Kevin Durant Believes The Greek Freak Can Become The GOAT

[tlance]

Giannis was at 27% last year and James at one point was a 29% three point shooter and is now around 34% every year. So he showed you can improve and he became an average three point shooter which is certainly something Giannis can still develop at just 22 years of age and is still learning how to play at his new height and weight. Don't forget the dude has grown 4 inches and 30 lbs since he first came into the league.

J Kidd Also had a dreadful three point shot when he came into the NBA and became one of the better shooters in the game later in his career. If anyone can guide Giannis to develop his long range shot it's this man.

Sure times change and the game evolves but the fact is Giannis is still dominating the game right now without even taking a three point shot. The game will continue to evolve and he is the trend setter right now.

LOL.

He MIGHT develop into a league average 3 point shooter. For every example you provide of a player who made strides in that area, I can find you one that didn't.

Fact is, you are projecting him to be better than LeBron at age 22. That just isn't fair. LeBron has so many intangibles that Giannis doesn't even know exist yet.

You need to slow your role. He is on his way. But his time hasn't come yet.

 

[tlance]

Yawn, your lack of ability to substantiate your claims while I provide statistical analysis and actually watching the players proves I win. LMAO at anyone who attempts to compare Kemp to Giannis.

Yawn, next please

Kemp played in the 90s. So by default he is better than anyone currently playing according to some.

Giannis is going to be great. But you need to be patient and let it happen organically. He still has a ways to go. Greatness is about a lot more than stuffing the stat sheet in the regular season. Otherwise, Anthony Davis would be in the conversation too.

 

[ManuForever]

Brogdon was rookie of the year. Middleton was 18 ppg in the previous season before the season ending injury, and Parker was a 20 ppg scorer before the season ending injury. They have good depth at pg and Center. Bucks supporting cast this season is miles ahead of the trash Westbrook had to play with last year.

Again, trying to predict the future. You have literally no idea what's going to happen this season. The cast around Giannis could be complete trash (which is what they look like on paper) and you're jumping the gun after two games declaring him the best in the NBA.

Also, Brogdon was rookie of the year cause he seemed to be the only one who could play the entire season and not get injured severely. He was never a lock for anything until he won the award. It was quite literally a coin toss.

 

[tlance]

Again, trying to predict the future. You have literally no idea what's going to happen this season. The cast around Giannis could be complete trash (which is what they look like on paper) and you're jumping the gun after two games declaring him the best in the NBA.

Also, Brogdon was rookie of the year cause he seemed to be the only one who could play the entire season and not get injured severely. He was never a lock for anything until he won the award. It was quite literally a coin toss.

Brogdon is literally one of favorite athletes of all time as a UVA fan. I love him.

But, his NBA ceiling isn't much higher than what we saw as a rookie. He was NBA ready after 5 years playing for Tony Bennett. He will get better because he is a hard worker, but there will be more than a couple players from his draft class who will eventually surpass him.

Also, I find it a little funny that @Great Dayne hasn't backed off some of his comments a bit after the Bucks lost to Cleveland by 20.

If we are going to rush in and jump to conclusions, mine would be that the Bucks aren't ready to join the top teams just yet.

 

[ManuForever]

Brogdon is literally one of favorite athletes of all time as a UVA fan. I love him.

But, his NBA ceiling isn't much higher than what we saw as a rookie. He was NBA ready after 5 years playing for Tony Bennett. He will get better because he is a hard worker, but there will be more than a couple players from his draft class who will eventually surpass him.

Also, I find it a little funny that @Great Dayne hasn't backed off some of his comments a bit after the Bucks lost to Cleveland by 20.

If we are going to rush in and jump to conclusions, mine would be that the Bucks aren't ready to join the top teams just yet.

He also hasn't responded to quite a few of the comments on this thread. Guess he's afraid he'll be labeled "Wrong".

 

[Shanemansj13]

It's a statistical fact now. His only weakness is not having a three point shot which is mainly because he doesn't even shoot three pointers much since he doesn't need it to dominate just like MJ didn't need it really.

MJ had a money mid-range, Giannis doesn't. Comparing MJ's shot to Giannis' is just dumb. MJ was around 34% for his career but in his prime he was pretty good. One year he shot 42%. Lebron is pretty much the same, he shot well in his prime as well.

The thing that is funny is....Giannis is entering his 5th season and he is 23 and is arguing entering his prime (you could say last year). Lebron was in his prime in his 2nd year, when he was 19/20 yp, straight out of high school. For him to surpass Lebron is going to be difficult enough bc if we already comparing careers Lebron made the playoffs in year 3 and took the champion Pistons to 7 games in the 2nd round. Then he beat the Pistons in year 4 and got his team to the Finals. Last year was Giannis' 4th year in the league lol. And lets remember Lebron did it with a lesser team around him and a 15 win team without him. But I guess it doesn't help that Giannis is going to have to beat Lebron to accomplish all those things, so the whole GOAT thing is a mute point. But he is a great talent and could someday be the face of the NBA, just a lot of others to compete with in this league and it isn't slowing down soon.

 

[Shanemansj13]

He also hasn't responded to quite a few of the comments on this thread. Guess he's afraid he'll be labeled "Wrong".

He already is delusional. I wouldn't be surprised if he is wrong lmao. No doubt Giannis is a great talent and athletic freak, he can be unstoppable with a jumpshot but GOAT status when he just entered his prime, it is what it is, a homer fan creating a dumb thread. Lets see him crack the top 100 of all-time before we talk about top 10

 

[SJ76]

Yawn, your lack of ability to substantiate your claims while I provide statistical analysis and actually watching the players proves I win. LMAO at anyone who attempts to compare Kemp to Giannis.

Yawn, next please

Your 2 game statistical analysis? This is funny with a splash of stupid. Lemme guess it took you awhile to do that. You're way past homer here.

Your boy Giannis never even average over 10 boards a game. Kemp did it for 6 or 7 years? Explain that stat boy

 

[gohusk]

MJ had a money mid-range, Giannis doesn't. Comparing MJ's shot to Giannis' is just dumb. MJ was around 34% for his career but in his prime he was pretty good. One year he shot 42%. Lebron is pretty much the same, he shot well in his prime as well.

The thing that is funny is....Giannis is entering his 5th season and he is 23 and is arguing entering his prime (you could say last year). Lebron was in his prime in his 2nd year, when he was 19/20 yp, straight out of high school. For him to surpass Lebron is going to be difficult enough bc if we already comparing careers Lebron made the playoffs in year 3 and took the champion Pistons to 7 games in the 2nd round. Then he beat the Pistons in year 4 and got his team to the Finals. Last year was Giannis' 4th year in the league lol. And lets remember Lebron did it with a lesser team around him and a 15 win team without him. But I guess it doesn't help that Giannis is going to have to beat Lebron to accomplish all those things, so the whole GOAT thing is a mute point. But he is a great talent and could someday be the face of the NBA, just a lot of others to compete with in this league and it isn't slowing down soon.

LeBron's great obviously but he wasn't "in his prime" until he was the full package which was with the great defense and inside game, and that took years to develop. And he didn't really have the monster post game until his second season with the Heat. The guy's an all time great but let's not pretend he didn't have to develop himself and part of the reason it did take so long to get that post game was his own stubbornness.

 

[gohusk]

All I know is this guy has one of the best spin and step through moves I've ever seen.

 

[tlance]

LeBron's great obviously but he wasn't "in his prime" until he was the full package which was with the great defense and inside game, and that took years to develop. And he didn't really have the monster post game until his second season with the Heat. The guy's an all time great but let's not pretend he didn't have to develop himself and part of the reason it did take so long to get that post game was his own stubbornness.

I think the point was that Giannis today is about where LeBron was in year 2.

 

[DorianRo]

Lebron developed his game (Not enough IMO) but he developed his outside game by leaps and bounds. Giannis needs to keep developing and will eventually have to learn to play within the system of other stars.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I think the point was that Giannis today is about where LeBron was in year 2.

This

 

[Great Dayne]

Giannis with a poor performance tonight with 44 points on 17/22 FG with 9 reb 4 ast 2 stl and 1 blk in the win. I expected him to have better assist numbers and is under performing drastically right now.

The Greek Freak is absolutely dominating the league. He should be in a league better than the NBA that's how unfair it is right now. He might average 50 + with a triple double one day. He's averaging nearly 40 ppg now with 10 reb and 5.5 ast along with 3 stl and a block on about 70% FG%. He's miles ahead of the #2 player right now. I'm sure Vegas odds will now have him as the favorite to win MVP.

His team is 2-1 and will be even better once they get young.

I projected he would get a near triple double with 30+ a game with 2.5 blks and 2 stl on 55% FG %. He's exceeded all my expectations from my initial post except being a little low in assists and blocks right now. I don't expect him to average 40 a game but it's not entirely out of the question with the way he looks right now. It's almost like when Wilt was dominating vs a ton of scrubs back in the day.

Oh and the people who called me a homer and doubted my predictions feel free to eat crow here like a man.

Especially the morons that compared him to Shawn freaking Kemp.

 

[Great Dayne]

You're working hard here, and there's a non-zero chance you're right. And I have no doubt there's an MVP or two in his future. But it wont be this year.

Where you at buddy? Come on back and join the fun. Tell me more about how Giannis has no chance of winning the MVP this season.

 

[ManuForever]

Giannis with a poor performance tonight with 44 points on 17/22 FG with 9 reb 4 ast 2 stl and 1 blk in the win. I expected him to have better assist numbers and is under performing drastically right now.

The Greek Freak is absolutely dominating the league. He should be in a league better than the NBA that's how unfair it is right now. He might average 50 + with a triple double one day. He's averaging nearly 40 ppg now with 10 reb and 5.5 ast along with 3 stl and a block on about 70% FG%. He's miles ahead of the #2 player right now. I'm sure Vegas odds will now have him as the favorite to win MVP.

His team is 2-1 and will be even better once they get young.

I projected he would get a near triple double with 30+ a game with 2.5 blks and 2 stl on 55% FG %. He's exceeded all my expectations from my initial post except being a little low in assists and blocks right now. I don't expect him to average 40 a game but it's not entirely out of the question with the way he looks right now. It's almost like when Wilt was dominating vs a ton of scrubs back in the day.

Oh and the people who called me a homer and doubted my predictions feel free to eat crow here like a man.

Especially the morons that compared him to Shawn freaking Kemp.

IT'S 3 FUCKING GAMES.

Bolded: I can't even...that's how fucking stupid that sounds...I'm gonna end up hating Giannis just because of you.

 

[ManuForever]

Call me when he averages 40 and 10 through 82 games. You look absolutely stupid for predicting an entire season because of 3 games. Just absolutely idiotic.

 

[Great Dayne]

This

Nope

38 ppg 10 reb 5 ast 3 stl and a blk on 70% FG% is vastly superior than what James did in year 2 or any year for that matter.

Yawn, next please

 

[ManuForever]

Nope

38 ppg 10 reb 5 ast 3 stl and a blk on 70% FG% is vastly superior than what James did in year 2 or any year for that matter.

Yawn, next please

You have to be a troll. You absolutely MUST be a troll. Nobody can be this stupid.

It's 3 games. I can't believe someone is saying this stupid shit.

Giannis USG% through 3 games: 36.9.
LeBron 2nd season USG% entire season: 29.7

I'm pretty damn sure LeBron would have done exactly what Giannis is doing plus some if he had more time with the ball.

 

[Wamu]

He might average 50 + with a triple double one day.

Are you sober?