Trade Deadline Winners and Losers

[WiggyRuss]

Trade Deadline Winners/Losers/Incompletes:

WINNERS

Dallas Mavericks: added Porzingis, and opened up cap space for close to a max contract this summer. If they can add a big time player to go with Doncic and Porzingis watch out. This is a team on the rise

Philadelphia 76'ers: Paid a heavy price- but now have a great starting lineup. Harris is an amazing 4th option. This starting lineup is as good as any outside of Golden State. Simmons, Reddick, Butler, Harris and Embiid is a helluva job by them. "The Process" is complete.

Toronto Raptors: Adding Marc Gasol was a great get. He is not the defender he once was, but he can shoot, pass, is still a decent defender, and adds a ton of experience. He is a great teammate. Raptors are gonna be a tough fucking out. I sure hope we get a Raptors/Sixers ECF

Milwaukee Bucks: All of a sudden you have Mirotic and Lopez spreading the floor- taking a big out of the middle of the lane for Giannis. Wow.

Sacramento Kings: Did not give up much and brought in Harrison Barnes- a solid 3rd/4th option, and a solid bench player in Burks.

Cleveland Cavaliers: Obviously not all the deals were done at the deadline- but the Cavs turned 2 guys- Korver and George Hill into two 1st round picks and six 2nd round picks and did not have to take back one contract that goes past next year

Los Angeles Clippers: traded 3 months of Tobias Harris and Boban for 2 1st round picks- and they really had no intention of giving Harris a max contract to stay. All of a sudden have tons of cap flexibility and a nice handful of assets to make a deal with. They instantly become a contender for DAvis and can build a deal around SGA and the Miami unprotected 1st rounder if they want to.


LOSERS:

Los Angeles Lakers: The ploy to try and get AD failed spectacularly. Added Bullock and Muscala- two guys that I doubt will even be in the post season rotation. Could not get anything significant done.

Washington Wizards: Traded away Otto Porter Jr., their former #3 overall pick for cap relief, gave away Morris for cap relief, refused to part with Trevor Ariza for some reason even though they are going no where and he could have brought them an asset. Makes no sense to give an aging vet like Ariza money if they are going to try and rebuild.

Charlotte Hornets: Were in rumors for Marc Gasol but could not get anything done. Looks like either a late playoff seed or the lotto once again.

Phoenix Suns: Were never able to land the real point guard they so desperately need-instead added Tyler Johnson and his 19M dollar deal for next year to an already very crowded wing group. Shoe-horning TJ into point guard does not seem like the best decision.

Orlando Magic: Vucevic is a free agent- if they do not have an intention to resign him they should have dealt him. If he walks as a free agent this was a major missed opportunity. Seemed to give up quite a bit for Fultz but we shall see how that gamble works out.

INCOMPLETE:

New York Knicks- we wont know if the Porzingis deal was genius or awful until this summer

Boston Celtics: Had to sit on their hands and could not give away assets in anticipation of going for Davis this summer.

New Orleans Pelicans: This summer will show whether it was a good decision to wait or not. I think it will end up being a good decision but that is no guarantee.

 

[msgkings322]

Winner: Golden State. Because they win everything.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

 

[msgkings322]

Gotta give some credit to LeBron, by leaving the East he let these 4 teams unlock their energy and try to build something. They are building their own great teams, someone's gotta come after the Ws.

It's kind of exciting seeing new storylines and new teams trying to rise up. Ws won't always be there.

 

[tlance]

Trade Deadline Winners/Losers/Incompletes:

WINNERS

Dallas Mavericks: added Porzingis, and opened up cap space for close to a max contract this summer. If they can add a big time player to go with Doncic and Porzingis watch out. This is a team on the rise

Philadelphia 76'ers: Paid a heavy price- but now have a great starting lineup. Harris is an amazing 4th option. This starting lineup is as good as any outside of Golden State. Simmons, Reddick, Butler, Harris and Embiid is a helluva job by them. "The Process" is complete.

Toronto Raptors: Adding Marc Gasol was a great get. He is not the defender he once was, but he can shoot, pass, is still a decent defender, and adds a ton of experience. He is a great teammate. Raptors are gonna be a tough fucking out. I sure hope we get a Raptors/Sixers ECF

Milwaukee Bucks: All of a sudden you have Mirotic and Lopez spreading the floor- taking a big out of the middle of the lane for Giannis. Wow.

Sacramento Kings: Did not give up much and brought in Harrison Barnes- a solid 3rd/4th option, and a solid bench player in Burks.

Cleveland Cavaliers: Obviously not all the deals were done at the deadline- but the Cavs turned 2 guys- Korver and George Hill into two 1st round picks and six 2nd round picks and did not have to take back one contract that goes past next year

Los Angeles Clippers: traded 3 months of Tobias Harris and Boban for 2 1st round picks- and they really had no intention of giving Harris a max contract to stay. All of a sudden have tons of cap flexibility and a nice handful of assets to make a deal with. They instantly become a contender for DAvis and can build a deal around SGA and the Miami unprotected 1st rounder if they want to.


LOSERS:

Los Angeles Lakers: The ploy to try and get AD failed spectacularly. Added Bullock and Muscala- two guys that I doubt will even be in the post season rotation. Could not get anything significant done.

Washington Wizards: Traded away Otto Porter Jr., their former #3 overall pick for cap relief, gave away Morris for cap relief, refused to part with Trevor Ariza for some reason even though they are going no where and he could have brought them an asset. Makes no sense to give an aging vet like Ariza money if they are going to try and rebuild.

Charlotte Hornets: Were in rumors for Marc Gasol but could not get anything done. Looks like either a late playoff seed or the lotto once again.

Phoenix Suns: Were never able to land the real point guard they so desperately need-instead added Tyler Johnson and his 19M dollar deal for next year to an already very crowded wing group. Shoe-horning TJ into point guard does not seem like the best decision.

Orlando Magic: Vucevic is a free agent- if they do not have an intention to resign him they should have dealt him. If he walks as a free agent this was a major missed opportunity. Seemed to give up quite a bit for Fultz but we shall see how that gamble works out.

INCOMPLETE:

New York Knicks- we wont know if the Porzingis deal was genius or awful until this summer

Boston Celtics: Had to sit on their hands and could not give away assets in anticipation of going for Davis this summer.

New Orleans Pelicans: This summer will show whether it was a good decision to wait or not. I think it will end up being a good decision but that is no guarantee.

Can't disagree with any of this.

In a vacuum, the Wizards moves weren't terrible. But they should have done more. Should have done much more.

 

[wildturkey]

Short term I think its the Bucks. I really like the Mirotic move because it basically shores up one of their only deficiencies. They can trot out line ups that are gonna be really hard to defend.

Long term, its the Mavericks. They locked in a potential 2 star core for years to come and they opened up a bunch of cap space to fill out the rest of the roster this summer

 

[Nosferatu]

Loser : Minnesota for not doing whatever needed to move Wiggins and/or Dieng

 

[msgkings322]

Short term I think its the Bucks. I really like the Mirotic move because it basically shores up one of their only deficiencies. They can trot out line ups that are gonna be really hard to defend.

Long term, its the Mavericks. They locked in a potential 2 star core for years to come and they opened up a bunch of cap space to fill out the rest of the roster this summer

So, KD to Dallas confirmed? Native son of Texas, the press would make sweet love to him forever. Kinda makes too much sense.

 

[wildturkey]

So, KD to Dallas confirmed? Native son of Texas, the press would make sweet love to him forever. Kinda makes too much sense.

Lol. That dude is so butthurt right now that the only explanation is he's going to the Knicks and is upset that he's already getting shit for it. But Dallas would be a great basketball fit for him. That Luka/KD two man game...sheesh.

Also, he's a native of Maryland. Went to college at Texas

 

[msgkings322]

Lol. That dude is so butthurt right now that the only explanation is he's going to the Knicks and is upset that he's already getting shit for it. But Dallas would be a great basketball fit for him. That Luka/KD two man game...sheesh.

Also, he's a native of Maryland. Went to college at Texas

Right, duh, that's why there used to be KD to DC chatter.



Press would still baby him just right.

 

[flyerhawk]

For the near term the clear winners were the Sixers, Bucks, Raptors in the order.

The Sixers clearly were the team that most improved itself this week. They gave up a lot to do it certainly and that may haunt them down the road but given where they are with their 2 young stars they really had to strike now. The only real question I would have had is whether they could have made a similar deal to bring in Kemba Walker who might have been a slightly better fit for the Sixers.

The Bucks also significantly improved themselves with Mirotic. There are some injury concerns with him and he's not quite the upgrade that Harris but he definitely just made the team with the best record in the NBA even better.

Raptors might wind up being the best team if Gasol if he can stay healthy and keep his energy levels up which might be tough for him.

 

[shopson67]

For the near term the clear winners were the Sixers, Bucks, Raptors in the order.

The Sixers clearly were the team that most improved itself this week. They gave up a lot to do it certainly and that may haunt them down the road but given where they are with their 2 young stars they really had to strike now. The only real question I would have had is whether they could have made a similar deal to bring in Kemba Walker who might have been a slightly better fit for the Sixers.

The Bucks also significantly improved themselves with Mirotic. There are some injury concerns with him and he's not quite the upgrade that Harris but he definitely just made the team with the best record in the NBA even better.

Raptors might wind up being the best team if Gasol if he can stay healthy and keep his energy levels up which might be tough for him.

Agreed. Was just going to say that the winners/losers depends on whether we're talking near term or future. Dallas drops down a bit for near term rankings.

 

[shopson67]

Bullock and Muscala will both be in the playoff rotations. Lakers can't rely on McGee/Chandler alone at C, and Wagner is too green yet. Bullock will be their 3/D guy off the bench, might bump Hart down a rung if he can't get his shot going.

Cheap acquisitions to bolster their perimeter shooting, solid (if small) moves.

 

[flyerhawk]

Agreed. Was just going to say that the winners/losers depends on whether we're talking near term or future. Dallas drops down a bit for near term rankings.

The Mavs are either going to be the clear cut winner of the trade deadline or one of the big losers. They are taking a huge gamble on Ziggy. Which I honestly think is a pretty good idea for them. IMO, teams don't take enough risks in the NBA. Too many teams think they can acquire a big FA that they never wind up acquiring. So they get stuck being the worst thing in the NBA, average.

 

[flyerhawk]

Bullock and Muscala will both be in the playoff rotations. Lakers can't rely on McGee/Chandler alone at C, and Wagner is too green yet. Bullock will be their 3/D guy off the bench, might bump Hart down a rung if he can't get his shot going.

Cheap acquisitions to bolster their perimeter shooting, solid (if small) moves.

Muscala isn't a center. He will get torn up in the playoffs playing the 5 more than a few minutes a game.

 

[shopson67]

Muscala isn't a center. He will get torn up in the playoffs playing the 5 more than a few minutes a game.

He will be used on a match-up basis, against perimeter (or small ball) centers.

 

[flyerhawk]

He will be used on a match-up basis, against perimeter (or small ball) centers.

Yeah he can do that.

 

[shopson67]

Yeah he can do that.

Both of the Lakers' moves basically showed a lack of trust in their rookies to fulfill specific roles. Svi was traded for his replacement, and Zubac was traded for Wagner's.

 

[raptorlife4]

 

[raptorlife4]