-2 if those are the 5 teams they had to play, LMAO, get real, one of the reasons that Oklahoma was losing to Georgia in OT in the first place is that they kicked your ass in the regular season. It's a lot easier to win your bowl game when it's not a semi-final. Oklahoma and Ohio State are 1-1 against each other in the playoff era. Alabama and Clemson are 2-2 against each other in the playoff era and either is likely a 4 championship team without the other.

The win total is basically Oklahoma having a 8-5 season in 2014 and not playing a championship game for 3 seasons.

Liike I said, 6 CFP wins for Alabama and Clemson, 2 for Ohio St and 0 for Oklahoma, 2 is a lot closer to 0 than it is to 6. It's better for sure, but Georgia is an OT away from having 2 wins too. Is Georgia better than Oklahoma too?

 

[fritowrdo]

It's made up...kind of like tOSU's elite status.

Right.

You are a Michigan man right......

 

[fritowrdo]

There is nothing elite about UM’s program right now.

But their record.....

 

[Rolltide94]

Right.

You are a Michigan man right......

Actually I can't stand Michigan, they think they are a blue blood when they're not, but at least they know they are not elite.

Now that y'all have the SEC monkey off your back(still 8 bowl wins from .500) you think you are elite, but we all know the truth. Maybe it's just a Southern thing, the only ACC bowl win y'all have is that one you stole from Miami. 3-15 bowl record vs Southern teams, y'all might want to try to make more Rose Bowls, the Pac-12 can't beat any ranked teams OOC either.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I'd assume there will be much more of a RB by committee approach next season. Would not be shocked to see a little bit more of designed runs for Fields next season either, to try to open up more for the backs.

Dline should be fine, though its hard to replace a guy like Young, we have tons of depth and talent.

Secondary after Wade is still going to be a question, I trust we will find at least some decent play, though not as good as Okudah.

I think it will depend on who they have at QB behind Fields. Definitely don’t want him taking a lot of hits if they don’t have a backup they have a ton of confidence in.

Defensively — I think you guys will be fine. You can’t replace guys like Young and Okudah, but OSU has the depth to make it work.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Right.

You are a Michigan man right......

The guys screen name is literally RollTide and you say he is a Michigan man?!?

 

[fritowrdo]

Actually I can't stand Michigan, they think they are a blue blood when they're not, but at least they know they are not elite.

Now that y'all have the SEC monkey off your back(still 8 bowl wins from .500) you think you are elite, but we all know the truth. Maybe it's just a Southern thing, the only ACC bowl win y'all have is that one you stole from Miami. 3-15 bowl record vs Southern teams, y'all might want to try to make more Rose Bowls, the Pac-12 can't beat any ranked teams OOC either.

Roll Bucks....

 

[fritowrdo]

The guys screen name is literally RollTide and you say he is a Michigan man?!?

Yup....

 

[Across The Field]

You keep telling yourself that and one day it might even be true.

Ahh yes, the we wuz robbed and should be 3-1, spoken like a true homer.

One of the reason that Oklahoma is 1-5 in bowl games while tOSU is 5-2 is Oklahoma hasn't gotten to play 3 Pac-12 teams. They've had to play Clemson twice, Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Do you really think tOSU is 5-2 if those are the 5 teams they had to play, LMAO, get real, one of the reasons that Oklahoma was losing to Georgia in OT in the first place is that they kicked your ass in the regular season. It's a lot easier to win your bowl game when it's not a semi-final. Oklahoma and Ohio State are 1-1 against each other in the playoff era. Alabama and Clemson are 2-2 against each other in the playoff era and either is likely a 4 championship team without the other.

The win total is basically Oklahoma having a 8-5 season in 2014 and not playing a championship game for 3 seasons.

Liike I said, 6 CFP wins for Alabama and Clemson, 2 for Ohio St and 0 for Oklahoma, 2 is a lot closer to 0 than it is to 6. It's better for sure, but Georgia is an OT away from having 2 wins too. Is Georgia better than Oklahoma too?

Weird, because in the CFP era, we've played Clemson twice, Alabama, and beat an Oregon team, a USC team, and a ND team that would've also probably beaten Oklahoma this year. Aside from the year they beat us and almost beat UGA, they've largely been a pretty good, but not great team who was playing in a garbage conference who's only other flagship program has been down for about a decade.

In 6 years of games, there are a lot more than just playoff games. OSU has been consistently very, very good, only bested by Clemson and Bama, hence the win totals. Sorry bud, you're just wrong on this one.

 

[Across The Field]

I think the passing game will be better with a year under Fields belt and a year for Garrett Wilson. I think the offense may not be as explosive, as Master Teague looks like a solid back, but not a game changer like Dobbins. Then again — OSU could have a true freshman come out of nowhere again.

I think the B1G will be OSU and then a big drop to everyone else. This years team though, with Okudah and Young, then Fields and Dobbins. That was some serious firepower on both sides.

Teague is a question mark. He had his first taste of big game action against michigan and Clemson, and it was obviously not his best showing, averaging 2 YPC. However, he was still only in his second year, and he'll have another full offseason. He's not Dobbins, you're right, but I think he's better than Weber. I think OSU is going to deploy multiple backs next year, though, so we'll see.

I'm not sure the drop will be that big. Wisconsin is going to still be good, Minnesota returns a lot, as does Penn State. Not as good as this year, but still the clear 2nd best conference in the nation. Unfortunately, you're right about this year's OSU. We'll always look back and wonder what could've been if so many things had gone different. I believe that with a healthy Fields and Dobbins and playing our best, we're better than any team in the nation hand down, but that's not how it goes sometimes.

 

[Rolltide94]

Weird, because in the CFP era, we've played Clemson twice, Alabama, and beat an Oregon team, a USC team, and a ND team that would've also probably beaten Oklahoma this year. Aside from the year they beat us and almost beat UGA, they've largely been a pretty good, but not great team who was playing in a garbage conference who's only other flagship program has been down for about a decade.

In 6 years of games, there are a lot more than just playoff games. OSU has been consistently very, very good, only bested by Clemson and Bama, hence the win totals. Sorry bud, you're just wrong on this one.

You're right, there are more games than just the playoff games you know what Oklahoma hasn't done...pretended to be a contender while losing embarrassingly by 30 points to mediocre teams...yet somehow they're Chokelahoma....sounds like something a largely pretty good, but not great team would do.

 

[Rolltide94]

The guys screen name is literally RollTide and you say he is a Michigan man?!?

Damn, and I thought Michigan fans were dense...