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[AlaskaGuy]

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Same old broken record by PAC/USC tools. I love how you guys flip-flop on OOC games. When Boise State was decent, you guys screamed that it was unfair that BSU had to play at most ONE good team per year in OOC games and NO-ONE in-conference and PAC teams had to play "the PAC in-conference schedule". When the shoe is on the other foot, NOW, only OOC games count. What BS! Look at all 12 games!

Teams play more games IN-conference than OOC games (when bowls are included it is roughly a 60:40 split).

When USC plays in a pussy conference then they must go OOC to get decent opponents.
Since 1946 (your time frame)...

USC has played 509 games (61.8%) IN conf and 314 OOC (38.2%) (including bowl games).

In the 509 IN conf games, 55 (10.8%) were vs T10 teams (yr end) and 122 (24.0%) were vs T25 teams (yr end).
In the 314 OOC games, 80 (25.6%) were vs T10 teams (yr end) and 123 (39.2%) were vs T25 teams (yr end). See more T10 and T25 teams OOC in 314 games than IN-conf T10 and T25 in 509 games.

When UF plays in a superior conference then they DON'T need to go OOC to get decent opponents.
Since 1946...
UF has played 497 games (60.8%) IN conf and 324 OOC (39.2%) (including bowl games).

In the 497 IN conf games 95 (19.2%) were vs T10 teams (yr end) and 180 (36.2%) were vs T25 teams (yr end).
In the 324 OOC games 53 (16.4%) were vs T10 teams (yr end) and 99 (30.6%) were vs T25 teams (yr end).

For comparison:
In the 823 total games USC played 135 (16.4%) T10 teams (yr end) and 245 (29.8%) T25 teams (yr end).
In the 821 total games UF played 148 (18.0%) T10 teams (yr end) and 279 (34.0%) T25 teams (yr end).

So, you go ahead and play the Boise State wannabe game and focus on 1 or 2 games per year. It WILL make you feel better. But, anytime you look at the ENTIRE schedule YOU WILL LOSE.

As far as traveling, again let's look at ALL games...
In the 823 total games USC played 412 games (50.1%) at home and 411 (49.9%) away and neutral sites.
In the 821 total games UF played 391 games (47.6%) at home and 430 (52.4%) away and neutral sites.

For USC
In the 412 home games 52 (12.6%) were vs T10 teams (yr end) and 106 (25.7%) were vs T25 teams (yr end).
For UF
In the 391 home games 49 (12.5%) were vs T10 teams (yr end) and 102 (26.1%) were vs T25 teams (yr end).

For USC
In the 411 away and neutral site games 83 (20.2%) were vs T10 teams (yr end) and 139 (33.8%) were vs T25 teams (yr end).
For UF
In the 430 away and neutral site games 99 (23.0%) were vs T10 teams (yr end) and 177 (41.2%) were vs T25 teams (yr end).

I repeat, you go ahead and play the Boise State wannabe game and focus on 1 or 2 games per year. It WILL make you feel better. But, anytime you look at the ENTIRE schedule YOU WILL LOSE.

USC has never played an FCS school in its entire history not to mention not only does USC play a 9 game conference schedule, it plays ND home & away year in and year out. That's automatically 10 P5 games right there.

 

[Gator]

History of FBS (I-A) vs. FCS (I-AA) » FootballGeography.com

Why does the SEC play so many cupcakes? Real schedules are the likes of UW, Sanford, and USC. Please explain why the giant SEC teams play a bunch of tiny schools, err sorry tiny bitches!

Jon, you are sooooo wrong! You are living in the past, son. STOP including UW along with Stanford and USC in scheduling arguments. The schedules AREN'T even close.

Here are the POWERHOUSES that UW has played OOC over the past FIVE seasons:
San Diego St.
LSU (only P5 opponent with a winning record)
Portland St. FCS
Boise St.
Illinois
Idaho St. FCS
Hawaii
Eastern Washington FCS
Illinois
Georgia State
Boise St.
Sacramento St. FCS
Utah St.
Rutgers
Idaho
Portland St. FCS.

WOW, those are some sucky teams. AND, you want to RAG on the SEC about OOC scheduling!! Go away!!

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Jon, you are sooooo wrong! You are living in the past, son. STOP including UW along with Stanford and USC in scheduling arguments. The schedules AREN'T even close.

Here are the POWERHOUSES that UW has played OOC over the past FIVE seasons:
San Diego St.
LSU (only P5 opponent with a winning record)
Portland St. FCS
Boise St.
Illinois
Idaho St. FCS
Hawaii
Eastern Washington FCS
Illinois
Georgia State
Boise St.
Sacramento St. FCS
Utah St.
Rutgers
Idaho
Portland St. FCS.

WOW, those are some sucky teams. AND, you want to RAG on the SEC about OOC scheduling!! Go away!!

Washington started scheduling those FCS teams 7 years ago when Sark saw how the SEC was working the system with the 8 game conference schedule along with a few sisters of the poor. Petersen has said he's gong to fix that and go back to how Washington used to schedule. Next season UW plays Auburn and BYU along with its normal 9 game conference schedule. But ya, UW's scheduling has pretty much sucked these past few years. No arguing that. Stanford, USC, UCLA and Cal on the other hand all have solid schedules year in and year out.

 

[huskers1217]

I can anywhere from 12-0 to 10-2. The most likely hiccups would be @Stanford (you have them on the road, late in the season) and Utah if they have a decent QB.

Wazzou is a possible loss because they are rivals, but you get them at home, so I think you win that one.

I guess I'll split the difference and say 11-1 with the loss being @Stanford.

chances USC and Udub go both have a undefeated regular season? wouldn't surprise me

 

[Gator]

USC has never played an FCS school in its entire history not to mention not only does USC play a 9 game conference schedule, it plays ND home & away year in and year out. That's automatically 10 P5 games right there.

Who cares? What about the quality of the opponents? Do you want to see why that argument is STUPID.

In 1978 the NCAA split D1 into D1A (majors) and D1AA (non majors).
Since 1978 UF has played 17 NON-d1a schools and USC has played zero. That's 17 more for UF (bad).
Since 1978 UF has played 198 ranked opponents and USC has played 156. That's 42 more for UF (good).
Since 1978 UF has played 105 top 10opponents and USC has played 78. That's 27 more for UF (good).

Which do you think impacts an SOS more, playing 27 more Top 10 teams and 42 more ranked teams or playing 17 non D1A teams? In your world the answer is playing the 17 non D1A teams.

 

[huskers1217]

Who cares? What about the quality of the opponents? Do you want to see why that argument is STUPID.

In 1978 the NCAA split D1 into D1A (majors) and D1AA (non majors).
Since 1978 UF has played 17 NON-d1a schools and USC has played zero. That's 17 more for UF (bad).
Since 1978 UF has played 198 ranked opponents and USC has played 156. That's 42 more for UF (good).
Since 1978 UF has played 105 top 10opponents and USC has played 78. That's 27 more for UF (good).

Which do you think impacts an SOS more, playing 27 more Top 10 teams and 42 more ranked teams or playing 17 non D1A teams? In your world the answer is playing the 17 non D1A teams.

@AlaskaGuy I would like to know how many of those 198 and/or 105 UF has won compared to the 156/78 for USC

 

[Gator]

@AlaskaGuy I would like to know how many of those 198 and/or 105 UF has won compared to the 156/78 for USC

Now, that IS a different question! I'm not saying that UF was as good as USC was over that span as I don't know the answer. BUT, it is indisputable that UF played MORE T10 and more T25 opponents over the span.

More stats, in the regular season from 1978-2016
Florida....(321-126-5)--0.716.........vs T10..(26-61-1)--0.301.......vs T25...(73-92-2)--0.443
USC.......(316-130-8)--0.705.........vs T10..(17-41-1)--0.297........vs T25...(54-76-1)--0.416

In all games
Florida....(338-141-5)--0.704.........vs..T10..(31-69-1)--0.312.......vs T25...(83-107-2)--0.438
USC.......(333-142-8)--0.698.........vs..T10..(27-46-1)--0.372........vs T25...(66-85-1)--0.438

 

[USCDoom]

Now, that IS a different question! I'm not saying that UF was as good as USC was over that span as I don't know the answer. BUT, it is indisputable that UF played MORE T10 and more T25 opponents over the span.

More stats, in the regular season from 1978-2016
Florida....(321-126-5)--0.716.........vs T10..(26-61-1)--0.301.......vs T25...(73-92-2)--0.443
USC.......(316-130-8)--0.705.........vs T10..(17-41-1)--0.297........vs T25...(54-76-1)--0.416

In all games
Florida....(338-141-5)--0.704.........vs..T10..(31-69-1)--0.312.......vs T25...(83-107-2)--0.438
USC.......(333-142-8)--0.698.........vs..T10..(27-46-1)--0.372........vs T25...(66-85-1)--0.438

5-4-1 Outside The State of Florida since 1946 in OOC Games....

You can rattle off Biased Stats all you want.

5-4-1 Outside the State of Florida since 1946 in OOC Games.....

Florida are Cowards who play No One.

BTW The SEC was one of the Worst Conferences from 1948-1991.

 

[Gator]

I'm sorry, I screwed up the data. I posted only the AP data this time. but originally I post the "higher of the AP or the Coaches" which I hate!

 

[Gator]

5-4-1 Outside The State of Florida since 1946 in OOC Games....

You can rattle off Biased Stats all you want.

5-4-1 Outside the State of Florida since 1946 in OOC Games.....

Florida are Cowards who play No One.

BTW The SEC was one of the Worst Conferences from 1948-1991.

OHHH, I see YOU pick 10 games out of 800+ games and that is NOT bias?

 

[Gator]

5-4-1 Outside The State of Florida since 1946 in OOC Games....

You can rattle off Biased Stats all you want.

5-4-1 Outside the State of Florida since 1946 in OOC Games.....

Florida are Cowards who play No One.

BTW The SEC was one of the Worst Conferences from 1948-1991.

GET a clue!!! I show all 800+ games. How is that biased #'s? You have NO CLUE!!!

 

[Gator]

.....BTW The SEC was one of the Worst Conferences from 1948-1991.

USCDoom, I think that should be USCDumb. Kindly provide any data to back up that stupid claim of yours.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Who cares? What about the quality of the opponents? Do you want to see why that argument is STUPID.

In 1978 the NCAA split D1 into D1A (majors) and D1AA (non majors).
Since 1978 UF has played 17 NON-d1a schools and USC has played zero. That's 17 more for UF (bad).
Since 1978 UF has played 198 ranked opponents and USC has played 156. That's 42 more for UF (good).
Since 1978 UF has played 105 top 10opponents and USC has played 78. That's 27 more for UF (good).

Which do you think impacts an SOS more, playing 27 more Top 10 teams and 42 more ranked teams or playing 17 non D1A teams? In your world the answer is playing the 17 non D1A teams.

Gotta love how the rankings work. An SEC team can lose two in a row and drop one or two spots in the polls. A west coast team loses a game and the bottom falls out.

 

[USCDoom]

OHHH, I see YOU pick 10 games out of 800+ games and that is NOT bias?

LMAO!!!!!!!!

Your Program PICKED Them...

 

[jon2tanman]

The quarter century of Florida State football since UF won an out-of-state non-conference game
Hard to lose when you don't even leave your home state.

 

[jon2tanman]

Ongoing tally: SEC’s record vs. non-conference teams
Ranking the SEC's non-conference schedules for 2016 -- from most difficult to least difficult
2016 Conference Games vs. FCS schools Schools w/ no FCS games
Big Ten 0.57 per team (8 total) 6
Pac-12 0.67 (8) 4
Big 12 0.80 (8) 2
ACC 1.00 (14) 1
SEC 1.00 (14) 0

 

[Olyduck]

Washington started scheduling those FCS teams 7 years ago when Sark saw how the SEC was working the system with the 8 game conference schedule along with a few sisters of the poor. Petersen has said he's gong to fix that and go back to how Washington used to schedule. Next season UW plays Auburn and BYU along with its normal 9 game conference schedule. But ya, UW's scheduling has pretty much sucked these past few years. No arguing that. Stanford, USC, UCLA and Cal on the other hand all have solid schedules year in and year out.

Oregon typically goes with the 1-1-1 style. 1 P5 1G5 1FCS. like this coming season
last year was 2P5 and an FCS happened in 13 also.
18 dropped the ball and they have 1 FCS and 2 G5 teams. happened in 12 also.
coming up otherwise they have Auburn , ohio state x2, TTx2
Even still this is better than what UW has been doing.

Stanford has ND every year but along with that they have 2 G5 teams in 17
16 and 15 were P5 G5 and ND
14 was FCS G5 and ND
13 2G5 and ND
12 P5 G5 ND
and their P5 teams are typically lower tier like WF Northwestern and Duke.
still better than UW but stop making them sound like they are always playing top teams.

 

[socaljim242]

Jon, you are sooooo wrong! You are living in the past, son. STOP including UW along with Stanford and USC in scheduling arguments. The schedules AREN'T even close.

Here are the POWERHOUSES that UW has played OOC over the past FIVE seasons:
San Diego St.
LSU (only P5 opponent with a winning record)
Portland St. FCS
Boise St.
Illinois
Idaho St. FCS
Hawaii
Eastern Washington FCS
Illinois
Georgia State
Boise St.
Sacramento St. FCS
Utah St.
Rutgers
Idaho
Portland St. FCS.

WOW, those are some sucky teams. AND, you want to RAG on the SEC about OOC scheduling!! Go away!!

Fuck yeah I rag on SEC scheduling. We don't have to cherry pick USC and Stanfords schedule. I'm oviously not a UCLA fan but here's their last five years of OCC
2017
Texas A&M
Hawaii
@Memphis yeah thats right @ Memphis
2016
@ A & M - yeah that's right @ A&M
UNLV
@BYU- yeah they actually traveled

2015
Viginia
@UNLV - actually traveled to an OCC game
BYU- (ranked #17 at the time)

2014
@Virginia -Yeah traveled across the country
Memphis
Texas*

2013
Nevada
@Nebraska- Ok look they traveled to the other teams house
New mexico State

In 5 years UCLA traveled to more OCC games to their opponents house then Alabama has in 11 years. and PAC teams dont play Mercer , Chattanooga , Charleston southern,West Carolina, UAB, eastern Kentucky, Towsend, North Texas at the end of November and always at home.

 

[Gator]

LMAO!!!!!!!!

Your Program PICKED Them...

YES, USCDumb, UF picked ALL 800 opponents so use ALL 800!!!! How hard is that to understand!!! This isn't rocket science!!!

 

[Gator]

Ongoing tally: SEC’s record vs. non-conference teams
Ranking the SEC's non-conference schedules for 2016 -- from most difficult to least difficult
2016 Conference Games vs. FCS schools Schools w/ no FCS games
Big Ten 0.57 per team (8 total) 6
Pac-12 0.67 (8) 4
Big 12 0.80 (8) 2
ACC 1.00 (14) 1
SEC 1.00 (14) 0

You didn't follow 2016 very closely, did you, Jon?
Florida's game with Presbyterian was cancelled. So you missed the ONE team you are aiming at, sharpshooter.

BTW, the data also proves why dissing FCS teams is foolish.
SEC 13-0-0
ACC 13-1-0
PAC-12 7-1-0
Big 12 7-1-0
Big Ten 6-2-0

That's 5 losses to FCS teams---Clearly, they aren't the pushovers you think they are.

The Missouri Valley Conference (FCS) was 3-4 vs P5 teams last year. They beat :Iowa, Iowa State, and Northwestern. That's a higher W/L percentage than ANY D1A non-major conference!!!
AAC (9-14-0)
MAC (4-12-0)
MWC (3-15-0)
CUSA (2-20-0)
Sun Belt (1-15-0)