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trojanfan12

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Ingram comes closest to that potential, IMO. Dude is somewhat held back by his genetics... he just doesn't seem to have the frame to hold weight/muscle. But he can possibly become KD like in his game.

He has managed to gain some muscle/weight over last season, but from what I read, the Lakers want him to add it slowly. Adding muscle/weight too quickly can create it's own problems. I don't think he's ever going to be "muscular" but if he can develop into even a poor mans KD...that'll be just fine.

One thing I like about Oladipo is he got some muscle...

and doesn't play with Westbrook anymore. lol
 

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The Lakers young guns, OTOH, are just light in the pants.

Yeah, I forget who they were playing, but there was a recent game where a couple of different players (Ingram was one) where they tried to stand their ground and be physical. They got "shouldered" in the paint by a vet and they just bounced off and ended up almost out of bounds. lol

I thought, those boys need to go on a pure FatBurger diet. lol
 

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not trying to start any crap, man. but don't you think it's a tad early to make that determination...?

You rarely have more than 1 or 2 superstars in a draft. May not be top guys in the draft but it is rare to see 3 or 4 superstars come out of a draft.
 

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You rarely have more than 1 or 2 superstars in a draft. May not be top guys in the draft but it is rare to see 3 or 4 superstars come out of a draft.

I disagree but I have very high standards about superstars. I agree that probably 1-2 top 15/20 players come out of each draft. Let's take a look at NBA drafts from 2009-2015 and see who the stars were

2009-Curry & Harden
2010- Wall & Cousins
2011( GREAT DRAFT)- Kyrie, Butler, Klay, & Leonard
2012- AD & Lillard. Beal & Drummond were also in this draft but not top 20 players.
2013-Greek
2014-Embiid
2015- Towns & Porzingis are the only 2 who looks like they're on their way to becoming a top 20 player
 

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I disagree but I have very high standards about superstars. I agree that probably 1-2 top 15/20 players come out of each draft. Let's take a look at NBA drafts from 2009-2015 and see who the stars were

2009-Curry & Harden Griffin? DeRozan?
2010- Wall & Cousins George? Hayward?
2011( GREAT DRAFT)- Kyrie, Butler, Klay, & Leonard Kemba? Isaiah?
2012- AD & Lillard. Beal & Drummond were also in this draft but not top 20 players. Draymond?
2013-Greek Oladipo emerging with the Pacers...
2014-Embiid Wiggins has seemingly stagnated, may need a fresh start elsewhere. Several others occasionally show signs, but nothing consistant.
2015- Towns & Porzingis are the only 2 who looks like they're on their way to becoming a top 20 player Booker a potential elite scorer
 

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I disagree but I have very high standards about superstars. I agree that probably 1-2 top 15/20 players come out of each draft. Let's take a look at NBA drafts from 2009-2015 and see who the stars were

2009-Curry & Harden
2010- Wall & Cousins
2011( GREAT DRAFT)- Kyrie, Butler, Klay, & Leonard
2012- AD & Lillard. Beal & Drummond were also in this draft but not top 20 players.
2013-Greek
2014-Embiid
2015- Towns & Porzingis are the only 2 who looks like they're on their way to becoming a top 20 player

What do you disagree with?
 

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2009-Curry & Harden Griffin? DeRozan?
2010- Wall & Cousins George? Hayward?
2011( GREAT DRAFT)- Kyrie, Butler, Klay, & Leonard Kemba? Isaiah?
2012- AD & Lillard. Beal & Drummond were also in this draft but not top 20 players. Draymond?
2013-Greek Oladipo emerging with the Pacers...
2014-Embiid Wiggins has seemingly stagnated, may need a fresh start elsewhere. Several others occasionally show signs, but nothing consistant.
2015- Towns & Porzingis are the only 2 who looks like they're on their way to becoming a top 20 player Booker a potential elite scorer

The only guys you listed that could be legitimately considered super stars are Griffin, George, an Draymond.

The others guys are really good but not super stars
 

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not trying to start any crap, man. but don't you think it's a tad early to make that determination...?

It isn't a knock on a player saying they are unlikely to be a superstar. Very few ever ascend to that level. To get there, you need freakish talent. That is generally reaerved for the top 1% of the league.
 

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The only guys you listed that could be legitimately considered super stars are Griffin, George, an Draymond.

The others guys are really good but not super stars
None of those 3 are Superstars either...imo
 

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None of those 3 are Superstars either...imo

I'm not sure I would call them superstars either. But an argument could be made, especially for Griffin. If he could have stayed healthy he absolutely would have been a super star.
 

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Kid was fire last night.

Gonna be a good race for second in the ROY race if he, Mitchell and Tatum keep it up.

Yeah. This is looking to be a truly exceptional rookie class.

Heck the no. 1 pick has basically not played yet. There are probably 6 or 7 rookies who have looked really promising.
 

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Defensively I really am on board with Semi O. He is almost as shut down as Smart. But like Smart..........
 

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14,8, and 5 for Bam tonight. I think he's been better than most thought in year 1.

Not bad at the pickup at all.
 
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