Denver and Baltimore’s super bow odds

[SteelersPride]

 

[SteelersPride]

So the team getting rid of Flacco increased their odds, the team getting Flacco decreased them

 

[Dude]

Super bow, hmm, is that like the Superb owl?
j/k

 

[SteelersPride]

Damn phone

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

I think Denver is gonna be better with Flacco... Not sure they're gonna be Super Bowl bound, but with some of the QB play they've had Flacco is a step up and can do some good things for them...

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Damn phone

Resistance is futile.....

 

[SteelersPride]

I think Denver is gonna be better with Flacco... Not sure they're gonna be Super Bowl bound, but with some of the QB play they've had Flacco is a step up and can do some good things for them...

Flacco’s numbers are terrible

See in here

https://es.pn/2S0xcGu

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I think Denver is gonna be better with Flacco... Not sure they're gonna be Super Bowl bound, but with some of the QB play they've had Flacco is a step up and can do some good things for them...

That’s really the problem here. They went from 3rd in the AFCW, to still clearly the 3rd best TTL team in the AFCW. They need a Flacco that hasn’t shown up in years to make this work, and worse yet, they will have still be blowing some amount of dead money to make this happen with Keenum. Have to think there’s some stock being put into a scheme fit; wasn’t that the same brand of rhetoric with Keenum, however?

 

[Duffman]

That’s really the problem here. They went from 3rd in the AFCW, to still clearly the 3rd best TTL team in the AFCW. They need a Flacco that hasn’t shown up in years to make this work, and worse yet, they will have still be blowing some amount of dead money to make this happen with Keenum. Have to think there’s some stock being put into a scheme fit; wasn’t that the same brand of rhetoric with Keenum, however?

Read @cdumler7 post on how this isn’t the huge money waste certain people think it will be. Especially if Flacco restructures which is highly likely.

Also Keenum fit the scheme last year but doesn’t fit this one, Flacco does.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Read @cdumler7 post on how this isn’t the huge money waste certain people think it will be. Especially if Flacco restructures which is highly likely.

Also Keenum fit the scheme last year but doesn’t fit this one, Flacco does.

Even if it’s like 3M in net, it’s still 3M down the tubes plus a 4th round pick for a player who isn’t likely to be the difference between making and not making the playoffs; let alone SB contention.

The main QB issue is spending the money they did on sub-mediocre QB play to begin with. It is compounding last offseason’s mistake- and that definitely is not 3M.

 

[Duffman]

Even if it’s like 3M in net, it’s still 3M down the tubes plus a 4th round pick for a player who isn’t likely to be the difference between making and not making the playoffs; let alone SB contention.

The main QB issue is spending the money they did on sub-mediocre QB play to begin with. It is compounding last offseason’s mistake- and that definitely is not 3M.

Well they got a 4th for DT so if Denver gives up a 4th they don’t really lose anything. Plus if Denver picks Lock in the draft which they’re strongly tied too he is pretty similar to Flacco so if Flacco spends the year as the starter while also teaching Lock to take over the following year or the year after it’s not the worst deal.

 

[MileHigh64]

Will probably be best to grade this trade after it's completed in March, details of contracts are ironed out and publicized, free agency is a month old and the 2019 NFL draft is complete. The Broncos have some sort of plan here and I highly doubt that Flacco is the cornerstone of that plan.

 

[SteelersPride]

Yeah

Well they got a 4th for DT so if Denver gives up a 4th they don’t really lose anything. Plus if Denver picks Lock in the draft which they’re strongly tied too he is pretty similar to Flacco so if Flacco spends the year as the starter while also teaching Lock to take over the following year or the year after it’s not the worst deal.

Well yes u lost a 4th that u had. And do u reallybtrust lock to be good? For one Elway likes him, second he compares to flacco, third he stunk every time he played decent defenses

 

[Across The Field]

I still think they would've been better off to stick with Keenum with his one year left and developed a rookie QB for a year. Even if Flacco restructures his deal, he's just not good. In all honesty, I thought Denver would wait to see what happens with Andy Dalton, as I think he could've fit their offense reasonably well and wasn't as much of a cap hit, and I bet Cincinnati would've given him up for less than a 4th.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Flacco’s numbers are terrible

See in here

https://es.pn/2S0xcGu

He's been bad lately sure, but he's also been good in the past, so maybe the new scenery, new start is what he needs...

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

That’s really the problem here. They went from 3rd in the AFCW, to still clearly the 3rd best TTL team in the AFCW. They need a Flacco that hasn’t shown up in years to make this work, and worse yet, they will have still be blowing some amount of dead money to make this happen with Keenum. Have to think there’s some stock being put into a scheme fit; wasn’t that the same brand of rhetoric with Keenum, however?

That's the gamble, will he become the old Flacco who's stepped up, or has he lost it... time will tell ...

 

[SteelersPride]

He's been bad lately sure, but he's also been good in the past, so maybe the new scenery, new start is what he needs...

Bad since the Super Bowl, stats back it up

 

[Duffman]

Yeah
Well yes u lost a 4th that u had. And do u reallybtrust lock to be good? For one Elway likes him, second he compares to flacco, third he stunk every time he played decent defenses

They lost a 4th they got for a guy they were going to cut at the end of the year anyway. So lose DT and get nothing or trade DT for a pick that they’ve now traded. Wouldn’t really call that a loss.

Also Lock is a gamble but so is Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Wentz, Goff, etc you get my point. All of those guys have looked great at times and yet all have their bad moments bust talk.

 

[SteelersPride]

Flacco has posted exactly one above-average season by passer rating or net yards per attempt since his incredible run to the Super Bowl in 2012. His Total QBR over that six-year stretch is 53.8; among the 20 passers with 2,000 or more pass attempts over that time frame, the only quarterbacks Flacco beats out are Eli Manning, Ryan Tannehill, Derek Carrand Blake Bortles. (Keenum's QBR over that time on 1,844 attempts is 51.5.)

 

[SteelersPride]

They lost a 4th they got for a guy they were going to cut at the end of the year anyway. So lose DT and get nothing or trade DT for a pick that they’ve now traded. Wouldn’t really call that a loss.

Also Lock is a gamble but so is Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Wentz, Goff, etc you get my point. All of those guys have looked great at times and yet all have their bad moments bust talk.

Yes but darnold wentz and Goff and even Rosen had more of a pedigree not so much Allen, well definitely not Allen, and look Allen can’t pass, can scramble, but can’t pass