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[ehb5]

its not against the law to meet with anyone

the fact is they have nothing except BS from the FBI DOJ and the HRC campaign

So anything that doesn't fit your narrative is nothing?

Meanwhile you'll believe whatever unsourced conspriacy theories you hear about people you don't like?

 

[ehb5]

Here is the thing.. you are willing to buy into a conspiracy theory that spans through multiple levels of the government to include, the DOJ, FBI, Department of state and connection or complicity by not one, but two Presidents... Spanning over damn near 20 years.

But the idea that a guy who has been trying to build and make money in Russia for the last 30 years, who has borrowed money from Russians, and was in the building while his children met with Russians during his Presidential run..... Couldnt possibly in any way shape or form be compromised.

This is honestly the point at which this discussion is lost.

@skinsdad62 already made up his mind.

If it's bad about Hillary, Comey, Mueller (who is a republican respected by both sides)... Then it's true.

If it's bad about Trump... Then it's a lie.

That's it. That's what constitutes truth to some people. Facts be damned.

What's the point in trying to convince somebody who thinks that way?

 

[ehb5]

Defraud? In what way?

Meeting with Russians is not a crime.

Getting dirt is not a crime.

Trump has the Constitutional power to fire anybody in the executive branch.

Yeah all that's just on the up and up. Why would people possibly think all this was concerning??

Trump looks clean as a whistle. Honestly I bet Obama just set him up so he would look bad.

 

[ehb5]

Were the campaign money ? Not proven but his lawyer could be in trouble ? But then again we all know the mueller investigation techniques . Right now he has 2 witnesses that won’t lie for him

Well Cohen plead guilty so....

Also good to know that if it's not considered "campaign money" that your fine with the president paying off a **** star he had an affair with in order to keep it secret from the American people so he can win an election.

Some election worker you must be.

 

[ehb5]

And that means nothing but liberal double talk . The fraud came from HRC and her campaign

This is it right here folks.

Just deny and blame Hillary.

Facts don't matter to some people.

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[ehb5]

Oh look another far right source that routinely makes things up.

Why is it so hard for you to find a legitimate source to defend anything you say?

 

[skinsdad62]

Oh look another far right source that routinely makes things up.

Why is it so hard for you to find a legitimate source to defend anything you say?

oh well you know i have posted these things and they are sourced only to have you not respond for a long period of time

all of these things you can read from the original court documents or from congress or from the IG reports doesnt get anymore legitimate then that

 

[ehb5]

oh well you know i have posted these things and they are sourced only to have you not respond for a long period of time

all of these things you can read from the original court documents or from congress or from the IG reports doesnt get anymore legitimate then that

Uhhh sorry no you haven't.

You post unsourced conspiracy theories.

The very few times you provide sources they are immediately shown to be far right organizations with a history of making things up and frequently linked to hate groups.

It shouldn't be this hard for you to come up with legit sources.

 

[Sharkinva]

Uhhh sorry no you haven't.

You post unsourced conspiracy theories.

The very few times you provide sources they are immediately shown to be far right organizations with a history of making things up and frequently linked to hate groups.

It shouldn't be this hard for you to come up with legit sources.

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A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, overt propaganda, poor or no sourcing to credible information and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the notes section for that source. See all Questionable sources.

Bias: Extreme Right, Conspiracy, Propaganda

History

Founded in 1994 by Larry Klayman, Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate alleged misconduct by government officials. They primarily target Democrats such as the Clinton’s, Obama and climate scientists as they label climate science, “fraud science.” Judicial Watch has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, with a “vast majority” of their lawsuits dismissed. They describe themselves as “a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.” The current President of JW is Tom Fitton.

Funded by / Ownership

Judicial Watch is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization with contributions received from individuals, foundations, and corporations. According to Sourcewatch, JW receives funding from prominent right wing organizations such as the Carthage Foundation and Scafie Foundation.

Analysis / Bias

Judicial Watch reports news on their website with the use of strong emotional language that is usually pro-right or anti-left. Common topics covered are anti-immigration, in which they highlight crimes committed by illegal immigrants such as this: Busy Month for Illegal Immigrants Committing Heinous Crimes or dedicating an entire website to exposing former President Obama’s alleged IRS scandal. They have also promoted debunked conspiracy theories such as this. Further, the founder of JW, Larry Klayman recently promoted the conspiracythat the Clinton’s were killing people. In general the majority of content and story selection is anti-left.

A factual search reveals a horrible track record with fact checking. Below is a small sample of their failed fact checks by IFCN fact checkers

• DHS Quietly Moving, Releasing ‘Vanloads’ of ‘Illegal Aliens’ Away from Border – FALSE
• Has Nancy Pelosi spent $100,000 on food, booze and “partying” during her air travel? – FALSE
• Judicial Watch says ISIS operating a camp in Mexico–near El Paso – FALSE
• ‘Islamic Refugee’ with Gas Pipeline Plans Arrested in New Mexico Border County – FALSE
• Did the IRS ‘Fast Track’ Tax-Exempt Status for ‘After School Satan’ Clubs? – FALSE

Overall, we rate Judicial Watch Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracy theories and a very poor fact check record. (7/19/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 7/23/2018)

 

[ehb5]

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Founded in 1994 by Larry Klayman, Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate alleged misconduct by government officials. They primarily target Democrats such as the Clinton’s, Obama and climate scientists as they label climate science, “fraud science.” Judicial Watch has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, with a “vast majority” of their lawsuits dismissed. They describe themselves as “a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.” The current President of JW is Tom Fitton.

Funded by / Ownership

Judicial Watch is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization with contributions received from individuals, foundations, and corporations. According to Sourcewatch, JW receives funding from prominent right wing organizations such as the Carthage Foundation and Scafie Foundation.

Analysis / Bias

Judicial Watch reports news on their website with the use of strong emotional language that is usually pro-right or anti-left. Common topics covered are anti-immigration, in which they highlight crimes committed by illegal immigrants such as this: Busy Month for Illegal Immigrants Committing Heinous Crimes or dedicating an entire website to exposing former President Obama’s alleged IRS scandal. They have also promoted debunked conspiracy theories such as this. Further, the founder of JW, Larry Klayman recently promoted the conspiracythat the Clinton’s were killing people. In general the majority of content and story selection is anti-left.

A factual search reveals a horrible track record with fact checking. Below is a small sample of their failed fact checks by IFCN fact checkers

• DHS Quietly Moving, Releasing ‘Vanloads’ of ‘Illegal Aliens’ Away from Border – FALSE
• Has Nancy Pelosi spent $100,000 on food, booze and “partying” during her air travel? – FALSE
• Judicial Watch says ISIS operating a camp in Mexico–near El Paso – FALSE
• ‘Islamic Refugee’ with Gas Pipeline Plans Arrested in New Mexico Border County – FALSE
• Did the IRS ‘Fast Track’ Tax-Exempt Status for ‘After School Satan’ Clubs? – FALSE

Overall, we rate Judicial Watch Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracy theories and a very poor fact check record. (7/19/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 7/23/2018)

That's so weird how that keeps happening. I bet it's just all a big coincidence.

Or wait... Maybe... Just maybe...

The stories @skinsdad62 likes to tell are all BS.

 

[skinsdad62]

That's so weird how that keeps happening. I bet it's just all a big coincidence.

Or wait... Maybe... Just maybe...

The stories @skinsdad62 likes to tell are all BS.

done by whom ? snopes ??

 

[skinsdad62]

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Bias: Extreme Right, Conspiracy, Propaganda

History

Founded in 1994 by Larry Klayman, Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate alleged misconduct by government officials. They primarily target Democrats such as the Clinton’s, Obama and climate scientists as they label climate science, “fraud science.” Judicial Watch has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, with a “vast majority” of their lawsuits dismissed. They describe themselves as “a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.” The current President of JW is Tom Fitton.

Funded by / Ownership

Judicial Watch is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization with contributions received from individuals, foundations, and corporations. According to Sourcewatch, JW receives funding from prominent right wing organizations such as the Carthage Foundation and Scafie Foundation.

Analysis / Bias

Judicial Watch reports news on their website with the use of strong emotional language that is usually pro-right or anti-left. Common topics covered are anti-immigration, in which they highlight crimes committed by illegal immigrants such as this: Busy Month for Illegal Immigrants Committing Heinous Crimes or dedicating an entire website to exposing former President Obama’s alleged IRS scandal. They have also promoted debunked conspiracy theories such as this. Further, the founder of JW, Larry Klayman recently promoted the conspiracythat the Clinton’s were killing people. In general the majority of content and story selection is anti-left.

A factual search reveals a horrible track record with fact checking. Below is a small sample of their failed fact checks by IFCN fact checkers

• DHS Quietly Moving, Releasing ‘Vanloads’ of ‘Illegal Aliens’ Away from Border – FALSE
• Has Nancy Pelosi spent $100,000 on food, booze and “partying” during her air travel? – FALSE
• Judicial Watch says ISIS operating a camp in Mexico–near El Paso – FALSE
• ‘Islamic Refugee’ with Gas Pipeline Plans Arrested in New Mexico Border County – FALSE
• Did the IRS ‘Fast Track’ Tax-Exempt Status for ‘After School Satan’ Clubs? – FALSE

Overall, we rate Judicial Watch Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracy theories and a very poor fact check record. (7/19/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 7/23/2018)

again the documents are there from the IG report , congressional testimony , fisa court filings . which you can find easily on the internet

 

[ehb5]

again the documents are there from the IG report , congressional testimony , fisa court filings . which you can find easily on the internet

Yes exactly.

They don't say what you think they say.

 

[skinsdad62]

Yes exactly.

They don't say what you think they say.

yes they do and have been posted here in this thread before i believe

 

[Sharkinva]

again the documents are there from the IG report , congressional testimony , fisa court filings . which you can find easily on the internet

The problem is, the places you are siting have a habit of putting their own (usually extreme right) spin on them.

Judicial Watch, Judicial Crisis Network, The Heritage Foundation and the NAtional Policy Institute tend to do alot of this hard right bias BS. Rarely will you see them point out things like per capita Immigrants (and especially undocumented Immigrants) tend to commit LESS crime than citizens.

 

[ehb5]

yes they do and have been posted here in this thread before i believe

So if they do then show that. Post these documents and show where they prove your theories. Post some reputable supporting links.

Until you do that you're a mad conspiracy theorist on the internet. No difference between you and a flat earther or 9/11 truther until you can provide legitimate support for your theories.

 

[gkekoa]

What?

You're arguing one race is worse off because of its own inherent selfishness.

What does that have to do with this?

Actually, I said it wasn’t inherent.

One race is worse off because more individuals have made poor choices.

You really don’t get individuality do you?

 

[ehb5]

Actually, I said it wasn’t inherent.

One race is worse off because more individuals have made poor choices.

You really don’t get individuality do you?

Aaand now we're back where we started with you refusing to offer any explanation for why one race has more of a problem with this than another.

 

[skinsdad62]

So if they do then show that. Post these documents and show where they prove your theories. Post some reputable supporting links.

Until you do that you're a mad conspiracy theorist on the internet. No difference between you and a flat earther or 9/11 truther until you can provide legitimate support for your theories.

i have done this before with you , it went nowhere . its in this thread just go back and look