politics thread

[ehb5]

Why argue with a democratic talking points memo ?

For the millionth time Im not a democrat but more importantly...

are you saying that if I were a democrat that I wouldnt be worth debating with? Because...thats pretty sad if thats what youre saying.

 

[reptec101]

My point is the

So you prefer getting butt f***ed by other countries. No, which is why I oppose his dumbass trade wars. His trade wars are hurting americans. So much for america first.
Where was your outcry under Obama? Oh you liked Obama?
just the illegals. Next question False. His administration has taken steps to limit legal immigration.
Better vetting systems is all ive ever heard. Wouldn't you want that? I have no problem with that. Using that as an excuse to ban all muslims whether temporary or permanent is pathetic on his part.
who gives a F***! a lot of people. the fact that our president is THAT delusional is concerning. I for one would prefer to have a president who wasnt delusional.
Who gives a F***! Took Obama 8 years to release his BC Again, a LOT of people. Its standard practice yet trump ran and hid from it then made false promises about it. Shouldnt he be open with the american people? Should he keep his word to the american people? Oh and the difference between a BC and tax returns is obvious unless you are being a partisan.
Really, we're going here? Billionaire being sued... hmmm. Considering his history of sexual impropriety, bragging of sexual assault and constant objectification of women, yes we're going there.
Umm yea,, that's what he did Yes it is, glad we finally agree.
I'm guessing you yourself has called someone a bitch.. or a ho (same) Lol no I have not said anything remotely similar to what trump says about women.
never heard him call anyone a N Woah woah woah, WHAT?? Are you arguing that because theres no proof he said the N word he isnt racist??? WHAT?? Dude there are a LOT of ways to be racist without saying the N word. Please tell me you realize that...
in the medias eyes No, he just does it.
are we referring to Obama here? Showing your Obama love again I see.
See above^ Obama lover
yea that stung... too funny Huh?
not at war.. next question. Is that supposed to be impressive? You must have been impressed by Obama doing that too I imagine.
in the medias biased eyes Uhhhh no, that is quite literally what he did.
swamp cleaning from my point of view. Yes, Im sure youd support Hillary and Obama repeatedly attacking the IC
You are kidding right? No
do you only watch MCNBC? I can honestly say Ive watched less than 30 minutes of msnbc in my entire life. More importantly though, that has nothing to do with the fact trump is constantly attacking a very serious and legitimate ongoing investigation.
and that makes him a bad prez how? well if youve been following the news he ordered his attorney to commit campaign finance violations to ssilence this issue in order to influence the election. You dont have a problem with that?
open the flood gates right,,, please don't run for office Not at all what I said but nice strawman.
Silly Hahaha are you a troll?? Youre counterpoint is, "silly"???
OMG.. who's crying collusion.. too damn funny!! Wait so youre ok with a candidate not accepting the results of the election? Last I checked investigating collusion doesnt mean that the election results arent accepted.
has balls as I see it So youd be ok with it if he called out your company or small business in an attempt to hurt or control you?
ya lost me google trump university
and the other side is fair and balanced. Gotcha So youre argument is that its ok that hes corrupt because other people are too? So you are ok with corruption?
have you seen the Clinton foundation. Mind blowing. See above...if you hate it for hillary why dont you hate it for trump?
we have a immigration problem created by those before him. give him a break That has literally nothing to do with the birther conspiracy. we have a conspiracy theorist president.
and other politicians don't. Interesting. Not to the level trump does by a loooong shot.
NFL needs to play football Nfl needs to worry about the nfl. Trump needs to worry about running this country - trying to police the nfl isnt doing that.
and Obama only pardoned great people Damn youre defending Obama AGAIN?
Hillary should be in jail.,, and you know it too. WHAT?? That makes it ok to insinuate somebody should shoot her????
No comment Lol wonder why
let me ask you.. why would you want too? Being an American. I wouldnt. But we have the right to do it. Or do you not believe in the 1st amendment?
he's attacked non-stop.. and for BS mostly Hes attacked nonstop because hes an asshole who lies incessantly and cant stop saying and doing idiotic things. Sure SOME criticisms are unfair but most of it is justified and is HIS own fault.
do you believe everything MSNBC tells you. Well it came from Trumps mouth soooo

Listen, ive never witnessed a presidents term being harassed as he has with nothing ever coming forth to warrant it. Imagine the good he can do for all Americans (legal) if he's just left alone with the constant barrage of BS. Tired of his stupid tweets... stop provoking em.

So basically, you didnt actually refute any of the points you made. Your responses consisted of, "That doesnt count because its silly!", "That doesnt count because you just heard it on the liberal media!", "That doesnt count because I hadnt heard of that before now!, "That doesnt count because Obama and the Dems did it too!", and "That doesnt count because I said so!"

All together an incredible argument on your part, but the big takeaway here is actually that you, @reptec101 are a huge Obama defender and fan. Learn somethin new every day.

My point is the insane hypocrisy. Not gonna bicker with ya,,, you see the world your way and ill see it mine. Peace.

 

[skinsdad62]

For the millionth time Im not a democrat but more importantly...

are you saying that if I were a democrat that I wouldnt be worth debating with? Because...thats pretty sad if thats what youre saying.

no i am saying those are democratic talking points that are crap and also show you havent been following a lot of this

 

[ehb5]

My point is the

My point is the insane hypocrisy. Not gonna bicker with ya,,, you see the world your way and ill see it mine. Peace.

The hypocrisy of defending trump for things you hate about obama and dems?

So you put out a challenge, had it answered, couldnt refute it and are now bailing. Why is that not surprising?

 

[ehb5]

no i am saying those are democratic talking points that are crap and also show you havent been following a lot of this

Well please correct me on what I have wrong.

 

[skinsdad62]

Well please correct me on what I have wrong.

trade war to start , i bet you dont know why it is happening and how its helped us

 

[ehb5]

trade war to start , i bet you dont know why it is happening and how its helped us

According to trump himself trade wars are good and easy to win.

And they have hurt us so far (and will continue to do so because thats how trade wars work).

 

[reptec101]

The hypocrisy of defending trump for things you hate about obama and dems?

So you put out a challenge, had it answered, couldnt refute it and are now bailing. Why is that not surprising?

WTF are you even talking about. I painstakingly answered everyone of your idiotic remarks about Trump when you can't even see that those same idiotic remarks you made save a few could be applied to just about every president we've had the pleasure of supporting and wishing well simply for Americas sake... other than Trump that is.. you dudes (those that hate,, don't turn it racial) wish and hope he fails at everything even though you live in America. (still scratching my head on that)... I just don't wanna waste my time with you anymore. It's like trying to get an atheist to believe. Pointless.

 

[skinsdad62]

According to trump himself trade wars are good and easy to win.

And they have hurt us so far (and will continue to do so because thats how trade wars work).

well again you are misinformed , the EU renegotiated its deal , mexico is just about to as is canada

 

[ehb5]

WTF are you even talking about. I painstakingly answered everyone of your idiotic remarks about Trump when you can't even see that those same idiotic remarks you made save a few could be applied to just about every president we've had the pleasure of supporting and wishing well simply for Americas sake... other than Trump that is.. you dudes (those that hate,, don't turn it racial) wish and hope he fails at everything even though you live in America. (still scratching my head on that)... I just don't wanna waste my time with you anymore. It's like trying to get an atheist to believe. Pointless.

Because your "painstaking" rebuttals were nonsense. Im not sure there was a single genuine counterpoint in them. And i dont mean i didnt agree with them. I mean they literally werent valid arguments regardless of your beliefs.

And i sure as hell am not hoping he fails. That would be weird.

Anyways if you want to have an open reasonable discussion, i'm here.

 

[ehb5]

well again you are misinformed , the EU renegotiated its deal , mexico is just about to as is canada

So far he has hurt american companies and workers had to perform a socialist big government bailout to make up for his mistakes and not made a single trade deal that improves on where we started.

So to summarize...things have exclusively gotten worse. Now maybe that changes...but its unlikely and to date is objectively false to say otherwise. You may need to inform yourself on this.

 

[skinsdad62]

So far he has hurt american companies and workers had to perform a socialist big government bailout to make up for his mistakes and not made a single trade deal that improves on where we started.

So to summarize...things have exclusively gotten worse. Now maybe that changes...but its unlikely and to date is objectively false to say otherwise. You may need to inform yourself on this.

none of those things have happened try again

 

[ehb5]

none of those things have happened try again

Lol what?? Are we living in different worlds here?? Can you please show me what your basing this off? Because i posted extensive links the other day showing the harm the tariffs have had already and that trump had to waste money on a bailout as a direct result. I have legitimately no idea how you are coming to the conclusions you are about this.

 

[skinsdad62]

Lol what?? Are we living in different worlds here?? Can you please show me what your basing this off? Because i posted extensive links the other day showing the harm the tariffs have had already and that trump had to waste money on a bailout as a direct result. I have legitimately no idea how you are coming to the conclusions you are about this.

i have already shown that the EU renegotiated and canada and mexico are almost done . those 2 things in of in itself are beneficial to american workers . we have pulled out of bad trade deals which is also beneficial to american workers

sticking with unfair trade deals doesnt help american workers and tariffs and threat of tarriffs have brought these countries to the negotiating table

you should know this if you were up to date

 

[Rowdy]

According to trump himself trade wars are good and easy to win.

And they have hurt us so far (and will continue to do so because thats how trade wars work).

Not when you win and we're going to win BIG

 

[Stymietee]

He might be an autocrat but as far as committing treason I think that you have so much hatred for the man that beat your candidate for president at their own game that you still can't see straight. Please don't tell me that you don't. So much corruption on both sides yet you focus "only" on the side that you have no allegiance too. I don't give a shit about how he won. Both parties have the trust of a criminal on crack. I don't give a shit about him screwing other women. I don't give a shit about his stupid tweets. I give a shit about one thing. My money. My 401k has never been so high and your party spends every second of every single day trying to Fuck it all up for me. It's insane the idiocy and the hypocrisy of the democratic party. I mean that sincerely.

What the he'll are you stammering about?

Ok, I don't, now what?

BTW: I'LL bet you that I've benefited 100 times more from the tax cut than you or anyone you personally know have. That's not the point


I'm also not a democrat, registered independent since 1976. Clearly you have no idea how dangerous it is to have an autocrat in the highest office in the land. So let me ask, what good will your 401 be if the country that allowed such a thing doesn't exist any longer?

For me personally, there's no difference between someone who calls themselves Republican, Democrat, or something else and hates me based upon a made up construct that justifies seeing me as anything other than equally human in every aspect.

So, once you are able to take a step away from your greedy, self centered self. Take the blinders off and think about your country.

 

[Sharkinva]

So, once you are able to take a step away from your greedy, self centered self. Take the blinders off and think about your country.

Always remember, to some its not OUR country, we outlived our usefulness and we are allowed to stay because of the generosity of the conquerors.

 

[Stymietee]

Always remember, to some its not OUR country, we outlived our usefulness and we are allowed to stay because of the generosity of the conquerors.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that!! BTW: how've you been man? Hope all is well with you and the Fam in the sunshine state!

 

[Sharkinva]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that!! BTW: how've you been man? Hope all is well with you and the Fam in the sunshine state!

Thats a loaded question... Im a grandfather. So thats one good thing.

 

[Stymietee]

Mark Levin Provides Legal Experts A Lesson In Law On Cohen’s Admissions

For those who don’t know the law

Clearly this guy doesn't know the difference between a report and a charge. The report is that Mr. Cohen implicated Mr. Trump. Reports like this happen all of the time on the daily/nightly news. "Today a priest was implicated for fondling the alter boy at Pee Wee Herman's house." That's the report. "Today a priest was charged with fondling the alter boy at Pee Wee Herman's house. This is a charge.

Cohen's admission is the report, If or when Mr. Trump is charged with something related to this admission, that will be what has to be proven (the charge). Right now, it's all in the court of negative public opinion, something that Trump relishes in unless/until he's the subject.