Should NFL Players "Strike" Over Pay??

[BigKen]

Richard Sherman fired a salvo across the bow of the NFL owners yesterday stating that Players in the NFL should strike for a better pay system. A pay system equal to what the better players in the NBA and MLB get in comparison to what the NFL players get.

It's sort of like comparing apples to bananas and apples to cucumbers.

The critical item is that NBA and MLB contracts are guaranteed. The reasons are that most players will play out their contracts. That's not always possible in the NFL.

NBA and NFL contracts are generally much longer and the money is generally evenly spread over that contract.

Generally the stars in all sports are the guys who get the money. The problem in the NFL is that every position has a different value. In basketball, you have 5 position and point guard might be more valuable to one team than a power forward or a center. On a different team, the center may be more critical. Overall, every position is a position of value. In baseball, every position is pretty much equal. A power hitting 1B who can steal bases and hit home runs is pretty much equal to a closer or a starter.

Then you have the number of games played. Regular season in the NFL is 16 games including the Bye. Basketball and baseball have 80-82 game seasons. Football is much more violent. Injuries often cut short a player's career in the NFL and more often than not, end a career. Basketball and baseball have their injuries also, but most players can return during the season, if not the following season.

As with any professional sport, you have the stars and the rest. If your not a star and are at the bottom of the payscale, do you strike for those stars to get a bigger payday, while yours might get a bit bigger, but most likely won't be significantly changed.

Sherman like others in the NFL are seeing the incredible contracts for the NBA free agents and are thinking that they'd like to get a 5 year $210M contract.

The NFL CBA is up in 2020. Think the NFL owners are going to change things drastically?? Think any of them will be willing to hand out a Curry contract to an offensive tackle or a defensive end? The only way I can see anything getting done is if the union and owners agree to pay substantial bonuses to every player who plays all 16 games, with no shenanigans like leaving a guy off the 46 man roster in week 16 who's played 15 previous games. Then....what's the bonus? Half a player's contract? What about a guy who comes off the practice squad in week 2 and plays the rest of the season??

I think the owners are just going to say......"You don't like the pay system in the NFL, then play basketball."

Any ideas??

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

It would never work for more than a very short term in the NFL

Seasons are too short, and careers are definitely too short

Too many guys would either not join the strike or cross the line in short order

This threat wont even get owners nervous, the guaranteed money is in the signing bonus', you will never see long term guaranteed money in the NFL, and you shouldnt, injuries and quick ineffectiveness will always prevent it

 

[broncosmitty]

For more money? No.

For guarenteed money? Yes.

The best of the best would need to stick their nose out for the nobodies. Which won't happen. Maybe 5% of its employees actually matter to the NFLs bottom line. It'd require all of them to get anywhere for the others.

The players need to ditch their union first and foremost. It's shit and essentially just an extension of the NFL. The NFL needs meat and that what they employ. Once American meat isn't willing to risk life and limb for week to week checks, it'll import its meat.

 

[Thruthefog]

Has an NFL star ever spoken out about raising the league minimum?

 

[Rock Strongo]

Richard Sherman fired a salvo across the bow of the NFL owners yesterday stating that Players in the NFL should strike for a better pay system. A pay system equal to what the better players in the NBA and MLB get in comparison to what the NFL players get.

It's sort of like comparing apples to bananas and apples to cucumbers.

The critical item is that NBA and MLB contracts are guaranteed. The reasons are that most players will play out their contracts. That's not always possible in the NFL.

NBA and NFL contracts are generally much longer and the money is generally evenly spread over that contract.

Generally the stars in all sports are the guys who get the money. The problem in the NFL is that every position has a different value. In basketball, you have 5 position and point guard might be more valuable to one team than a power forward or a center. On a different team, the center may be more critical. Overall, every position is a position of value. In baseball, every position is pretty much equal. A power hitting 1B who can steal bases and hit home runs is pretty much equal to a closer or a starter.

Then you have the number of games played. Regular season in the NFL is 16 games including the Bye. Basketball and baseball have 80-82 game seasons. Football is much more violent. Injuries often cut short a player's career in the NFL and more often than not, end a career. Basketball and baseball have their injuries also, but most players can return during the season, if not the following season.

As with any professional sport, you have the stars and the rest. If your not a star and are at the bottom of the payscale, do you strike for those stars to get a bigger payday, while yours might get a bit bigger, but most likely won't be significantly changed.

Sherman like others in the NFL are seeing the incredible contracts for the NBA free agents and are thinking that they'd like to get a 5 year $210M contract.

The NFL CBA is up in 2020. Think the NFL owners are going to change things drastically?? Think any of them will be willing to hand out a Curry contract to an offensive tackle or a defensive end? The only way I can see anything getting done is if the union and owners agree to pay substantial bonuses to every player who plays all 16 games, with no shenanigans like leaving a guy off the 46 man roster in week 16 who's played 15 previous games. Then....what's the bonus? Half a player's contract? What about a guy who comes off the practice squad in week 2 and plays the rest of the season??

I think the owners are just going to say......"You don't like the pay system in the NFL, then play basketball."

Any ideas??

contracts should be guaranteed. salaries will shrink accordingly.

 

[Clayton]

I feel like NFL players that can actually play are seeing an increase in their pay.

That said, if the NFL starts making more money having 4-8 games in London from here on out and eventually as many in Mexico City then at some point you figure that the players will find away to grow their earnings, too.

 

[PDay8810]

Sherman represents about 10% of the players when voicing his opinion. It's about 10% that's making the big money contracts looking for guaranteed cash. Most of these guys are young and just trying to make a team. Average length of service time is about 3 years. Sherman is talking about a select few, and it will never work.

 

[PDay8810]

contracts should be guaranteed. salaries will shrink accordingly.

certainly the length of the contract will shrink

 

[redseat]

They certainly have a right to be pissed about how much they are getting paid compared to any other sport

 

[PDay8810]

They certainly have a right to be pissed about how much they are getting paid compared to any other sport

16 dates to generate income and over 1600 players...compare that to the other sports

 

[chf]

Richard Sherman fired a salvo across the bow of the NFL owners yesterday stating that Players in the NFL should strike for a better pay system. A pay system equal to what the better players in the NBA and MLB get in comparison to what the NFL players get.

It's sort of like comparing apples to bananas and apples to cucumbers.

The critical item is that NBA and MLB contracts are guaranteed. The reasons are that most players will play out their contracts. That's not always possible in the NFL.

NBA and NFL contracts are generally much longer and the money is generally evenly spread over that contract.

Generally the stars in all sports are the guys who get the money. The problem in the NFL is that every position has a different value. In basketball, you have 5 position and point guard might be more valuable to one team than a power forward or a center. On a different team, the center may be more critical. Overall, every position is a position of value. In baseball, every position is pretty much equal. A power hitting 1B who can steal bases and hit home runs is pretty much equal to a closer or a starter.

Then you have the number of games played. Regular season in the NFL is 16 games including the Bye. Basketball and baseball have 80-82 game seasons. Football is much more violent. Injuries often cut short a player's career in the NFL and more often than not, end a career. Basketball and baseball have their injuries also, but most players can return during the season, if not the following season.

As with any professional sport, you have the stars and the rest. If your not a star and are at the bottom of the payscale, do you strike for those stars to get a bigger payday, while yours might get a bit bigger, but most likely won't be significantly changed.

Sherman like others in the NFL are seeing the incredible contracts for the NBA free agents and are thinking that they'd like to get a 5 year $210M contract.

The NFL CBA is up in 2020. Think the NFL owners are going to change things drastically?? Think any of them will be willing to hand out a Curry contract to an offensive tackle or a defensive end? The only way I can see anything getting done is if the union and owners agree to pay substantial bonuses to every player who plays all 16 games, with no shenanigans like leaving a guy off the 46 man roster in week 16 who's played 15 previous games. Then....what's the bonus? Half a player's contract? What about a guy who comes off the practice squad in week 2 and plays the rest of the season??

I think the owners are just going to say......"You don't like the pay system in the NFL, then play basketball."

Any ideas??

Depends on whom you ask. Jerry Jones LOVES the idea of an uncapped NFL, because then he IS free to offer Sherman whatever amount of money he wants to come play for the Cowboys.

There are other owners in his camp.

 

[chf]

Sherman represents about 10% of the players when voicing his opinion. It's about 10% that's making the big money contracts looking for guaranteed cash. Most of these guys are young and just trying to make a team. Average length of service time is about 3 years. Sherman is talking about a select few, and it will never work.

Sure it'll work, just as your owner.

 

[mcnabb7542]

If Sherman doesn't become a CEO for a major company after football, he'll make a hell of a Commish that players will follow!

 

[PDay8810]

Sure it'll work, just as your owner.

no it won't work
31 other teams to consider.

 

[Manster7588]

Injuries and salary cap make it impossible to guarantee NFL contract. Many here have said Sherman is a smart dude so why cant he see that?

 

[chf]

no it won't work
31 other teams to consider.

Heh, no need for the facepalm dude, I for one, am a fan of the cap. Just pointing out Jerryworld's take on it.

Hell, since Allen has more money than the rest of the NFL owners combined, maybe I should listen to Jerry.

 

[chf]

Injuries and salary cap make it impossible to guarantee NFL contract. Many here have said Sherman is a smart dude so why cant he see that?

Because he wants the NFL owners led by your owner to commit suicide and abandon the cap?

 

[Ewa PGH Fan]

no it won't work
31 other teams to consider.

If my memory is correct, I seem to think that the NFL Network has said many times that JJ and Dan Rooney brokered the salary cap and revenue sharing deals and JJ agreeing brought the other deep pocket owners on board for both.

 

[Manster7588]

Because he wants the NFL owners led by your owner to commit suicide and abandon the cap?

The cap ain't going anywhere. The Owners know it, the fans know it, and the players should know it.

 

[PDay8810]

Heh, no need for the facepalm dude, I for one, am a fan of the cap. Just pointing out Jerryworld's take on it.

Hell, since Allen has more money than the rest of the NFL owners combined, maybe I should listen to Jerry.

it won't work and Sherman is speaking for maybe 10% of the players.
Jerry remains 1 of 32 and was elected into the HOF cause he made the other owners huge amounts of $$$