Is this the end of the Paul Johnson/triple option era at Georgia Tech?

[Chewbaccer]

I don’t blame you, although if we throw out the Mark Richt years, UGA is 1-1 against Paul Johnson.

I'll take that. Nick Saban lost to UL Monroe his first year at Bama.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

But GT has kinda made their bed with the triple option, but if they want to get out of it, the sooner they get the transition started, the better off they will be. Paul Johnson isn't a spring chicken either, what's their plans when he retires? Just hire the Navy or Army coach?

Niumatalolo has actually coached Navy ever since Johnson took over at GT. Currently I can't see him leaving, especially not for a job his old boss was at.

Monken from Army could be a great fit, he was at Georgia Southern before Army.

 

[belcherboy]

But GT has kinda made their bed with the triple option, but if they want to get out of it, the sooner they get the transition started, the better off they will be. Paul Johnson isn't a spring chicken either, what's their plans when he retires? Just hire the Navy or Army coach?

I agree. I asked the GT fan at work what the contract buy out would be. He immediately said $4 million. So he was looking it up this weekend.

Seems like an easy choice to me. But fans better be ready for some tough years in Atlanta if they change the system. A good young coach could turn it around in a few years imo. It would still be tough competing with Auburn, UGA, and Alabama in regional recruiting though.

 

[belcherboy]

Niumatalolo has actually coached Navy ever since Johnson took over at GT. Currently I can't see him leaving, especially not for a job his old boss was at.

Monken from Army could be a great fit, he was at Georgia Southern before Army.

Paul Johnson is still the best coach for the triple option imo. So why would GT fire him and hire a lesser version of him?

If they drop PJ, they need to go in a different football system imo. That is the only way they would have a shot at the better athletes. It will be a long road, but they could get there.

 

[The Q]

Paul Johnson is still the best coach for the triple option imo. So why would GT fire him and hire a lesser version of him?

If they drop PJ, they need to go in a different football system imo. That is the only way they would have a shot at the better athletes. It will be a long road, but they could get there.

Brett Bielema?

Guy has had success in a run first system.

Probably about as seamless a transition as you'll get.

He's worth a call at least.

 

[Chewbaccer]

I agree. I asked the GT fan at work what the contract buy out would be. He immediately said $4 million. So he was looking it up this weekend.

Seems like an easy choice to me. But fans better be ready for some tough years in Atlanta if they change the system. A good young coach could turn it around in a few years imo. It would still be tough competing with Auburn, UGA, and Alabama in regional recruiting though.

They'll never consistently be as good as the major programs around them due to the academic requirements, but if they ran a more conventional offense, they would get their share of local talent and would be able to compete on their up years. Chan Gailey didn't do much with it, but he got some damn good players to play there.

 

[rmilia1]

And why is that bad? I’m talking long term. It depends if GT wants to stay in a system that limits their ability at true success. PJ isn’t young, so they have to cross this bridge eventually, and their next triple threat coach is likely not to be nearly as good. PJ is probably the best triple option coach in the history of college football (that’s not saying a lot as there are very few of them)

Its not always bad but in cfb your programs appeal can be fleeting. Right now at least GT has a niche. If they go conventional they're pretty much Minnesota or Pitt

 

[belcherboy]

Its not always bad but in cfb your programs appeal can be fleeting. Right now at least GT has a niche. If they go conventional they're pretty much Minnesota or Pitt

Potentially, but they have such a deep history compared to those two teams, and are located in a VERY popular warm weather city. Plus, they are in a CRAZY rich in talent recruiting state.

 

[Camfantasy]

please get this son of a bitch out of the coastal


----signed every defensive lineman's knees in the ACC

 

[Camfantasy]

Potentially, but they have such a deep history compared to those two teams, and are located in a VERY popular warm weather city. Plus, they are in a CRAZY rich in talent recruiting state.

GT has way more potential than Minnesota or Pitt. They just need a good coach and an image adjustment.

 

[Chewbaccer]

GT has way more potential than Minnesota or Pitt. They just need a good coach and an image adjustment.

They finally broke away from Russell Athletic gear and went with Adidas this year and upgraded what were some of the worst locker room facilities in major college athletics this year.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

Paul Johnson is still the best coach for the triple option imo. So why would GT fire him and hire a lesser version of him?

If they drop PJ, they need to go in a different football system imo. That is the only way they would have a shot at the better athletes. It will be a long road, but they could get there.

Depending on how this year goes Willie Fritz could be a good fit, he took over at Georgia Southern after Monken left and moved to more of an option offense out of the spread and it worked very well. So far it hasn't worked as well at Tulane this year was supposed to be the year they could make progress but they're 1-2 with a game against Ohio State next. However, their two losses are against solid Wake Forest and UAB teams.

 

[Camfantasy]

They finally broke away from Russell Athletic gear and went with Adidas this year and upgraded what were some of the worst locker room facilities in major college athletics this year.

And there-in lies the problem. Their administration doesn't give much of a shit about sports outside of the bare minimum and it shows all over their football program in antique facilities, athletic gear, and offenses that haven't been popular since @olympicoscar was in high school.

they can't even take their home field without a fucking Model T chaperoning them

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

Navy's option will always be better.

 

[Camfantasy]

It's actually a damn shame and a waste of a good situation really.

GT has a good degree they can sell, with good weather, a deep as fuck recruiting back yard, and probably the top (or one of the top) destinations in America for young black males. That is and always has been a good situation that was pissed right down the drain.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

And there-in lies the problem. Their administration doesn't give much of a shit about sports outside of the bare minimum and it shows all over their football program in antique facilities, athletic gear, and offenses that haven't been popular since @olympicoscar was in high school.

they can't even take their home field without a fucking Model T chaperoning them

In other words Paul Johnson is around for another decade at least

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

And there-in lies the problem. Their administration doesn't give much of a shit about sports outside of the bare minimum and it shows all over their football program in antique facilities, athletic gear, and offenses that haven't been popular since @olympicoscar was in high school.

they can't even take their home field without a fucking Model T chaperoning them

The funny thing is they could at least market themselves as a program with a classic style but they don't even do that, unless of course we aren't seeing them because they're advertising on newspapers and using pigeons to send out their recruiting flyers.

 

[Camfantasy]

In other words Paul Johnson is around for another decade at least

probably so for real

Paul Johnson is actually one of the best coaches in the ACC to me, and probably one of the best X's and O's guys in the country..... but you can fucking not take anything close to a next step while running the triple option at a power 5 school. You can not sell national relevancy at all and you can not sell an NFL future. You are stuck with taking guys with no serious NFL aspirations and you can't land players that other P5 schools actually want because of that.

 

[GoldRusher]

Yeah, I think so. While GT isn't a brand name in college football, they're located in SEC country and right in downtown Atlanta. I think the right coach could come in and eventually turn it into a pretty good program.

I agree, with todays offenses GT wouldn't have a problem at all fielding a really potent offense and chances are they could pull in enough talent to field at least an ok defense like most spread teams.

If it were somewhere else other than Atlanta GA then maybe keep him forever but in todays game the triple option is foreign to alot of top shelf talent and GT finds thenselves kind of living in the past and imo hindering themselves from reaching their full potential.

If we were talkin say.... Indiana, Illinois, Kansas, Kansas State (post Snyder) ect. Then Id say no, you stay patient with PJ or coach Ken ect. , take the bad years and wait on the good to happen every 2-3 years or so when you are loaded with upperclassmen ect. And enjoy those rides because thats about as good as its gonna get.

I’m not a huge fan of his but he does know the recruiting game and cant help but wonder what Kiffin would do in Atlanta?

 

[GoldRusher]

From what I've heard, PJ has had to fight hard to get the restrictions a lifted a little for student athletes at GT. The school leadership does not like to make exceptions for sports. They gave PJ a little more room to bring in a few more questionable academic athletes just a few years ago. (this is what a GT insider told me) They basically said, "if these kids screw up, we will go back to the previous restrictions...so recruit wisely". That would be a tough position for a coach to recruit under IMO...if it is true.

Not all that different than Notre Dame or Stanford ect. Though from my understanding.