Special Teams

[DCWV4life]

So special teams had nothing to do with Pitt loss, but somehow we should fire everyone over MD win???

 

[WVUDAD]

Ummm... 9+3+3=13???



Hang on, let me get my 4th grader in here to 'splain this...

sPitt gave the safety ON PURPOSE late in the game to not give us the opportunity to block the punt. 7+3+3=13

 

[WVUDAD]

I am guessing Bill Snyder and KST special teams coach we will be called on to resign today...(DH Rules)

I don't understand why you guys put physical errors on the same plane as what the kids are being taught. HUGE difference between a fumble, dropped pass, missed FG, and being coached to bring the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs, going for it on 4th and 4 in the red zone with a great kicker, coaching defenders to strip the ball rather than tackling. WOW

 

[Mac_Bridger]

sPitt gave the safety ON PURPOSE late in the game to not give us the opportunity to block the punt. 7+3+3=13

Already pointed out. Don't be a douchebag.

 

[WVUDAD]

Already pointed out. Don't be a douchebag.

REALLY? with YOUR fourth grader comment?????

 

[Mac_Bridger]

REALLY? with YOUR fourth grader comment?????

I was wrong and got called out on it. I forget things, that safety being one of them. So yeah, it would have been 13 all. Now that I'm done feeling like I just talked to my 4th grader, having had to repeat myself 3 times...

 

[DCWV4life]

Looks like we need to keep a running score for this..

Oklahoma IMO you have to say this is another check in the negative column.

Lambert looked great booting a 54 yard FG and that boosted the crowd, but the damn 100 yard return right after we went up seven and looked very impressive just took the wind out of our sails.

I am the first to say don't fire a coach during the middle of a season, but damn if we keep up this offensive attack and every time we turn around they are putting one in the endzone on special teams for a score we have to can him.

So Report card so far:

Alabama-A
Towson-A
Maryland-C-
Oklahoma-D-

I still think Defforest can turn these teams around and he has brought us some great talent kicking wise, but damn he has to fix these things sooner rather than later or we will not win big games like Saturday.

 

[WVUDAD]

Looks like we need to keep a running score for this..

Oklahoma IMO you have to say this is another check in the negative column.

Lambert looked great booting a 54 yard FG and that boosted the crowd, but the damn 100 yard return right after we went up seven and looked very impressive just took the wind out of our sails.

I am the first to say don't fire a coach during the middle of a season, but damn if we keep up this offensive attack and every time we turn around they are putting one in the endzone on special teams for a score we have to can him.

So Report card so far:

Alabama-A
Towson-A
Maryland-C-
Oklahoma-D-

I still think Defforest can turn these teams around and he has brought us some great talent kicking wise, but damn he has to fix these things sooner rather than later or we will not win big games like Saturday.

There are more negatives than positives on STs so far this year, WVU is returning punts at 7 yds per, giving up 24 yds per, we have given up a punt and kickoff return for a TD, we are missing one in three FG attempts, and every bad play by STs seems to occur at a critical time in the games. ALSO hurting are turnovers, WVU has turned the ball over through fumbles and INTs 8 times in four games, while forcing only 3 INTs, we have not received a fumble recovery yet this year.

 

[bbwvfan]

While Coach DeForrest is the ST Coordinator, I think he coaches the kickers. The coverage teams are coached by Galloway. As with any job, the responsibility for the ST's falls on the coordinator... but, it isn't like Joe is failing to coach up the coverage teams. That would be Lonnie.

ST's have been a problem for a long time with WVU. This ain't nothing new.

Under Stewart, WVU had one of the worst coverage teams in the country.

 

[WVUDAD]

While Coach DeForrest is the ST Coordinator, I think he coaches the kickers. The coverage teams are coached by Galloway. As with any job, the responsibility for the ST's falls on the coordinator... but, it isn't like Joe is failing to coach up the coverage teams. That would be Lonnie.

ST's have been a problem for a long time with WVU. This ain't nothing new.

Under Stewart, WVU had one of the worst coverage teams in the country.

HUH, WVU gave up more kickoff returns for TD Saturday than the entire time Stewart was STC alone.

 

[mountaineers44]

2008 Cincinnati opening kickoff went for TD. Wasn't he STC then?

 

[DCWV4life]

Kickoff return rank 08- 118 09-105

 

[bbwvfan]

In 2008, WVU was third to last in KO return defense... #117

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&rpt=IA_teamkoreturndef&site=org&div=IA&dest=O

 

[bbwvfan]

In 2009, WVU was ranked #104 in KO return defense...

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2009&rpt=IA_teamkoreturndef&site=org&div=IA&dest=O

 

[bbwvfan]

Like I said... this ain't nothing new...

Doesn't mean it doesn't need to be fixed... just an ongoing issue for this program...

 

[Slaton10]

Like I said... this ain't nothing new...

Doesn't mean it doesn't need to be fixed... just an ongoing issue for this program...

Giving up TD's in back to back weeks is alarming...they have to get this fixed...

 

[WVUDAD]

2008 Cincinnati opening kickoff went for TD. Wasn't he STC then?

Yet again, read the post, THEN respond, 2008 he was HC, taking time away from ST. I said when he was ONLY STC, just as Efore is today.

 

[WVUDAD]

If you want to talk 2008 to present: given up: 2008 28 yds/KOreturn by opponent , 2009 24.2, 2010 20.7, 2011 23.8, 2012 23.7, 2013 22.9, 2014 to date 26.1. TD returns: 2008 1, 2009 1, 2010 0, 2011 2, 2012 1, 2013 0, 2014 to date 1.




cfbstats.com - 2014 West Virginia Mountaineers

 

[WVUDAD]

In 2009, WVU was ranked #104 in KO return defense...

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2009&rpt=IA_teamkoreturndef&site=org&div=IA&dest=O

2007 #55, 2006 # 9, 2005 # 36
AND in 2011, #101, 2012, #99

Stewart was VERY effective as STC, less so when he had to do both HC and STC jobs. Just as Holgorsen was a great OC, but much less so when wearing the HC hat.

BB, try comparing apples to apples, Efore is STC, not HC AND STC.

 

[mountaineers44]

Fair enough. I was confused since I only saw him in the ST huddles though the games.