Game of Thrones

[DarthVedder]

Yeah it's always been used as a punishment, at least in the recent past, but it also served a purpose. By the time the White Walkers were forgotten or nobody believed in them, there were hostilities with the Wildlings. Now the White Walkers are gone and there are no more hostilities with the Wildliings. I suppose they might still view the Wildlings as an uncivilized society and would prefer to distance themselves from them.

It was partly a punishment and for some people like the Starks it was seen as an honor or duty. They always supported the NW and family members enlisted to help in leadership positions. That's why Benjen was there, and was pretty much the reason Jon joined.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I’ll just say it.....I’m satisfied with the ending.

The shame of it is that the rushed and abbreviated journey to get here was so god fucking awful. It’s like when you go on a vacation and getting there is such a fucking disaster....but then the vacation goes off well.

The treatment they gave all main characters was fantastic. The Dany heel turn was such an abortion that I can get her outing being weird. Had we had more time to explore that turn this would make more sense. Simple fact in the end.....she torched an entire city and felt justified in doing it. That bat shit crazy that has to be stomped out.

A little off on the Bran ascension...but the logic of the keeper of memories being tasked with someone finally doing the right thing holds true. All are in places they need to be.

Sansa has the north free. Jon will be happy further north. Arya always was destined to be one that wanders and explores. After all the shit the Stark children went through this was a very fitting send off

I came in expecting it to go out like a wet fart. But for me they stuck the landing much better than I had imagined possible.

Same here. Bran was a little off but I respect the call. And at least his character finally is worth a shit

 

[Robotech]

How did anybody know jon killed Dany?

I'm thinking that soldiers rushed up there after hearing the noise from Drogon and seeing Drogon fly away carrying a body. When they get up there they see Jon standing next to a pool of blood.

 

[DarthVedder]

I'm thinking that soldiers rushed up there after hearing the noise from Drogon and seeing Drogon fly away carrying a body. When they get up there they see Jon standing next to a pool of blood.

The big thing is Jon's inability to lie... Even if they didn't know and had no way of knowing, Jon would have told them.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Veep had a better finale last week.

The writing this season's been atrocious. I'm fine with Daenerys getting killed. But after 7 seasons of her turning victimhood into virtue, a quick 3-episode arc turns her into a power-drunk monster, who's suddenly cool with indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians, r*pe and wanton destruction.

Bran as king makes no sense, since everything established before this season is that the 3-eyed raven doesn't desire or need fame or glory. It's as though the writers hit a wall and just decided that they'd just take a gamble on one of the remaining characters- who all happen to be the most virtuous.

It wasn't as crappy as Sopranos or Dexter for an ending, I guess.

I have to assume Martin's ending is also Bran on the throne

 

[Edonidd]

The more I think about the episode the madder I get.

The three eyed raven had an actual purpose, but it was established that none of the children of the Forest had any power down south because they had cut down all the weir wood trees. Bran was especially connected to those trees.

Bran was also crippled and could not have kids. Meaning they're already looking at a contested succession in the future, which often in those times meant war. The #1 priority in electing a king there would have been stability, not already looking at another war.

There was literally more unsullied and Dothraki watching Dany's speech at the red keep than there was BEFORE the battle for Winterfell. I think there might have been more Unsullied and Dothraki at that speech than there was at the speech when they boarded the boats to even come to Weteros. I guess the best way to beat teleporting armies, stealth fighter sailboats, and laser-guided rocket-propelled balista is to have clone army technology.

The whole arresting Jon thing, and then just letting him go free seemed dumb. If greyworm honestly didn't care what happened, they should have just elected him king as punishment.

Weird that last week the whole tunnels and everything under the red keep was collapsing, but this week it looks like only 17 bricks fell down. Unfortunately all 17 bricks fell on Jaime and Cersei. Well on everything but his gold hand, conveniently. Still mad that they set up her prophecy for 8 seasons, and then decided to throw it away and she would due from bricks not the Velonquar or w/e.

Everything else was just kind of meh. None of it seemed fitting, but at least most of it wasnt screamingly blatantly stupid.

 

[Mofo]

I have to assume Martin's ending is also Bran on the throne

Well, yeah. By not completing the books and concentrating on the HBO adaptation, Martin just let HBO finish the thing. He'll now write the 'novelization', and have it match up 99%.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

It had elements and glimpses of past greatness.
It was a very earnest attempt to give us a satisfying ending....almost as if it felt guilty..

It was not an all-time great episode. Most TV finales are horrible.
But, This one was far from a bad finale. It just wasn't quite enough.

It felt like it was a little too late, and too much damage had been done earlier to the show itself.
The ending was good in a vacuum had we never saw most of seasons 7 & 8 as they were done.
Essentially the pace to reach the ending was stupid which devalued the good elements of the ending.

A Very Frustrating "just-missed" episode that was far superior to the first five episodes.

 

[juliansteed]

It was partly a punishment and for some people like the Starks it was seen as an honor or duty. They always supported the NW and family members enlisted to help in leadership positions. That's why Benjen was there, and was pretty much the reason Jon joined.

Right but my point initial point on the topic is that its only purpose now seems to be punishment.

 

[Robotech]

The more I think about the episode the madder I get.

The three eyed raven had an actual purpose, but it was established that none of the children of the Forest had any power down south because they had cut down all the weir wood trees. Bran was especially connected to those trees.

Bran was also crippled and could not have kids. Meaning they're already looking at a contested succession in the future, which often in those times meant war. The #1 priority in electing a king there would have been stability, not already looking at another war.

There was literally more unsullied and Dothraki watching Dany's speech at the red keep than there was BEFORE the battle for Winterfell. I think there might have been more Unsullied and Dothraki at that speech than there was at the speech when they boarded the boats to even come to Weteros. I guess the best way to beat teleporting armies, stealth fighter sailboats, and laser-guided rocket-propelled balista is to have clone army technology.

The whole arresting Jon thing, and then just letting him go free seemed dumb. If greyworm honestly didn't care what happened, they should have just elected him king as punishment.

Weird that last week the whole tunnels and everything under the red keep was collapsing, but this week it looks like only 17 bricks fell down. Unfortunately all 17 bricks fell on Jaime and Cersei. Well on everything but his gold hand, conveniently. Still mad that they set up her prophecy for 8 seasons, and then decided to throw it away and she would due from bricks not the Velonquar or w/e.

Everything else was just kind of meh. None of it seemed fitting, but at least most of it wasnt screamingly blatantly stupid.

Yeah, if Jaime and Cersei had worn helmets, they would've survived.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

well the 1st half had tons of potential.
I really did enjoy it.
Dany with her speech, kept me thinking wow you know the good guys are thinking they should do something but in reality there was nothing they could do. It was well done.
Tyrion in jail talking to Jon Snow was a good engagement as well. All was well up to Dany dying.
After the dragon flew off with her body, the episode started down hill.

All the bullshit we heard about the 3 eyed raven I guess was bullshit. Yeah sure I will be King.
I get why they would offer to him, but he should have declined.

Think the Jon Snow out was weak. Either Kill him or get him free. Sending him to a place that one, isnt needed anymore & two has no Crows left. Just weak!

My personal wants were for someone to kill grey worm. Outside of Dany he was the biggest Murderer left. I guess I cant have everything. Our greatest Assassin went to kings landing to do absolutely nothing the whole time. What was the point of that? So the Hound wasnt lonely on the trip down? kind of a waste.

I get they decided to have the Starks control everything in the end.
The North
The 6 kingdoms
North of the wall
& the great unknown.

but felt it was cheesy

Sansa being the Queen of the North was the only thing that made sense in the end.
I was ok with Arya going off on her own, but meh.

but I did think the 1st part of the episode was awesome.


I will say my favorite part was when Arya told Yara if you keep talking shit about my brother I will slit your fucking throat.
Not actually how she said it, but is how I heard it LOL

 

[Stakesarehigh]

The more I think about the episode the madder I get.

The three eyed raven had an actual purpose, but it was established that none of the children of the Forest had any power down south because they had cut down all the weir wood trees. Bran was especially connected to those trees.

Bran was also crippled and could not have kids. Meaning they're already looking at a contested succession in the future, which often in those times meant war. The #1 priority in electing a king there would have been stability, not already looking at another war.

There was literally more unsullied and Dothraki watching Dany's speech at the red keep than there was BEFORE the battle for Winterfell. I think there might have been more Unsullied and Dothraki at that speech than there was at the speech when they boarded the boats to even come to Weteros. I guess the best way to beat teleporting armies, stealth fighter sailboats, and laser-guided rocket-propelled balista is to have clone army technology.

The whole arresting Jon thing, and then just letting him go free seemed dumb. If greyworm honestly didn't care what happened, they should have just elected him king as punishment.

Weird that last week the whole tunnels and everything under the red keep was collapsing, but this week it looks like only 17 bricks fell down. Unfortunately all 17 bricks fell on Jaime and Cersei. Well on everything but his gold hand, conveniently. Still mad that they set up her prophecy for 8 seasons, and then decided to throw it away and she would due from bricks not the Velonquar or w/e.

Everything else was just kind of meh. None of it seemed fitting, but at least most of it wasnt screamingly blatantly stupid.

The point of the council was that when a king dies the families vote a new one in.

Doesn't necessarily mean that's not a potential issue down the road but that did explain that

Agreed on Dothraki and unsullied. That was kind of goofy. I'm guessing the argument is they added more which is entirely possible.

 

[DarthVedder]

Weird that last week the whole tunnels and everything under the red keep was collapsing, but this week it looks like only 17 bricks fell down. Unfortunately all 17 bricks fell on Jaime and Cersei. Well on everything but his gold hand, conveniently. Still mad that they set up her prophecy for 8 seasons, and then decided to throw it away and she would due from bricks not the Velonquar or w/e.

The Valonquar prophecy was never mentioned in the show. Maggie only predicted that Cersei would marry a King and that she would have three kids with golden crowns and golden shrouds. That was all in the show.

 

[Robotech]

The big thing is Jon's inability to lie... Even if they didn't know and had no way of knowing, Jon would have told them.

Yeah, probably, but Jon was sneaky and deceptive in how he killed Dany. However, I'm thinking that he felt it was his duty to kill Dany and that he wanted people to know he did it. But even if he didn't, it wouldn't take a master detective to piece together what happened.

 

[juliansteed]

Weird that last week the whole tunnels and everything under the red keep was collapsing, but this week it looks like only 17 bricks fell down. Unfortunately all 17 bricks fell on Jaime and Cersei. Well on everything but his gold hand, conveniently. Still mad that they set up her prophecy for 8 seasons, and then decided to throw it away and she would due from bricks not the Velonquar or w/e.

The show actually never set up for Valonqar prophecy once. But even if it did, it actually did come true, just not the way many had predicted. Valonqar is gender neutral and it didn't specify that it would be her younger sibling. Daenerys basically killed her. She had 2 older brothers so she qualifies as a valonqar. Or if they want to credit Drogon with the kill, there is a 2/3 chance his egg didn't hatch first. I highly doubt that is what Martin has in mind though so that's probably why the prophecy was left out of the show.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

I suspect the ARYA storyline is simply setting up a backdoor pilot for a GOT spinoff.
They give themselves the option to do it by making her final story lines out of character yet plausible for a future story.

HBO is definitely working on some spinoffs. Prequels would work and seem like the safest bet.
But also a more lighthearted swashbuckling adventure style ARYA in the "new unexplored world" of the West could work.

Her final story arc seems like it did a 180 turn solely for the insurance policy of maybe doing a spinoff if they can work it out with the actress and whatnot.

 

[Camfantasy]

NOT THE SAME. I WANTED MY NATALIE DORMER NUDE WALK OF SHAME. And HBO took that from me. How dare you try to justify their action, Duff!

Saggy titties and eyes too far apart


2/10

 

[theboardref]

Bland has said multiple times he couldn’t rule the North because he was the 3 eyed raven but now he can rule the 6 kingdoms? Ok brah. Seriously should be called Bland, he has been the worst character in the show for quite some time.

 

[theboardref]

I suspect the ARYA storyline is simply setting up a backdoor pilot for a GOT spinoff.
They give themselves the option to do it by making her final story lines out of character yet plausible for a future story.

HBO is definitely working on some spinoffs. Prequels would work and seem like the safest bet.
But also a more lighthearted swashbuckling adventure style ARYA in the "new unexplored world" of the West could work.

Her final story arc seems like it did a 180 turn solely for the insurance policy of maybe doing a spinoff if they can work it out with the actress and whatnot.

Spinoffs are in danger after this season.

 

[PatsFan2003]

How did anybody know jon killed Dany?

I bet he just turned himself in. A little wracked with guilt I think. When talking with Tyrion he was more concerned about whether he did the right thing than his skin

Which would have been worth seeing btw given that they had an hour to kill.