So who is saltier this morning over KD?

[Mecca]

See my last response to Tharv...why is it okay for a role player but not a star player?

It's kinda obvious WHY....

.....even if I don't necessarily agree with him.

Guys don't want to compete.

They want to tip the scales so far into their direction that winning is a cake walk.

Kerr and Horry helped win. But, it wouldn't have been possible to be in the position to tip the scales had Shaq, Kobe, Duncan not been on those rosters.

Imagine if Prime Dream would have joined the 72 win Bulls....

That's basically what Durant did.

What Horry and Kerr did is more like Gary Payton to the Heat...

 

[Mecca]

But who's to say which kind of players can switch to a loaded team, and which can't? nobody told LeBron he couldn't go to Miami because he was a superstar, and they had won a title four years earlier. Who gets to make up the rules that says "players of a certain caliber can't go to certain teams that have won titles within X number of years?"

Durant only did what Lebron did, which was move to a team where he thought he'd have the best chance of winning. It just paid out quicker for KD.

^ This ^

We don't get to decide what these guys do.

But, we can still complain about it....lol

 

[Black Adam]

It's kinda obvious WHY....

.....even if I don't necessarily agree with him.

Guys don't want to compete.

They want to tip the scales so far into their direction that winning is a cake walk.

Kerr and Horry helped win. But, it wouldn't have been possible to be in the position to tip the scales had Shaq, Kobe, Duncan not been on those rosters.

Imagine if Prime Dream would have joined the 72 win Bulls....

That's basically what Durant did.

What Horry and Kerr did is more like Gary Payton to the Heat...

is what it is these days, but yeah, most athletes now are like water. they try to flow down the path of least resistance...

 

[Mecca]

is what it is these days, but yeah, most athletes now are like water. they try to flow down the path of least resistance...

Perfectly stated.....

 

[msgkings322]

is what it is these days, but yeah, most athletes now are like water. they try to flow down the path of least resistance...

If the rules on free agency and player movement existed back in the day like they do today, a lot of those tough old legends doing it "the hard way" would have joined superteams too. Players do it today because they CAN

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

I understand why KD did it perfectly well. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

I'm just old school in wanting superstars to stick with their own teams. I know that's outdated thinking. Honestly, we're only going to see more of it in the future too. Why stick around and struggle on your team when you can join LeBron's team and be guaranteed a spot in the finals, or join the warriors for a paycut and be guaranteed to win a few titles?

The NBA probably needs a franchise tag like the NFL has since single players can so drastically change a team.

I hear ya, but I feel like it's been going on longer than Lebron/Bosh/Wade. I'm sure everyone in the league back in the early 90's would have loved to play alongside MJ, if only the Bulls would have come calling and offered enough cash. I don't know/care enough about the salary caps and all that jazz but money has always had a lot to do with it

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

If the rules on free agency and player movement existed back in the day like they do today, a lot of those tough old legends doing it "the hard way" would have joined superteams too. Players do it today because they CAN

I see I's been ninja'd

 

[Robotech]

I hear ya, but I feel like it's been going on longer than Lebron/Bosh/Wade. I'm sure everyone in the league back in the early 90's would have loved to play alongside MJ, if only the Bulls would have come calling and offered enough cash. I don't know/care enough about the salary caps and all that jazz but money has always had a lot to do with it

No single player should be responsible for maintaining competitive balance in the league. I can't fault KD for wanting to leave Russ and go to the best workplace available.

 

[Tharvot]

I hear ya, but I feel like it's been going on longer than Lebron/Bosh/Wade. I'm sure everyone in the league back in the early 90's would have loved to play alongside MJ, if only the Bulls would have come calling and offered enough cash. I don't know/care enough about the salary caps and all that jazz but money has always had a lot to do with it

Off the top of my head, the first "super team" that was created through free agency was the Celtics with Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen. Even then, those guys were on the later side of their careers, though still clearly good enough to win a title.

The next big one was obviously the Miami squad with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. There wasn't much blowback that I can remember with the Celtics since they were so terrible prior to the move. "The Decision" really tainted the Heat super team for most people...that and how shitty and cocky LeBron and Wade were during those 4 years.

The LaMarcus Aldridge move to the Spurs was supposed to make them incredible, but that hasn't worked out all that well.

And finally the KD to the Warriors move, which aside from "The Decision" has been the highest profile player to make a big move.

 

[Raw_Bee808]

Off the top of my head, the first "super team" that was created through free agency was the Celtics with Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen. Even then, those guys were on the later side of their careers, though still clearly good enough to win a title.

The next big one was obviously the Miami squad with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. There wasn't much blowback that I can remember with the Celtics since they were so terrible prior to the move. "The Decision" really tainted the Heat super team for most people...that and how shitty and cocky LeBron and Wade were during those 4 years.

The LaMarcus Aldridge move to the Spurs was supposed to make them incredible, but that hasn't worked out all that well.

And finally the KD to the Warriors move, which aside from "The Decision" has been the highest profile player to make a big move.

Pierce was drafted by the Celtics, and KG and Ray were both traded to Boston.

 

[Tharvot]

Pierce was drafted by the Celtics, and KG and Ray were both traded to Boston.

Ok, I knew Pierce was there but couldn't remember how KG and Ray got there.

 

[Scapegoat]

No single player should be responsible for maintaining competitive balance in the league. I can't fault KD for wanting to leave Russ and go to the best workplace available.

As long as they go to your team.

CJ McCollum battles Warriors fans on Twitter about Kevin Durant

 

[msgkings322]

As long as they go to your team.

CJ McCollum battles Warriors fans on Twitter about Kevin Durant

I wouldn't fault KD if he'd gone to another team besides the Warriors. That kind of butthurt is more an OKC thing.

 

[Robotech]

As long as they go to your team.

CJ McCollum battles Warriors fans on Twitter about Kevin Durant

I get it. Many fans wanted KD to either go to their team or stay in OKC, so many of them are very angry about his decision. Someone even called Durant's decision "heinous." People have a right to feel however they want, but that people have certain feelings doesn't mean Durant is at fault.

 

[Scapegoat]

I wouldn't fault KD if he'd gone to another team besides the Warriors. That kind of butthurt is more an OKC thing.

I never knew CJ McCollum was from OKC.

 

[msgkings322]

I never knew CJ McCollum was from OKC.

No one knows everything

 

[Robotech]

I never knew CJ McCollum was from OKC.

He's from Ohio. Maybe he's a Cavs fan.

 

[elguapo]

In truth all true fans should be upset, the overall product was seriously degraded. Nothing good can come from letting the inmates run the asylum.

ooohhh !! I am telling! You can't say that, that is racist!

 

[Wishbone]

I dont think anyone will take KD as a true champion until he leaves and proves he can win with his own team.

 

[thunderc]

I dont think anyone will take KD as a true champion until he leaves and proves he can win with his own team.

Including himself.