Well, That's One Way for Marvel to Get X-Men Back (Disney Acquisition of Fox)

[DarthVedder]

X-2
First Class
Days of Future past

All these are great, and the first X-Men movie and The Wolverine are also pretty good, better than the first two Thor movies and the last two Iron Man. I'm fine with them remaining independent, and I'm pretty sure that Disney wouldn't have greenlighted Deadpool and Logan, even with those small budgets.

 

[BusSport]

Under AT&T, Time Warner will be renamed WarnerMedia in order to help distinguish it from Time Warner Cable (which was spun-off a decade ago in 2009).

 

[BusSport]

Disney answers back, per Hollywood Reporter:

"Disney Boosts Fox Bid to $71.3 Billion in Cash and Stock"

 

[Breed]

I know if I like this... I LOVE the new direction Fox is taking with the X-Men franchise, with smaller and interesting movies including a Horror movie.

I'm not sure Disney would have green-lighted Logan or Deadpool, probably the two best CB movies of the last few years.

I liked Thor: Ragnarok better than both of them. Also liked Winter Soldier better as well. Logan and Deadpool were cool though.

 

[DarthVedder]

I liked Thor: Ragnarok better than both of them. Also liked Winter Soldier better as well. Logan and Deadpool were cool though.

Both have their share of GREAT movies... Marvel studios have a higher batting average, but it's not like Fox has screwed up the X-Men Universe.

While I'd like some crossovers, I don't want to lose what Fox brings to the table, especially the different movies with adult themes and/or edgier comedy.

Deadpool in the MCU would be just another fast-talking G-Rated comedian... they already have enough of those.

 

[BusSport]

Deadpool in the MCU would be just another fast-talking G-Rated comedian... they already have enough of those.

Marvel Studios deserves more credit than that. They've been more successful than any other superhero movie studio because they generally understand the core of each lead character and adjust the movie accordingly. Guardians of the Galaxy is a very different movie in tone from Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

Disney can go dark when it's warranted by the character. See Jessica Jones or The Punisher for examples. They haven't had a Marvel movie (rather than TV series) that would be rated R yet, but Disney didn't have have sufficiently-popular naturally-R-rated characters to try to build a film franchise around other than Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and Punisher, all three of which weren't good choices to build around in the early years of the MCU because those characters' failed movies from the 2000s were still fresh on audience minds, and the MCU was focused on developing characters that were new to live-action film.

If/once Disney gets Deadpool, a sufficiently-popular naturally-R-rated character will finally be in their hands, and Disney's CEO Bob Iger has stated that Deadpool can remain R-rated if/when Disney acquires it.

 

[BusSport]

Disney can go dark when it's warranted by the character. See Jessica Jones or The Punisher for examples. They haven't had a Marvel movie (rather than TV series) that would be rated R yet, but Disney didn't have have sufficiently-popular naturally-R-rated characters to try to build a film franchise around other than Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and Punisher, all three of which weren't good choices to build around in the early years of the MCU because those characters' failed movies from the 2000s were still fresh on audience minds, and the MCU was focused on developing characters that were new to live-action film.

Actually, I misremembered the rights timeline in the previous post: Disney didn't get full rights for Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and Punisher back from other studios until 2012-2013.

So Disney's options were even more limited. It wasn't just a matter of those characters not being good choices in building the early MCU; those characters were not available to Disney at all.

So it isn't that Disney is bad at or unwilling to make R-rated superhero films. It's that they didn't have good options with which to make R-rated superhero films.

 

[DarthVedder]

Marvel Studios deserves more credit than that. They've been more successful than any other superhero movie studio because they generally understand the core of each lead character and adjust the movie accordingly. Guardians of the Galaxy is a very different movie in tone from Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

Disney can go dark when it's warranted by the character. See Jessica Jones or The Punisher for examples. They haven't had a Marvel movie (rather than TV series) that would be rated R yet, but Disney didn't have have sufficiently-popular naturally-R-rated characters to try to build a film franchise around other than Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and Punisher, all three of which weren't good choices to build around in the early years of the MCU because those characters' failed movies from the 2000s were still fresh on audience minds, and the MCU was focused on developing characters that were new to live-action film.

If/once Disney gets Deadpool, a sufficiently-popular naturally-R-rated character will finally be in their hands, and Disney's CEO Bob Iger has stated that Deadpool can remain R-rated if/when Disney acquires it.

I give Marvel a lot of credit. They've built a great universe and have produced a lot of great movies... They are so great that it's pretty difficult to select a top-10 out of the MCU movies, because you'd leave a bunch of worthy movies out.

But even if the movies differ in genre, there is a certain MCU DNA in all of them, which is basically:

1. Lots of comedy, fast talking characters.
2. All the movies have to be lighthearted and family friendly. Limit the darkness/sense of dread.
3. Keep the on-screen casualties as low as possible. The only movie with actual on screen casualties is AIW.

As an example, they hint at Stark's problems with alcoholism and anxiety, but it's never explored in a serious manner, and they even used it for some goofiness.

The only movie (and probably their best movie) that has explored dark themes and has made us face the casualties is Avengers Infinity Wars. But they finally did this after about 20 lighthearted movies. Of course NOW that Deadpool has been ridiculously successful, they are saying that they'd keep it R-Rated, but I highly doubt that they'd have taken the chance in the first place. IMO, a Disney Deadpool would have been just another Spiderman.

This is not criticism. That's their formula, and it has produced great and enjoyable results. It's just that I like having other different formulas to choose from, and I especially like Fox's approach of having vastly different movies and taking chances with different movies and lower budgets. I hope "The New Mutants" live up to its potential.

 

[BusSport]

LA Times: "Disney-Fox deal wins antitrust approval; Comcast considers bidding higher"

 

[BusSport]

Date for Fox to vote on whether to accept Disney's bid has been set for July 27!

 

[DarthVedder]

LA Times: "Disney-Fox deal wins antitrust approval; Comcast considers bidding higher"

What is even the point of antitrust procedures? This is exactly the kind of deal they are supposed to prevent.

 

[calsnowskier]

What is even the point of antitrust procedures? This is exactly the kind of deal they are supposed to prevent.

Meh. Is it?

The days of the tv network are almost extinct and the days of the major movie studio are on their way out right around the corner. With streaming (both producing and distributing) becoming a bigger and bigger thing, I dont think this kind of canibalism is a bad thing.

 

[DarthVedder]

I can't think of many instances in which less competition turned out to be better for consumers.

 

[RegentDenali]

If they would’ve released solo at a better time than around the time Deadpool came out, they would’ve gotten a much better reception.

Wrong.

 

[BusSport]

"Fox Shareholder Sues to Stop Disney Acquisition"

 

[BusSport]

Comcast has withdrawn!

Variety: "Comcast Drops Out of Bidding War With Disney for 21st Century Fox Assets"

 

[Battlelyon]

Good we don't need Comcast fucking shit up. They got big because they were the only real option for people that wanted to watch television, and in doing so they rewarded their customers with shitty customer service and price gouging.

 

[BusSport]

Shareholder vote passes!

The Hollywood Reporter: "Disney, Fox Shareholders Approve $71.3 Billion Deal"

Variety: "Disney, 21st Century Fox Shareholders Vote to Approve $71.3 Billion Merger"

 

[Battlelyon]

 

[BusSport]

Reuters: "EU regulators to rule on Disney's $71 billion bid for Fox assets by October 19"