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Do Any Of You Miss The Old Conference Set up?

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Short answer, yes.

I dont really have a problem with the programs we play in the Big12 as far as culture ect. I think we all fit pretty well with each other but WVU fits better geographically in the SEC/ACC/BIG a heluvalot better than the Big12 as far as physical location and in some ways culturally.

Now I DO like alot of the teams we play as far as opponents better than the old BigEast but CFB is and will always be better regionally than nationally so... in a perfect world I’d rather play teams closer to us.
Sorry man back to the Big East for you and keep searching for that “cultural fit”.
 

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If the SEC expands it will be for a NC or Virginia team.

No way Oklahoma wants any part of the SEC.

SHHHHHHHHHHH.

(I was taking a shot at Texas. Don’t tell Neil, though. He might take time away from finding Waldo.)
 

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SHHHHHHHHHHH.

(I was taking a shot at Texas. Don’t tell Neil, though. He might take time away from finding Waldo.)
I actually wish the SEC would take OU and Okie State because that would guarantee Auburn would move to the east and it would severely screw you guys.

We would drop LSU and pick up KY, Vandy, SC and Mizzou. You guys would have to drop the TN game and pick up OU every year. I can hear the whining from your fan base now.
 

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I actually wish the SEC would take OU and Okie State because that would guarantee Auburn would move to the east and it would severely screw you guys.

We would drop LSU and pick up KY, Vandy, SC and Mizzou. You guys would have to drop the TN game and pick up OU every year. I can hear the whining from your fan base now.

Nah. Tennessee is on the way back. You and the rest of the conference would complain that we got Tennessee during their lean years and now you’re stuck with them during their strong ones.
 

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Nah. Tennessee is on the way back. You and the rest of the conference would complain that we got Tennessee during their lean years and now you’re stuck with them during their strong ones.
You guys never get tired of pimping TN. So sad.
 

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Yeah, I miss the 10 team format because I liked that everyone played everyone else. Gave a true conference champion.
 

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curious to hear a Sooners perspective. If you had to choose. RRSO or thanksgiving vs Nebraska
If I only get one, RRSO.

Loved Thanksgiving Friday vs Nebraska when I was a kid.
 

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Yeah, I miss the 10 team format because I liked that everyone played everyone else. Gave a true conference champion.
Do you really feel a "true champion" hasn't been named? I'd like to go back also but the only time I felt like the SEC Champion wasn't a true champion was in 1993 when Auburn beat both Bama and Florida but couldn't play in the championship game because of probation. Other than that I think it all pretty much worked out.

I can't think of a time when the PAC champ didn't win it on the field.
 

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Do you really feel a "true champion" hasn't been named? I'd like to go back also but the only time I felt like the SEC Champion wasn't a true champion was in 1993 when Auburn beat both Bama and Florida but couldn't play in the championship game because of probation. Other than that I think it all pretty much worked out.

I can't think of a time when the PAC champ didn't win it on the field.

In 2011 USC "won" the PAC South but couldn't play in the CCG because of the sanctions. So 6-6 UCLA (who USC beat 50-0) played Oregon (who USC beat in Eugene a week before that) in the CCG.

I just don't really consider it a true champion when there are teams that the conference champion hasn't played. We don't know how those games would have turned out and how it would have effected the ccg.

And don't get me started on how much I hate ccg "rematches". lol
 

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If the SEC expands it will be for a NC or Virginia team.

No way Oklahoma wants any part of the SEC.
Interesting. I heard a discussion regarding the Delaney retirement the other day and this came up. From this discussion, the B1G was the first to seek expansion. Delaney and university presidents first choice was to land North Carolina, Virginia and Georgia Tech. While I understood the academic side of it, Georgia Tech seemed like a strange choice. Until I remembered it was in Atlanta. Then I woke up.

Strange how conference realignment ended up different than originally desired.
 

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Odd I remember OU&Texas agreed to a deal with the pac, then Scott comes back and tell us the money not there - so Texas and OU see a deal they agreed to fall apart. Neither has trusted Scott again.
Texas never considered the pac again. I Believe OU talk to them once
Because I’m sure when 2024 comes and the big xii implodes, OU wants to save the RRSO as an OOC
Ou and Texas will always be in the same conference. To much money on the table for either of them to strike out on their own.
 

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Interesting. I heard a discussion regarding the Delaney retirement the other day and this came up. From this discussion, the B1G was the first to seek expansion. Delaney and university presidents first choice was to land North Carolina, Virginia and Georgia Tech. While I understood the academic side of it, Georgia Tech seemed like a strange choice. Until I remembered it was in Atlanta. Then I woke up.

Strange how conference realignment ended up different than originally desired.
It’s all about populations and Virginia and NC are loaded.

Since cable is dying I’m not sure population of a state matters as much as fan base size now. It mattered before because you could charge a premium to all residents in that state for conference channels that had teams in that state regardless if they wanted it as long as they bought cable.

Cord cutting is killing that model so it gets a bit more interesting.

Oklahoma is now much more attractive than say a Missouri where they have 2 million more residents. Note success didn’t matter before and that’s why the B1G took Rutgers because it gave them New Jersey and brought the B1G channel package with them.

Conference expansion isn’t as black and white as it was 5 years ago.
 

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It’s all about populations and Virginia and NC are loaded.

Since cable is dying I’m not sure population of a state matters as much as fan base size now. It mattered before because you could charge a premium to all residents in that state for conference channels that had teams in that state regardless if they wanted it as long as they bought cable.

Cord cutting is killing that model so it gets a bit more interesting.

Oklahoma is now much more attractive than say a Missouri where they have 2 million more residents. Note success didn’t matter before and that’s why the B1G took Rutgers because it gave them New Jersey and brought the B1G channel package with them.

Conference expansion isn’t as black and white as it was 5 years ago.
I agree 100%. And I think your explanation is exactly why the Big 12 stayed a 10 a couple of years ago.
 

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curious to hear a Sooners perspective. If you had to choose. RRSO or thanksgiving vs Nebraska

Oklahoma already chose in 1993, they want and need the Texas game every year for recruiting. Deloss Dodds and Donnie Duncan decided that at the formation of the Big 12.

Oklahoma does not need Nebraska at all.

Nebraska needed Oklahoma, but oh well. The Big 12 lacked the foresight that one of the biggest brand games in football, Nebraska/Oklahoma, and decided that game was worth less than Oklahoma/Texas.

In the B1G now, and hopefully, some day, Nebraska will have a season where they can qualify for a bowl game. Maybe Nebraska finds a niche in the B1G West, but it is looking doubtful at this point.

BTW, I don't miss any of the old conference stuff. Move on from it.

I do miss when the Power Conferences all played power OOC games. In the 1960s, 1970s, and early 1980s, all teams played awesome OOC schedules. Nebraska would play USC, Texas A&M, Arizona State, and Minnesota in an OOC schedule.

2019 S Alabama(crap home game), and now Nebraska is the crap home game for others
2010 W Kentucky, Idaho, Washington S Dakota State (oh crap three crap home games)
1994 West Virginia, Texas Tech, UCLA, Pacific(the usual one crap home game)
1990 Baylor, No Illinois, Minnesota, Oregon State
1982 Iowa, Penn State, New Mexico State, Auburn
1979 Utah State, Iowa, Penn State, New Mexico State
1974 Oregon, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Northwestern
1973 UCLA, North Carolina State, Wisconsin, Minnesota
1969 USC(my first home game), Texas A&M, Minnesota
1967 Washington, Minnesota, TCU
1965 TCU, Air Force, Wisconsin


I do miss being in my 20s though. But I can't change that either.
 

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If I only get one, RRSO.

Loved Thanksgiving Friday vs Nebraska when I was a kid.

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