He is clueless when it comes to basketball tooMaybe he shoud talk football and make it the triple whammy
Not really, as it's a counting stat, and Aaron was known to stat-pad at the end of his career. Aaron is an all-time great and all, but honestly I think he gets overrated because of the 755 home runs.
Wait, you actually care about RBI's, or am I reading this wrong?
I don't know if he's "overrated" or not, but considering he pitched 11 seasons, and in 5 of them never reached a 2 win season, he doesn't belong in a top 25 list based on career alone.
You take all of his total bases from his last 3 seasons and he would still have a sizable lead, though.
What? Do I have a point? Yeah- it's that RBI's don't matter. Not that I'm trying to shit on you like everyone else in this thread. I think you were the guy talking about Bonds, and you were more right than UK Cowboy or Nosfateru or whatever, but if you factor in RBI's into a guy's production, then you have a very rudimentary understanding of baseball statistics (not that that's a problem. Statistics aren't everyone's forte. I mean I know @Chewbaccer and @Used 2 B Hu don't know a whole ton about them, but are still very knowledgable baseball fans and articulate their points well without dismissing statistics. They just acknowledge that their knowledge of them is limited. The problem is when you get guys like UK, who know nothing about statistics, and then dismiss facts because they've "watched the game longer than you've been alive" and thus must know more; not actually offering a counter to the points you've made).
Sure, but I don't think it's an important statistic to lead in, regardless of stat-padding. It's better than RBI's or hits, but not a be-all, end-all (not sure if you think it is or not, just going off you saying that you think TB is an important statistic)
IIRC, Total Bases is the 2nd best stat for measuring wins. Its a pretty good stat overall with maybe some small issues here and there.
I'm pretty sure @StanMarsh51 didn't have to "research" ERA+....
Imo 'Prime Koufax' is something you say in baseball thats somewhere around 'Prime Shaq' in basketball. It carries some real weight but I think think Koufax's career is outside the top 25.
Where did you hear that? I've never read or heard anything about TB because it's largely been replaced by the superior slugging percentage. Not to mention, we already know that OBP is more important to scoring runs than SLG by a 1.8/1 ratio, and we also know that SLG does not assign weights to hits perfectly. For example, a home run is not 4 times more valuable than a single; thus, the need for a statistic like wOBA that measures each hit according to how many runs score on average based off that hit.
Maybe so, but is the perception accurate? I understand he only was really good for 6 years, but he ranks 88th in JAWS, and 56th in WAR7.
Oh, so you're right, that was someone else talking about Bonds (a Giants fan). Damn, I wouldn't talk about baseball very much if I were you
One of the major baseball magazines. I'll have to head home to get the exact quote but its basically an article on why we need to use the stat more in terms of it being a really useful stat thats easy to follow.
He certainly isnt comparable to Bo Jackson - a guy who never even had 1,000 yds in a season
