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Rank the top 4 Big Ten programs going forward

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1. Ohio State
2. Wisconsin
3. Penn State
4. Michigan State
 

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In the running for #4

Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Northwestern
 

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I'll bite.....

I'm bias, but in no particular order I'd say the most consistently good teams going forward will be Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State and Wisconsin. I think the order will change pretty drastically depending on schedule and strength of the roster on any particular year. Wisconsin has it a bit easier because their division is garbage. We'll see what happens with Nebraska. Iowa and Northwestern are really just perpetual upset teams. Dangerous enough to upset one of the best teams, but never really a threat to win the conference.
 

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Based on

@ Notre Dame
Nebraska
@Northwestern
Wisconsin
@ Michigan St
Penn St
@ Ohio St

I say Jimmy Jam bolts after another 8 win campaign.

So,

Ohio St
Penn St
Wisconsin
Mich St.
 

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Based on

@ Notre Dame
Nebraska
@Northwestern
Wisconsin
@ Michigan St
Penn St
@ Ohio St

I say Jimmy Jam bolts after another 8 win campaign.

So,

Ohio St
Penn St
Wisconsin
Mich St.
AKA, based on no knowledge of returning rosters.....
 

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If you're going solely on consistency it's gotta be

1. OSU
2. Wisconsin
3. MSU

4 is tough . PSU, Iowa and Michigan should all be considered but Michigan would be last of those 3 for me until it's a guarantee Harbaugh is there long term
 

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AKA, based on no knowledge of returning rosters.....

You've had 3 top 5 recruiting classes in the last 5 years...Patterson can only overcome so much shitty coaching.

If you struggled to 8-4 playing half of those teams this year, you're going to struggle playing all of them next year. AKA, better team, same 8-4 shitty record.
 

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You've had 3 top 5 recruiting classes in the last 5 years...Patterson can only overcome so much shitty coaching.

If you struggled to 8-4 playing half of those teams this year, you're going to struggle playing all of them next year. AKA, better team, same 8-4 shitty record.
No, we've had 2 top 6 recruiting classes in the past 2 years. AKA -- all Fresh or Soph. The previous classes were ranked 37th and 20th....which were our seniors and juniors this year. That's why our team relied heavily on the young kids from the last couple classes and why we dipped this year. 13 of our starters are either Soph or Fresh. Because the kids from the top 5 classes in 2012/2013 were gone and the below-average talent from the 2014/2015 classes were our upperclassman. So like I said, you're talking out of your ass.

On top of that, teams like Northwestern, Penn State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Notre Dame lose 8+ seniors this year. Michigan loses about 4-5 starters.

Basically, get yours laughs in while you can. Next year Michigan is loaded and ready to knock some people out. Especially with if Patterson is eligible.
 

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Of course I am. We return a top 5 defense, and if Patterson is eligible -- have everything we need on offense to dominate. Of our 4 losses, 3 of them were simply because we couldn't score points at a certain point in the game. We could have, and should have, easily beat MSU, OSU and Wisconsin.
 

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No, we've had 2 top 6 recruiting classes in the past 2 years. AKA -- all Fresh or Soph. The previous classes were ranked 37th and 20th....which were our seniors and juniors this year. That's why our team relied heavily on the young kids from the last couple classes and why we dipped this year. 13 of our starters are either Soph or Fresh. Because the kids from the top 5 classes in 2012/2013 were gone and the below-average talent from the 2014/2015 classes were our upperclassman. So like I said, you're talking out of your ass.

On top of that, teams like Northwestern, Penn State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Notre Dame lose 8+ seniors this year. Michigan loses about 4-5 starters.

Basically, get yours laughs in while you can. Next year Michigan is loaded and ready to knock some people out. Especially with if Patterson is eligible.
Does it matter who your QB is if you have five turnstiles for an offensive line?
 

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Does it matter who your QB is if you have five turnstiles for an offensive line?
I'm confident that at some point the young guys will figure it out. The guards improved all year, the tackle is going to be an issue. The Newsom injury really set us back in that department.
 

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#1 Scott Frost
#2 Nebraska
#3 Who cares
#4 Who cares
Scott Frost is going to need some talent before he can do anything there. Nebraska's only selling point for a quick return is that they're in an easy division. Going to need more than the 42nd ranked recruiting class.
 

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Scott Frost is going to need some talent before he can do anything there. Nebraska's only selling point for a quick return is that they're in an easy division. Going to need more than the 42nd ranked recruiting class.
I have a secret to tell you, THe class isnt finished!! we are only done with early signing. lmfao
 

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Michigan is going to have to prove it at this point.
Until they do something, they aren't top 4.
 

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Of course I am. We return a top 5 defense, and if Patterson is eligible -- have everything we need on offense to dominate. Of our 4 losses, 3 of them were simply because we couldn't score points at a certain point in the game. We could have, and should have, easily beat MSU, OSU and Wisconsin.

LOL, top 5 defense...LOL. You needed Purdue to win their bowl game to have a win against a team with a winning record. You stat padding bitches aren't a top 5 defense in the B1G.

I'm glad y'all are drinking the kool-aid, that will make it funnier when you can't win 9 games next year.

Y'alls collective delusion is quite honestly my favorite thing about this board.

Jimmy Jam couldn't win a Super Bowl with 14 Pro Bowlers and he couldn't win the PAC with Andrew Luck at QB and USC on probation. He is literally the 4th best coach in your division and a walking talking clown, but drink up, more chuckles for the rest of us later on.
 
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