i expect Weapons for Redskins

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

during Fa and draft i expect weapons to help Alex Smith There is a real Thing called a PR So i thought this Over i think we are going to ignore the DLINE high in the draft which i think its wrong i have a feelings its going to be a heavy Offenseive rebuild in FA and Draft WIN OR LOSE the PR of this is simple If they dont win with alex Bruce and company are done

 

[Breed]

There are some good to better than decent imo alternatives in FA for a NG/DT or two. DeQuan Jones of the Titans should be the 1st choice if the Skins go that (the FA) route. He's only 26 and has 3 seasons of being a starter under his belt.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

during Fa and draft i expect weapons to help Alex Smith There is a real Thing called a PR So i thought this Over i think we are going to ignore the DLINE high in the draft which i think its wrong i have a feelings its going to be a heavy Offenseive rebuild in FA and Draft WIN OR LOSE the PR of this is simple If they dont win with alex Bruce and company are done

Pure conjecture & nonsense on your part. First of all - as stated numerous times & until proven otherwise - Allen has a long term future w/ Skins in spite of results since he is a key player in finding a new stadium - doubt he is fired anytime soon barring a complete meltdown (& maybe not even then).

As for who they pick - who knows. Like last offseason I am guessing that they still use a scouting service w/ ties to the former FO so it is not as if Allen is calling all of the shots (perhaps he & Snyder did w/ Cousins but that doesn't mean that this applies across the bd).

Lets just wait & see - it is entirely possible that they go in all sorts of direction in the draft. Example - they could go heavy on offense yet pick a stud defensive player if he is available with their 1st rd pick. We will see.

 

[Skins2021]

Pure conjecture & nonsense on your part. First of all - as stated numerous times & until proven otherwise - Allen has a long term future w/ Skins in spite of results since he is a key player in finding a new stadium - doubt he is fired anytime soon barring a complete meltdown (& maybe not even then).

As for who they pick - who knows. Like last offseason I am guessing that they still use a scouting service w/ ties to the former FO so it is not as if Allen is calling all of the shots (perhaps he & Snyder did w/ Cousins but that doesn't mean that this applies across the bd).

Lets just wait & see - it is entirely possible that they go in all sorts of direction in the draft. Example - they could go heavy on offense yet pick a stud defensive player if he is available with their 1st rd pick. We will see.

Skins have holes at LG, Dline, ILB, WR, RB, CB, and S

They are in a good position to take BPA

 

[Breed]

Oh, and what's that Real thing or PR of which you speak, @coach_spurrier_1

And speaaking of FAs. Who's also read that Zach Brown wants to be paid in the neighborhood of Bobby Wagner and Luke K? Cuz if that's accurate, let him test the FA waters and possibly come back down to reality or sign elsewhere. Cuz he's not the caliber player of a Wagner or LK.

 

[Skins2021]

In terms of weapons ideally the skins will sign either Allen Robinson or Sammy Watkins and may double down on a burner such as Wallace, Richardson, or Brown.

I think they SHOULD do that with preference to Robinson. Calvin Ridley and Kirk may be more suited for the slot and I am not high on James Washington whatsoever and Sutton I honestly dont know enough about.

I think the Skins may either be aggressive in F/A and spend recklessly to do what they didnt do with Cousins which is to put Alex Smith in a position to succeed, while also selling hope, tickets, and jerseys

or

They can remain super quiet. Resign their own, possibly explore the trade market, and sign cut players who all wouldnt count against the compensatory formula. Then they can try to spin and sell the added compensatory picks to fans when justifying the Cousins deal.

Either way I think whatever direction they go will be motivated by spite for Kirk Cousins, and an attempt to convince themselves and fans that they did the right thing.

 

[gkekoa]

In terms of weapons ideally the skins will sign either Allen Robinson or Sammy Watkins and may double down on a burner such as Wallace, Richardson, or Brown.

I think they SHOULD do that with preference to Robinson. Calvin Ridley and Kirk may be more suited for the slot and I am not high on James Washington whatsoever and Sutton I honestly dont know enough about.

I think the Skins may either be aggressive in F/A and spend recklessly to do what they didnt do with Cousins which is to put Alex Smith in a position to succeed, while also selling hope, tickets, and jerseys

or

They can remain super quiet. Resign their own, possibly explore the trade market, and sign cut players who all wouldnt count against the compensatory formula. Then they can try to spin and sell the added compensatory picks to fans when justifying the Cousins deal.

Either way I think whatever direction they go will be motivated by spite for Kirk Cousins, and an attempt to convince themselves and fans that they did the right thing.

They have to be aggressive in FA to justify their trade.

 

[Skins2021]

They have to be aggressive in FA to justify their trade.

no matter what they do the motivation will be to justify the trade.

 

[gkekoa]

no matter what they do the motivation will be to justify the trade.

The only way to justify the trade is to be a playoff team this season. You don’t extend a 34 year old QB you traded to get unless the idea is immediate and impactful success.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

In terms of weapons ideally the skins will sign either Allen Robinson or Sammy Watkins and may double down on a burner such as Wallace, Richardson, or Brown.

I think they SHOULD do that with preference to Robinson. Calvin Ridley and Kirk may be more suited for the slot and I am not high on James Washington whatsoever and Sutton I honestly dont know enough about.

I think the Skins may either be aggressive in F/A and spend recklessly to do what they didnt do with Cousins which is to put Alex Smith in a position to succeed, while also selling hope, tickets, and jerseys

or

They can remain super quiet. Resign their own, possibly explore the trade market, and sign cut players who all wouldnt count against the compensatory formula. Then they can try to spin and sell the added compensatory picks to fans when justifying the Cousins deal.

Either way I think whatever direction they go will be motivated by spite for Kirk Cousins, and an attempt to convince themselves and fans that they did the right thing.

You need to park your emotions at the door & then form an objective take. You make the FO sound like they are motivated simply by their feelings & are somehow getting back at Cousins. That is ridiculous. Sure - they have made mistakes in terms of Cousins & other moves but to suggest that they are almost exclusively motivated by spite & other emotions is laughable.

Spoken like a true jilted fan - or (hopefully) a soon to be ex-fan.

 

[Sharkinva]

Oh, and what's that Real thing or PR of which you speak, @coach_spurrier_1

And speaaking of FAs. Who's also read that Zach Brown wants to be paid in the neighborhood of Bobby Wagner and Luke K? Cuz if that's accurate, let him test the FA waters and possibly come back down to reality or sign elsewhere. Cuz he's not the caliber player of a Wagner or LK.

OK I know this might come as a shock....

BUt i sort of agree with Coach on this one. Bruce is going to look at this off season and plan with the primary focus being making the move to Smith look good. By that it means that Smith will be afforded the pieces to make this offense work with his skill sets. As such I think he will over commit to the offense. After all, the defense has sucked for years. Whats one more shitty defensive season as long as Bruce looks to have made the right move.

 

[Skins2021]

You need to park your emotions at the door & then form an objective take. You make the FO sound like they are motivated simply by their feelings & are somehow getting back at Cousins. That is ridiculous. Sure - they have made mistakes in terms of Cousins & other moves but to suggest that they are almost exclusively motivated by spite & other emotions is laughable.

Spoken like a true jilted fan - or (hopefully) a soon to be ex-fan.

If you dont think the Redskins front office is and has been motivated by spite you obviously havent been paying attention.

or you are just that delusional and havent been able to lay off the kool-aid

I feel bad for you.

 

[Sharkinva]

If you dont think the Redskins front office is and has been motivated by spite you obviously havent been paying attention.

or you are just that delusional and havent been able to lay off the kool-aid

I feel bad for you.

@SoCalWizFan is the Board optimist. Every board needs one of those, so lets not be too harsh on him.

That being said, I dont think the handling of Cousins was all spite, but mostly ego on the part of the front office, and yes on the part of the player as well. Kirk is gone, which i think is good for him. Bruce, will let his ego dictate how he handles things moving forward. Its who he is, and who the owner is. At this point its not about spite, its about ego and proving he (Bruce) was right. Which is why I expect overkill on he offensive "talent" acquisition this off season. This move has got to look good.

 

[Skins2021]

@SoCalWizFan is the Board optimist. Every board needs one of those, so lets not be too harsh on him.

That being said, I dont think the handling of Cousins was all spite, but mostly ego on the part of the front office, and yes on the part of the player as well. Kirk is gone, which i think is good for him. Bruce, will let his ego dictate how he handles things moving forward. Its who he is, and who the owner is. At this point its not about spite, its about ego and proving he (Bruce) was right. Which is why I expect overkill on he offensive "talent" acquisition this off season. This move has got to look good.

everything is motivated by $, ego/spite, and PR spins

Unfortunately wins/losses doesnt rank higher

 

[SoCalWizFan]

If you dont think the Redskins front office is and has been motivated by spite you obviously havent been paying attention.

or you are just that delusional and havent been able to lay off the kool-aid

I feel bad for you.

Whatever Philly guy. You obviously have not read my posts over time. I have made it clear that I don't like Snyder or Allen & I was all for extending Cousins. However - unlike you - I realize that at some pt you have to move on.

Moving on for me means hoping for the best for the team. Unlike you & some others rooting for another NFL team will never be an option for me. Again - if you think that Bruce Allen stews all day long & thinks of new ways to get back at Kirk Cousins then you are a fool. Oh well - don't let me stop you from making your millionth post about how Smith sucks, the DC area is garbage & all of the shortcomings of the Redskins.

Please, please, please become an Eagles fan already.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

@SoCalWizFan is the Board optimist. Every board needs one of those, so lets not be too harsh on him.

That being said, I dont think the handling of Cousins was all spite, but mostly ego on the part of the front office, and yes on the part of the player as well. Kirk is gone, which i think is good for him. Bruce, will let his ego dictate how he handles things moving forward. Its who he is, and who the owner is. At this point its not about spite, its about ego and proving he (Bruce) was right. Which is why I expect overkill on he offensive "talent" acquisition this off season. This move has got to look good.

It is not about being an optimist. It is about rooting for the team in spite of poor ownership & shortcomings & also moving on. What am I supposed to do? Root against the Redskins? Hope that Smith gets injured or has a bunch of bad games? Hope for the worst draft picks?

Cmon - there needs to be some balance here. If Smith tanks or other players fall short I will be with others & state that they suck, but that has yet to occur. I am also not like some others here looking to be validated by my predictions or opinions. I don't give a shit about those - I only care about the team doing well. I have stated before that I wouldn't be too sad if Snyder died but that ain't happening soon so I am trying to make the best of the current situation. Is there something wrong with that?

One thing for certain - I would never switch to rooting for another team especially the Eagles or Cowboys. Any fan who considered this even for a minute is a terrible so called fan IMO.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

BTW - Shark - I think that your take is a good one. I would chalk it up to ego & would say that Snyder/Allen are not looking to get back at Cousins but rather build a winning team but in a way that suits them which certainly could be done in a flawed manner. We will see.

 

[Skins2021]

It is not about being an optimist. It is about rooting for the team in spite of poor ownership & shortcomings & also moving on. What am I supposed to do? Root against the Redskins? Hope that Smith gets injured or has a bunch of bad games? Hope for the worst draft picks?

Cmon - there needs to be some balance here. If Smith tanks or other players fall short I will be with others & state that they suck, but that has yet to occur. I am also not like some others here looking to be validated by my predictions or opinions. I don't give a shit about those - I only care about the team doing well. I have stated before that I wouldn't be too sad if Snyder died but that ain't happening soon so I am trying to make the best of the current situation. Is there something wrong with that?

One thing for certain - I would never switch to rooting for another team especially the Eagles or Cowboys. Any fan who considered this even for a minute is a terrible so called fan IMO.

nah terrible fans are the ones who sell their seats to opposing fans, dont come, and/or dont give a shit about the game when they are their.

skins have zero home field advantage.

You dont know a thing about me. I've been a die hard fan my entire life in enemy territory. I watched the Giants win twice while living in Giants territory, Eagles win once while living in Eagles territory, and the Steelers win twice while I was in college in PA where 1/3 of the campus rooted for the Steelers.

I cried when Sean Taylor died
I lost hours and hours of sleep when RG3 tore his acl in the playoffs
I cried in 2000 when the Skins lost in the divisional game because Norv Turner strayed away from the game plan in the last 5 minutes of the game.

I've spent 25 years fighting for my fandom in "enemy" territory, while the skins embarrassed themselves and me countless times, taking a ton of shit for 25 years for being a skins fan. Its a lot easier being a browns fan in cleveland where you can share your misery. Trying being a skins fan when everyone around you is winning and there isnt really anyone around who understands what is like to lose for 25 straight years.

And through the 25 years of constant bullshit no one has hurt me more then the management of the Redskins.

Paraphrasing what GK said "did you still love your wife after she cheated on you socal?"

I'm very confident that I know more then the skins over the last 20 years then you do. I'd be willing to put your medicaid on it, and yes DC as a place to live does suck.

go kick rocks old man

 

[Breed]

OK I know this might come as a shock....

BUt i sort of agree with Coach on this one. Bruce is going to look at this off season and plan with the primary focus being making the move to Smith look good. By that it means that Smith will be afforded the pieces to make this offense work with his skill sets. As such I think he will over commit to the offense. After all, the defense has sucked for years. Whats one more shitty defensive season as long as Bruce looks to have made the right move.

I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with ol' baw coach. I was merely pointing out that using a high draft pick on a DL. Wasn't the only available option to them. I hope Allen makes a significant effort to acquiring a supporting cast for AS. I'd also opine TE may be a position the Skins would like/need to upgrade. Cuz while I think Jordan Reed has top 3 in the NFL pass catching skills and ol' Vern still can outrun every LB and 99% of the safeties in the NFL. Given Davis' age and Reed almost being guaranteed to miss parts or all of some games due to injury. It'd be nice if the Skins actually got in front of some potential issues. As opposed to letting those issues break a foot off in our ass. That's anotther thing pissin me off. Why didn't we giive players like Mauurice Harris and Jeremy Sprinkle more opportunities to see what they can do.Between the both of them they got 9 passes combined thrown to them. What kinda shit is that? Some bullshit that's what it is.

As for your last question. I'd opine that having another year defensively like we've had the last couple years. Would be the very definition of Allen not making right moves. Straight up, we are a foul ass, putrid squad throughout the middle of our defense. Given my druthers I might spend a high 1st/2nd rd pk, and a significant FA signing on the intterior DL. Tell Zach Brown to kick fuckin rocks and go get another Mason Foster type.

 

[Skins2021]

BTW - Shark - I think that your take is a good one. I would chalk it up to ego & would say that Snyder/Allen are not looking to get back at Cousins but rather build a winning team but in a way that suits them which certainly could be done in a flawed manner. We will see.

pretty sure shark and I nearly have identical takes...

ego vs spite is semantics that I am not willing to break down because whatever you want to call it, the style is still detrimental to the team...

btw a lot of people havent moved on from the A. Smith trade.... probably because A) its a trade that will set the franchise back 5 years B) its not even official yet C) its the offseason before free agency

you are a fraud