Harper Reported Will Sign With Phils $400 Mill

[jvett77]

If you actually looked at his situational hitting numbers for his career, they are not remarkable at all.... .276/.427/.472 with RISP, OBP is nice but walking with runners on is not generally what you are looking for in your 3/4 hitters. Like many lefties, he does well with a guy on first only. 2 outs RISP, late and close, high leverage, are all disappointing.
Look, Harper is still a productive hitter at .249, but we're talking about a guy looking for a record breaking contract here. His 2015 was a historically great 10 WAR season, but, guess what, Trout has had three with higher WAR while Harper's second best is 5.2 (rookie year!). Again, Bryce's WAA is negative for 3 out of 7 seasons!
If Bryce gets that monster 10 year deal, it will be because he has been a media star since he was in high school and had one truly great year out of seven. He should help anybody, especially if he starts playing defense again, but he sure hasn't built a case for signing the richest contract in history.

Btw, his career line in SF is .164/.305/.284.

You're not being very objective. The late and close stat might mean that the guy does his damage in the early innings. Mike Trout's 2018 late and close was worse that Harper at .136/.363/.271. lol. Trout only had 72, 79 rbi in 2017 and 2018. What a laggard? Nope, he's a $400 mill guy. His overall stats tell you of his value. The breadth and depth of both Harper's and Trout's stats mean that these two are in a category by themselves with few other players. Posting a few of a players narrow "red" stats to make a point is just silly.

Mike Trout 2018
Late and close. 80 PA .136/.363/.271
Runners On .325/.504
Scoring Position. 346/.574
Bases Loaded .250/.429
Lead Off Inning .263/.407
Scoring Posn, 2 out .259/.643

Bryce Harper 2018
Late and close. 100 PA .160/.360/.373
Runners On .303/.470
Scoring Position .290/.458
Bases Loaded .389/.400
Lead Off Inning .240/.359
Scoring Posn, 2 out .373/.568

 

[Indrid Cold]

I've never been a big believer in situational hitting. I think a lot of it just comes down to chance.

I tend to agree with this....I only got into it because somebody was defending Harper by pointing out he hit well with men on last season.

Look, I have rooted for Harper his whole career....I argued early on that I thought it was likely he would be better than Trout. I loved tracking his brilliant 2015 season and thought up all kinds of excuses for his poor 2016 (I do think he had a nagging injury). Cringed when I saw his knee go the wrong way in 2017 and knew 2018 was going to cost him big bucks.

I still cheer for the guy, but I honestly gotta say he does not appear to be on a HOF trajectory at this point. I hope he does it, but he's gotten off track.

The hr derby headband thing was truly disturbing, though... OMG!

 

[steelerssb]

I meant to say It’s odd the both Harper and Machado are still unsigned. But you knew what I meant. Ha, ha.

Anyway, free, daily cheesesteaks in 2019 to the Hoopster who is first to post the announcement of the actual signing of Harper.

Where's my cheesesteak?

 

[Guy Incognito]

Where's my cheesesteak?

 

[Guy Incognito]

 

[eaglesnut]

Holleeee sheeeeeeeet

 

[Taddy Mason]

got home and did a few things, ready to settle in and..... didn't expect to see this news

 

[Indrid Cold]

You're not being very objective. The late and close stat might mean that the guy does his damage in the early innings. Mike Trout's 2018 late and close was worse that Harper at .136/.363/.271. lol. Trout only had 72, 79 rbi in 2017 and 2018. What a laggard? Nope, he's a $400 mill guy. His overall stats tell you of his value. The breadth and depth of both Harper's and Trout's stats mean that these two are in a category by themselves with few other players. Posting a few of a players narrow "red" stats to make a point is just silly.

Mike Trout 2018
Late and close. 80 PA .136/.363/.271
Runners On .325/.504
Scoring Position. 346/.574
Bases Loaded .250/.429
Lead Off Inning .263/.407
Scoring Posn, 2 out .259/.643

Bryce Harper 2018
Late and close. 100 PA .160/.360/.373
Runners On .303/.470
Scoring Position .290/.458
Bases Loaded .389/.400
Lead Off Inning .240/.359
Scoring Posn, 2 out .373/.568

Certainly a lot of small sample size stuff going on with these measurements. Guys like Trout and Harper have to deal with the "don't let this guy beat us" mentality in some key situations and have to be willing and able to leave the bat on the shoulder when they are pitched around.

I am seeing 13 years $330million with the Phils in the news....that park should be a good place for him to hit and I wish him well and will still root for him. I liked to watch the Phils in the Schmidt era but hated how they would beat up on the Cubs....nice of them to give Sandberg to Chicago to make up for it!

AAV lower than what was being discussed in the media, but Harper is locked up until about 40 and he can afford to enjoy life a little with that $$$$. Supposedly no opt out.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

13 years for 330 million. Sounds good to me! That is a little over 25 million a year. have to wait and see if there are trade clauses involved. All in all if he helps us get to a world series or two it might be worth it. Thankful that all the nonsense is over. GO PHILLIEs!

 

[Screamin Eagle]

Managers don't last more than 2-3 seasons. Harper won't base a 10-year decision on who the manager will be for >30% of his contract length.

That may very well be true and in this case I hope so.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Harpers pic when contract ends!

 

[Sparhawk]

Congrats everyone!

 

[Guy Incognito]

Congrats everyone!

 

[mall3013]

Harpers pic when contract ends!View attachment 199384

Very true. I gotta give it to Boras though. That dude can keep a poker face and maxing out his clients. The Phillies lineup is stacked. I still think the bullpen is by far the weakest link. If they can add a couple of decent relievers and find their closer, they will be ready to roll in the NL.

 

[Four4Four]

Wow, they got em!!! He definitely gonna die a phillie

 

[Guy Incognito]

Also, we saved $70 mil, if the thread title is right.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

Very true. I gotta give it to Boras though. That dude can keep a poker face and maxing out his clients. The Phillies lineup is stacked. I still think the bullpen is by far the weakest link. If they can add a couple of decent relievers and find their closer, they will be ready to roll in the NL.

I think the bullpen looks pretty strong.

 

[mall3013]

I think the bullpen looks pretty strong.

I guess we will see. The lineup is deadly. I would hate to be an opposing pitcher facing this lineup.

 

[navamind]

Harpers pic when contract ends!View attachment 199384

Wrong, that's a picture of Tim Wakefield in 2011.

 

[jvett77]

Where's my cheesesteak?

Congratulation! I was out grocery shopping and missed the big surprise. Listen, drop by Geno’s on Passyunk any day of the week and pick up unlimited cheesesteaks for you and your family. Tell’em jvett sent you. Good luck, dude!