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Worst travel never called (5 steps) caused winning an NBA title

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No. You’re wrong. In real basketball two complete steps is a travel. You are allowed to lift your pivot foot off the ground to pass or shoot (otherwise even a jump shot would be a travel), but once you bring it back down (like you would have to for a second step) it is a travel.

I just tell you what the rules state... There is nothing else! Watch this video... Ref NUNN explains it all...


then watch this one... where the same top REF explains the faulty:


Same here... All legal because Giannis grabs the ball and pivots his front foot... then he goes other foot, back to the pivot foot (2nd step) and finishes... 100% done by the book.

 
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I just tell you what the rules state... There is nothing else! Watch this video... Ref NUNN explains it all...


then watch this one... where the same top REF explains the faulty:


Like I said. Real basketball. Aka not the nba. Which is made for tv.

See the awful advance the ball with a timeout rule.
 

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Like I said. Real basketball. Aka not the nba. Which is made for tv.

See the awful advance the ball with a timeout rule.

Once more... The rules on traveling are the same everywhere...IN ALL BASKETBALL (NBA, FIBA, Olympics, China, Australia, Europe... everywhere!) and have never changed from the introduction of the game... same rules NBA or not... Pivot leg (0), first step (1), second step by the pivot leg (2) and shoot... There is nothing else!
 

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I'd like to see video of tGreek driving in out of control, then spinning to the middle and tossing up some BS.


Only got to see it a hundred times in the playoffs.
 

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Once more... The rules on traveling are the same everywhere...IN ALL BASKETBALL (NBA, FIBA, Olympics, China, Australia, Europe... everywhere!) and have never changed from the introduction of the game... same rules NBA or not... Pivot leg (0), first step (1), second step by the pivot leg (2) and shoot... There is nothing else!

NBA on traveling: Two steps are better than one

Read the second paragraph

The nba is the only league in the world with this rule
 

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NBA on traveling: Two steps are better than one

Read the second paragraph

The nba is the only league in the world with this rule

what you post here is a 2009 unofficial publication, which twists what was really applied...

1. Traveling (basketball) - Wikipedia

2.


As I said before, basketball rules on traveling have never changed, the rules were re-phrased and signed during 2017 by an international committee that included NBA representation under the supervision of FIBA's referee Mr. Rigas so that there is clear understanding by refs all over the world on the rules of traveling...

Only one thing was altered and was added... that is "the first step before dribbling in transition" not to be violation was added in the rule book (it wasn't called be refs before, but it wasn't in the book)...
There rules were rephrased so that it would be easier for refs to fully understand them...

After his long experience Mr. Rigas (who has been the chief referee in 3 Olympic finals and another 3 World cup finals) realized that there was confusion between referees on what the pivot leg is...
Pivot leg is the one that is first on the floor after a player stops dribbling or gains possession...

The pivot leg can't be on the floor more than once, AFTER a player is taking steps towards the rim... It doesn't mean one step... it means two steps!

Therefore the rule was rephrased (and not altered) so that it makes it simple for referees to recognize a travel when it occurs...

In other words... A ref must only look watch which leg is the pivot leg and if he sees the same leg twice on the floor when the player moves without dribbling, that is a travel! If the payer touches the ground only once more with his (marked by the ref) pivot leg and then shoots, then there is no violation...

Here is another example of a perfectly legal move... (pivot leg when possessing, other leg, pivot leg once more and shoot...):

Worst travel never called (5 steps) caused winning an NBA title

Yet, even the commentators and some players of the opponent are complaining, which caused Charles Barkley to explain the legacy of the move during the TV break...
 
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EDIT Due to wrong video uploaded:

What you post here is a 2009 unofficial publication, which twists what was really applied...

1. Traveling (basketball) - Wikipedia

2.



As I said before, basketball rules on traveling have never changed, the rules were re-phrased and signed during 2017 by an international committee that included NBA representation under the supervision of FIBA's referee Mr. Rigas so that there is clear understanding by refs all over the world on the rules of traveling...

Only one thing was altered and was added... that is "the first step before dribbling in transition" not to be violation was added in the rule book (it wasn't called be refs before, but it wasn't in the book)...
There rules were rephrased so that it would be easier for refs to fully understand them...

After his long experience Mr. Rigas (who has been the chief referee in 3 Olympic finals and another 3 World cup finals) realized that there was confusion between referees on what the pivot leg is...
Pivot leg is the one that is first on the floor after a player stops dribbling or gains possession...

The pivot leg can't be on the floor more than once, AFTER a player is taking steps towards the rim... It doesn't mean one step... it means two steps!

Therefore the rule was rephrased (and not altered) so that it makes it simple for referees to recognize a travel when it occurs...

In other words... A ref must only look watch which leg is the pivot leg and if he sees the same leg twice on the floor when the player moves without dribbling, that is a travel! If the payer touches the ground only once more with his (marked by the ref) pivot leg and then shoots, then there is no violation...

Here is another example of a perfectly legal move... (pivot leg when possessing, other leg, pivot leg once more and shoot...):


Yet, even the commentators and some players of the opponent are complaining, which caused Charles Barkley to explain the legacy of the move during the TV break...
 

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Please stop all these nonsense... FIBA & NBA rules on traveling are exactly the same... No step back, or Euro step was ever traveling in basketball rules...

Traveling rules are quite simple... You are allowed to take two steps before you shoot or pass, or throw the ball away... As long as you take no third step, there is no travelling...

If a player is dribbling the ball, then his pivot leg is the one that is first on the floor AFTER HE STOPS DRIBBLING (therefore has possession of the ball)... His pivot leg is considered the point of initiation (point "0"), then first step is when his other leg is on the floor and second step is when the pivot leg is back on the floor...
somebody copy/pasted from Wikipedia, good job little soldier.
 

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The league hasn’t been enforcing traveling for over 20 years. Fundamentals aren’t sexy so they aren’t going to do it. This one doesn’t even bother me anymore. What does is that every year I see more and more guys that can’t dribble properly without turning over the ball in their hand. It’s become laughable.
 
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