I'm going to be honest about Seattle

[chf]

Wilson is a great QB,

All you had to say. Exactly. Thus rebuilds are easier.

 

[SeattleCoug]

Blair Walsh is anything but a real kicker.

Exactly. Pretty nuts that despite all the issues they had on both sides of the ball, they are at least an 11 win team last year with a real kicker. Thinking specifically the Washington and Arizona game. You could throw in the Falcons game but I think Atlanta was the better team so I don't count that one as much.

 

[Battlelyon]

The Hawks had a brutal schedule down the stretch even though at one point they were 8-4, before ending with the Cards, they played the Falcons, @49ers, Eagles, @Jags, Rams, @Cowboys in consecutive weeks. Brutal stretch for any team. They competed well, won some, lost some, was in every game except Rams game. This season like any other season is determined by Wilson's health, he keeps taking a beat but keeps starting. Eventually your body can only take so much. I'm thinking the Hawks will get their oline fixed about the time Wilson will call it a career.

 

[Racer8825]

Exactly. Pretty nuts that despite all the issues they had on both sides of the ball, they are at least an 11 win team last year with a real kicker. Thinking specifically the Washington and Arizona game. You could throw in the Falcons game but I think Atlanta was the better team so I don't count that one as much.

No more excuses now that we have a real kicker in Janikowski.

 

[chf]

Heh.

 

[Southieinnc]

The wheels are gonna fall off next year. I don't see how they survive that schedule against the vikings, packers, lions, chargers, chiefs, raiders, panthers, and cowboys. Not to mention their own division with two emerging teams and they can't even sweep the other one. No one wants to even think about it but Seattle will be below .500.

Why stop there?

New Orleans Saints Not Projected to Repeat 2017 Success

 

[Jikkle]

Seattle isn't as good of a team that started 2017 but they aren't as bad of a team that finished 2017.

I see them as a 7 to 8 win kind of team and as long as Wilson is there they'll be competitive and respectable.

The offensive line will play better under Solari but it wasn't an immensely talented group before and Solari isn't going to magically fix that.

When it comes to receiving threats it's Baldwin and just some guys. Nothing at TE and Lockett doesn't seem quite the same after his broken leg.

Penny should do well for them and the RB depth is pretty decent but I just don't think the O line will be dominant enough to run the ball like they clearly want to do.

Schottenheimer was a terrible hire and all they did was replace Bevel with someone at best will be a lateral move but likely a step-down.

Defensively they have the cornerstones of Wagner and Thomas but the LOB days are definitely dead. There is talent on the defensive front with guys like Frank Clark but there really isn't a guy that's just dominant upfront.

CBs should be solid but there isn't much depth and like the defensive front there isn't that dominant shut down kind of guy like they had with Sherman.

Norton at DC was another questionable hire. He's a fantastic linebackers coach but so far he's shown he isn't a great DC. The Raiders defense got better after he got fired which is a big red flag there. Pete is heavily involved in the defense so it's not as impactful as the Schottenheimer hire but I don't think Norton is an upgrade at the position.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Wilson being a great QB is the only reason anyone should hesitate about hammering Seattle with their predictions. A lot of QB's would finish 4-12 with what the Seahawks are throwing out there next year.

 

[Racer8825]

Seattle isn't as good of a team that started 2017 but they aren't as bad of a team that finished 2017.

I see them as a 7 to 8 win kind of team and as long as Wilson is there they'll be competitive and respectable.

The offensive line will play better under Solari but it wasn't an immensely talented group before and Solari isn't going to magically fix that.

When it comes to receiving threats it's Baldwin and just some guys. Nothing at TE and Lockett doesn't seem quite the same after his broken leg.

Penny should do well for them and the RB depth is pretty decent but I just don't think the O line will be dominant enough to run the ball like they clearly want to do.

Schottenheimer was a terrible hire and all they did was replace Bevel with someone at best will be a lateral move but likely a step-down.

Defensively they have the cornerstones of Wagner and Thomas but the LOB days are definitely dead. There is talent on the defensive front with guys like Frank Clark but there really isn't a guy that's just dominant upfront.

CBs should be solid but there isn't much depth and like the defensive front there isn't that dominant shut down kind of guy like they had with Sherman.

Norton at DC was another questionable hire. He's a fantastic linebackers coach but so far he's shown he isn't a great DC. The Raiders defense got better after he got fired which is a big red flag there. Pete is heavily involved in the defense so it's not as impactful as the Schottenheimer hire but I don't think Norton is an upgrade at the position.

As I've mentioned, it doesn't matter who the players are along the offensive line. It takes a great coach to get the very best out of his players. That's what Solari brings to the table.

Our offense can't get any worse with Schottenheimer calling the plays can it?

 

[seattlefan75]

This is dumb Russell Wilson has had a pro bowl season every year since being in the league when was the last time a team with a pro bowl QB that finished the season all 16 games win only 4-5 games?

AT A MINIMUM the seahawks will win 8 games with Wilson under center nothing less. try and change my mind I dare you.

Lastly all our divisional opponents have the same "brutal" schedule as us so they are in just as much of an uphill climb

 

[LambeauLegs]

Why stop there?

New Orleans Saints Not Projected to Repeat 2017 Success

This would be great news with the Packers getting the Saints 1st round pick next year.

 

[Battlelyon]

This is dumb Russell Wilson has had a pro bowl season every year since being in the league when was the last time a team with a pro bowl QB that finished the season all 16 games win only 4-5 games?

Philip Rivers in 2016

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I agree. The rams are clearly the best team in that division

 

[Pattersonca65]

I agree. The rams are clearly the best team in that division

I don't think there is any disputing that. The Rams are clearly no #1 on the West. For the rest of NFC West there will be a number of things can happen. Injuries are another issue with the remaining teams. I don't see any of the remaining teams strong enough to whether injury issues.

 

[seattlefan75]

Philip Rivers in 2016

yeah threw 21 Ints and had 9 fumbles that really applies to Russell Wilson who led the entire league in TDs with no offensive line and no run game help. Keep fishing

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Remove players from the equation that don't produce and plug in guys who have the heart to go out and play well for you.

you say this like it’s an easy thing to do for teams....

 

[Racer8825]

you say this like it’s an easy thing to do for teams....

That's why during training camp, alot of teams hold open competitions for many positions on their roster such as QB RB and WR just to name a few. Often times those open competition spill over into the preseason games where coaches can really gauge the talent of their players.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

All you had to say. Exactly. Thus rebuilds are easier.

If you think getting rid of superstar talent over the years (Lynch, Sherman, Bennett, etc) and replacing them with lesser players is an effective rebuild or retool, you are crazy. That’s essentially what you are trying to get me to believe, without saying it. You have a very good QB. I shouldn’t have said great, that implies Rodgers/Brady level. The Seahawks lost a lot of talent. They’re already starting to lose ground on everybody else.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

That's why during training camp, alot of teams hold open competitions for many positions on their roster such as QB RB and WR just to name a few. Often times those open competition spill over into the preseason games where coaches can really gauge the talent of their players.

Yeah.... that happens to every team. I don’t know why it needs to be explained...

 

[Racer8825]

If you think getting rid of superstar talent over the years (Lynch, Sherman, Bennett, etc) and replacing them with lesser players is an effective rebuild or retool, you are crazy. That’s essentially what you are trying to get me to believe, without saying it. You have a very good QB. I shouldn’t have said great, that implies Rodgers/Brady level. The Seahawks lost a lot of talent. They’re already starting to lose ground on everybody else.

I'm gonna say it again. We don't have to have the cream of the crop talent to be a successful team. All we need is a great coaching staff who will get the best out of what they have to work with. Don't lose faith in Pete and the rest of the coaches before the season even begins.