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Patriot's secondary > Seahawk's secondary?

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After holding the highest-scoring offense in NFL history to only eight points in Super Bowl XLVIII, there is little doubt the Seattle Seahawks' Legion of Boom ended last season as the best secondary in the NFL. With Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas signed to long-term contract extensions, it would seem that this group is poised to keep that title for a long time.

However, that title reign may come to a close much sooner than expected, due to a strong challenge from the New England Patriots. When the offseason acquisitions of Darrelle Revis and Brandon Browner are added to the other personnel changes made in Seattle and New England, a strong case can be made that the Patriots will have the best secondary in the NFL in 2014 -- not the Seahawks. Let's look at the key reasons why.

State of the secondaries, as of the end of the 2013 season

A good place to start this comparison is by noting where these secondaries were at the conclusion of last season.

Seattle led the league in yards per attempt, and its 6.0-yard mark gave it a 1-yard lead over New England (7.0 YPA, tied for 11th).

The Seahawks' overall lead did not show up in the areas of vertical YPA (defined as YPA allowed on passes thrown 11 or more yards downfield) or stretch vertical YPA (passes thrown 20 or more yards). Seattle's 10.2 VYPA (tied for ninth) was nearly identical to New England's 10.3 VYPA (tied for 12th), and the Patriots' 10.3 SVYPA (fourth) bested the Seahawks' 11.8 SVYPA (12th).

Seattle did notch a significant lead in the percentage of passes that ended up as interceptions or near-interceptions (a near-interception being defined as a pass that hits a defender's catching frame but doesn't result in a pick). Its 9.2 percent total led the league and was just over 2 percentage points higher than New England's 6.9-percent mark (eighth).

Having noted this, New England's secondary accounted for 38 interceptions/near-interceptions, a mark that was equal to the total Seattle's secondary posted last year, so the split between these groups was not as large as the percentages would indicate.

Bottom line: The Seahawks had the league's best secondary during the 2013 season, but the Patriots weren't all that far behind.

Impact of personnel changes

The retooling of the Patriots' secondary looks like it will shore up this group's major weaknesses.

A detailed analysis of their relative metrics indicates that replacing Aqib Talib (who signed with the Denver Broncos) with Revis will save the Patriots somewhere in the range of 200 yards this season. Revis is not known as being quite as accomplished a ball hawk as Talib, but that study illustrated how Revis is likely to generate just as many pick chances, and possibly more interceptions, than Talib posted last season.

As significant as that upgrade would be, it likely pales in comparison to the impact Browner will have. Browner had a lower YPA than Sherman in 2012 (6.2 for Browner, 7.4 for Sherman) and should provide a huge coverage improvement over Alfonzo Dennard (9.3 YPA) and Kyle Arrington (9.2 YPA). Browner has nearly as many career interceptions (10) as Dennard and Arrington combined (13) and thus could improve the turnover total as well. Any impact will be delayed until at least Week 5, as Browner will start the season by serving a four-game suspension, but that may not be an issue given that New England begins the season with games against Miami, Minnesota, Oakland and Kansas City -- teams that all have issues in the passing game.

With strong safety Kam Chancellor already signed to a long-term deal, the core of the Seattle secondary will not change, but there are two places where personnel transitions could affect this group.

The first is at right cornerback. Byron Maxwell looks to have the inside track for this role, and his 5.5 YPA last season indicates he should be up to the task. The big issue is Maxwell will be hard pressed to improve on this total. If his production falls back closer to his 2012 coverage level (8.7 YPA), this could be an area that negatively affects Seattle's overall metrics.

The second is at slot cornerback. Jeremy Lane will be a front-runner for this role, but his 131 yards allowed on 15 targets last year netted out to an unacceptable 8.7 YPA. If he doesn't improve on this figure, Tharold Simon could take over. Simon has performed well this offseason, making ESPN Insider Mike Sando's list of 10 players generating buzz at organized team activities, and had a history of quality coverage and ball hawk metrics at LSU, but it is far from a given that a first-year starter will be a lockdown coverage player, no matter how talented he is.

Bottom line

The Seahawks have a collection of secondary stars with a legacy of success, but they also have to battle complacency, the Madden curse and the Plexiglas principle and do so with a number of unproven players.

Those factors are likely to open a door for a competitor to pass them, and New England, with its additions of a likely future Hall of Famer and one of Seattle's best cornerbacks, is the team likeliest to vault its way to the top. Don't be surprised if by season's end we are calling the Patriots' secondary the best in the NFL.

By K.C. Joyner

ESPN Insider: NFL - New England Patriots' secondary will surpass the Seattle Seahawks' in 2014 - ESPN
 

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The Patriots have absolutely ZERO excuses (something they love) this season.

Super Bowl or bust!
 

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ESPN going out of their way to Troll seattle now! lol they know the fanbase will defend and provide clicks.

I just like to point out something ive found funny.

Seattle players get no love or respect when in seattle but they leave and now their all world.

Browner on seattle, he's just a product of the system, with two great safeties making him look good. He loses his job to Maxwell, and leaves for NE and now he's a reason why NE has a better secondary.

Same goes with other players, Golden Tate, on the hawks, just mediocre, pedestrian really. HE leaves and now a HUGe reason the team can't repeat and without him the offense will die.

Red bryant and Clemons. Their just rotational guys, nothing special on the hawks, they leave and now a huge hole on the line that will sink the hawks ship.

Giacomini- part of the worst line in the nfl while on the hawks, now he left for the jets, a HUGe hole that can't possibly be replaced.

crazy stuff man,
 

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ESPN going out of their way to Troll seattle now! lol they know the fanbase will defend and provide clicks.

I just like to point out something ive found funny.

Seattle players get no love or respect when in seattle but they leave and now their all world.

Browner on seattle, he's just a product of the system, with two great safeties making him look good. He loses his job to Maxwell, and leaves for NE and now he's a reason why NE has a better secondary.

Same goes with other players, Golden Tate, on the hawks, just mediocre, pedestrian really. HE leaves and now a HUGe reason the team can't repeat and without him the offense will die.

Red bryant and Clemons. Their just rotational guys, nothing special on the hawks, they leave and now a huge hole on the line that will sink the hawks ship.

Giacomini- part of the worst line in the nfl while on the hawks, now he left for the jets, a HUGe hole that can't possibly be replaced.

crazy stuff man,

it's like we went 0-16.

That is why i stopped listening to the media. They give us no respect.

Take a look at the Week before the SB. who was all the talk about? I remember all being about Manning and the broncos and how we (seahawks) can't handle him. 42-7 nuff said

All stops till the schedule comes out.

"Ohh. the hawks got a tough road ahead. I don't think they can do it"

"Ohh. Wilson is not a top 10 QB"

"Ohh. They lost these Rotionial players and now there gonna be crap"

No respect for who just won the SB
 

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Is that what you Seahawks' fans got out of this article? No respect?

How dare they say the Seahawks proved they were the #1 secondary last season by shutting down the "best" offense in NFL history. How dare they use stats to say the Patriots secondary was "almost" as impressive. How dare they say that the Patriots' secondary might be better than Seahawks' secondary.
 

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No. Even the biggest NE homer in Skip Bayless didn't believe this crock of garbage
 

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I heard the writer of this on the radio today. He said that he would take that Hawks defense against another smash mouth offense like SF in favor over NE.

But would rather have the Pats secondary against a high flying offense like Denver.

:L
 

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I heard the writer of this on the radio today. He said that he would take that Hawks defense against another smash mouth offense like SF in favor over NE.

But would rather have the Pats secondary against a high flying offense like Denver.

:L

It looks like we will have an opportunity to see. Doesn't Denver play both Seattle and New England?
 

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It looks like we will have an opportunity to see. Doesn't Denver play both Seattle and New England?

I think week 3 @ Seattle and week 9 @ New England. Would have loved to have had one of those two teams at home but hey the schedule is what it is.
 

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I will take Seattle over the NE back four.

To add, the games in week 3 and 9 mean less to this debate than what happens over course of season. IMO the only one game sample that counts is SB.
 

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it's like we went 0-16.

That is why i stopped listening to the media. They give us no respect.

Take a look at the Week before the SB. who was all the talk about? I remember all being about Manning and the broncos and how we (seahawks) can't handle him. 42-7 nuff said

All stops till the schedule comes out.

"Ohh. the hawks got a tough road ahead. I don't think they can do it"

"Ohh. Wilson is not a top 10 QB"

"Ohh. They lost these Rotionial players and now there gonna be crap"

No respect for who just won the SB

:Cry::bawling::bawling::L
 

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Coming from a cowboy fan and a UK hoops fan. You have no clue what its like to not have your team covered 24-7. Your teams get shoved down everyones throats whether their good. UK with coach Cal, Or their Bad/mediocre the Cowboys since Aikman.
 

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Coming from a cowboy fan and a UK hoops fan. You have no clue what its like to not have your team covered 24-7. Your teams get shoved down everyones throats whether their good. UK with coach Cal, Or their Bad/mediocre the Cowboys since Aikman.

:bawling:
 

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Coming from a cowboy fan and a UK hoops fan. You have no clue what its like to not have your team covered 24-7. Your teams get shoved down everyones throats whether their good. UK with coach Cal, Or their Bad/mediocre the Cowboys since Aikman.

That's because those two teams have more Championships than you have fingers. It could also explain why so many Hawks fans have an apparent case of little man syndrome. What's comical is how badly you guys twist everything. ''Russell Wilson is the 10th best QB in the League''. For a 3rd rounder in his 3rd year to be called the 10th best QB in the world would be a compliment to most people, including Wison. To Seahawks fan, it's...''OMG, they had Wilson behind Cutler and Romo, those freaking hacks, no one respects us, they said Russell is the worst QB in the league and we're going 0-16!!!''
 

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Coming from a cowboy fan and a UK hoops fan. You have no clue what its like to not have your team covered 24-7. Your teams get shoved down everyones throats whether their good. UK with coach Cal, Or their Bad/mediocre the Cowboys since Aikman.

Seahawks' secondary getting WAY more coverage than 2011 49ers defense.
 

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The 2011 Niners D was better IMO. The Niners didn't repeat. Seattle fan might think about that

:agree:

49ers defense is still elite and one of the best, but they have digressed every year since 2011.
 

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I have to admit that some 'Hawk fans are a bit over the top about the 'respect' thing. Maybe if some players didn't act like douche-bags all of the time (not RW ,he is a class act in my book) then they might find the respect they are eager to get. Respect is earned ,not given.
 

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The 2011 Niners D was better IMO. The Niners didn't repeat. Seattle fan might think about that
The 9ers won nothing so no 'repeat' would happen but I do get what you posted. That was a great D we had that year.
 
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