The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[fightinfunbags]

They upgraded cast around him but it's still not on par with Denver's supporting cast.

Luka has been playing out of his mind. I think Luka deserves strong consideration for it.

The rules have changed in sports. People judge play now based on analytics. That’s why Joker will end up winning like 5 or 6 of these things. He’s playing at the right time and he’s being propped up by guys like this who are telling the world what is to be valued in basketball. In this guy’s world a Luka assist is worth 1 unit and a Joker assist is worth 1.8 units. The game is rigged.

 

[DJ]

The rules have changed in sports. People judge play now based on analytics. That’s why Joker will end up winning like 5 or 6 of these things. He’s playing at the right time and he’s being propped up by guys like this who are telling the world what is to be valued in basketball. In this guy’s world a Luka assist is worth 1 unit and a Joker assist is worth 1.8 units. The game is rigged.

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[thunderc]

The rules have changed in sports. People judge play now based on analytics. That’s why Joker will end up winning like 5 or 6 of these things. He’s playing at the right time and he’s being propped up by guys like this who are telling the world what is to be valued in basketball. In this guy’s world a Luka assist is worth 1 unit and a Joker assist is worth 1.8 units. The game is rigged.

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To be clear, you aren’t arguing that Embiid should be considered this season are you?

 

[fightinfunbags]

When you watch Nikola Jokic play do you see the best player in the history of the game to ever lace ‘em up? Because that’s the picture created by these people who lean solely upon advanced metrics to determine who is good and who isn’t.

 

[fightinfunbags]

To be clear, you aren’t arguing that Embiid should be considered this season are you?

Nope.

 

[The Q]

The rules have changed in sports. People judge play now based on analytics. That’s why Joker will end up winning like 5 or 6 of these things. He’s playing at the right time and he’s being propped up by guys like this who are telling the world what is to be valued in basketball. In this guy’s world a Luka assist is worth 1 unit and a Joker assist is worth 1.8 units. The game is rigged.

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Toni,

Give it up man

Jokic is the dude

Your boy got his participation trophy last year

Be happy with that

 

[DJ]

Toni,

Give it up man

Jokic is the dude

Your boy got his participation trophy last year

Be happy with that

Toni Kukoc's comments were hilarious.

 

[eaglesnut]

To be clear, you aren’t arguing that Embiid should be considered this season are you?

Clearly the most valuable player in the whole league.

 

[tlance]

When you watch Nikola Jokic play do you see the best player in the history of the game to ever lace ‘em up? Because that’s the picture created by these people who lean solely upon advanced metrics to determine who is good and who isn’t.

Such a huge exaggeration.

Nobody trying to put Jokic in that category. He isn’t close to that.

But he is the best big man in the current era and arguably the best player in the league today.

Maybe if Embiid were able to play more often he could surpass Joker someday.

 

[The Q]

Toni Kukoc's comments were hilarious.

I feel so blessed we have a former nba player posting here

 

[eaglesnut]

No I’m not.

You taking 1 part of my quote out of context.

Embiid is not the superior player you make him out to be.

It is very debatebale who is better overall.

Yes he is and you don't watch him. You only tally up the games played. Try seeing with your eyes next time he's on the court.

You do have them, eyes, don't you?

 

[DJ]

I feel so blessed we have a former nba player posting here

 

[fightinfunbags]

Such a huge exaggeration.

No…it’s not. These numbers that media are so in love with tell that story. They’re going to actualize it as well when they continue to foolishly embrace analytics and analytics only in their votes.

Nobody trying to put Jokic in that category. He isn’t close to that.

And yet when the world of basketball leans heavily upon analytics this is the picture created.

But he is the best big man in the current era and arguably the best player in the league today.

Then stop saying you value two way play. You’re a liar.

Maybe if Embiid were able to play more often he could surpass Joker someday.

He has always been better than Jokic. Injury doesn’t change that reality.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

The rules have changed in sports. People judge play now based on analytics. That’s why Joker will end up winning like 5 or 6 of these things. He’s playing at the right time and he’s being propped up by guys like this who are telling the world what is to be valued in basketball. In this guy’s world a Luka assist is worth 1 unit and a Joker assist is worth 1.8 units. The game is rigged.

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Definitely VORP is going to be absurdly slanted towards Jokic because of his assists from the center position. It's undoubtedly very valuable but with the way it's scored a Jokic assist is the most valuable play in the game. Which is stupid of course.

 

[eaglesnut]

No…it’s not. These numbers that media are so in love with tell that story. They’re going to actualize it as well when they continue to foolishly embrace analytics and analytics only in their votes.

And yet when the world of basketball leans heavily upon analytics this is the picture created.

Then stop saying you value two way play. You’re a liar.

He has always been better than Jokic. Injury doesn’t change that reality.

Even with only a single functional leg Embiid is better than Jokic on the defensive end.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[bksballer89]

Except when your bitch ass getting choked out by draymond

 

[DJ]

Except when your bitch ass getting choked out by draymond

Wow.

What a huge pussy.

 

[Duffman]

Even with only a single functional leg Embiid is better than Jokic on the defensive end.

Yo that’s crazy, Joker is the 5th best defensive rated player this year, that must mean Embiid is number one according to your logic.

2024 NBA Individual Defensive Rating Rankings | StatMuse

Rudy Gobert had the best defensive rating this season, with a 104.4 rating.

www.statmuse.com

Never mind that Jokic in 24 is a better rated defenseman than Embiid was last season. This season Embiid would be number one in offense and defense according to you all.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Definitely VORP is going to be absurdly slanted towards Jokic because of his assists from the center position. It's undoubtedly very valuable but with the way it's scored a Jokic assist is the most valuable play in the game. Which is stupid of course.

Agreed. Don’t get me wrong. An assist has immense value in the game of basketball. The position you play changes that value by 80% because of the position you play?!?!?