POLL MBBRL D2 Taxi Squad vote

[TREFF]

I get what you're saying.
You bring up a valid point.
But if a team has zero money, then most everyone else in the league should be able to out bid him by $1.

Honestly I've had limited experience with a FAAB. But I did a decent job with my budget.

IDK. I see where all of you are coming from. But part of me still says this is just a game. If it were real football, we'd just be keeping track of TD and field goals.
Maybe I'm too soft?
Or maybe I've been in enough leagues where owners lose interest for the dumbest things. (Not that these discussions are dumb, mind you.)

Should be able to yes, should have to? Not in my opinion. Naw your not soft, and I'd never think you would think any of these things are dumb, and even if you did, I'd just leave negative feedback on the assembly

 

[obxyankeefan]

I can't wait till we get to the waivers discussion.


Personally I don't even know what FAAB is. I imagine it is some kind of auction waivers

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I can't wait till we get to the waivers discussion.


Personally I don't even know what FAAB is. I imagine it is some kind of auction waivers

Yeah I didn't know what FAAB was either.

 

[averagejoe]

Personally I don't even know what FAAB is.

Yeah I didn't know what FAAB was either.

Free Agent Auction Budget

 

[tlance]

This is a great read.


But don't pro teams make trades that include cash?
I could be wrong, but when pro teams pick up players on waivers, they usually are moving someone with a bigger salary off their roster saving money.

I hope I'm following your line of thought?
While I agree in principle. Things happen. Injuries. Suspensions.
Being low on the waiver order is the death knell.

This is exactly why I am so adamantly against re-setting waivers. These things happen to old teams too. that is why bad teams should not have exclusive access to the best players.

 

[tlance]

Ah, yes they do Joe. But if they're up against the cap and can't afford a player, in other words they have no free agency budget left, they can't take the player unless they cut someone to generate more space. Since in fantasy land cutting a player doesn't generate FAAB dollars (99.9% of the time), that means no dollars, no player. You want to create an FAAB system that allows you to make moves that generate extra dollars for free agency, more power to ya, but otherwise, the point remains, if claiming players involves a currency, and you have none left, you are stuck with the team you have, should've budgeted better I guess. Other than the obvious skew towards FAAB experienced players, that's the one thing that irked me the most in my limited exposure to FAAB, a team blowing everyone out of the water for a few select free agents, yet still performing moves with zero dollars. If you wanna blow your wad, fine by me, but then that's it, your done.

If you run out of money it does not mean you can't add anybody. It just means you are limited to what is left over after everyone else bids. You are making it far more complicated than it is.

 

[obxyankeefan]

This is exactly why I am so adamantly against re-setting waivers. These things happen to old teams too. that is why bad teams should not have exclusive access to the best players.

I like a revolving waiver myself. But the problem I see is do we reset it each year, or just continue as is?



We will be doing a WW discussion thread later on, so the people that have missed this can be involved.

 

[tlance]

I spent every dollar of my FAAB budget in my $ league by week 8 last year and still won.

 

[tlance]

I like a revolving waiver myself. But the problem I see is do we reset it each year, or just continue as is?



We will be doing a WW discussion thread later on, so the people that have missed this can be involved.

Revolving waiver is fair.

 

[TREFF]

I spent every dollar of my FAAB budget in my $ league by week 8 last year and still won.

But you always win. ..lol

 

[TREFF]

If you run out of money it does not mean you can't add anybody. It just means you are limited to what is left over after everyone else bids. You are making it far more complicated than it is.

But see, that's the thing, I think it should mean that. And it's very simple, 0 dollars, 0 moves. .4 words, or 2 words and a couple numbers, simple

 

[tlance]

But see, that's the thing, I think it should mean that. And it's very simple, 0 dollars, 0 moves. .4 words, or 2 words and a couple numbers, simple

Ok, but we are talking about 2 very different systems. In yours players would never be free agents. Honestly, I am not even sure it would work for football. At least, I have never seen that done. Your suggestion would be extremely complicated and require a great deal of knowledge and strategy.

Standard FAAB is not that way at all. It is nothing more than a way to give owners equal resources to acquire players from the waiver wire. Once they clear, they are free agents just like every MBBRL league we have. I really don't get why you would want to do away with free agency if it were a FAAB system when you are against FAAB from the start.

FAAB is similar to rolling waivers, just with another layer of strategy added in. It really is not hard to figure out and most love it once they have given it a chance.

 

[TREFF]

Ok, but we are talking about 2 very different systems. In yours players would never be free agents. Honestly, I am not even sure it would work for football. At least, I have never seen that done. Your suggestion would be extremely complicated and require a great deal of knowledge and strategy.

Standard FAAB is not that way at all. It is nothing more than a way to give owners equal resources to acquire players from the waiver wire. Once they clear, they are free agents just like every MBBRL league we have. I really don't get why you would want to do away with free agency if it were a FAAB system when you are against FAAB from the start.

FAAB is similar to rolling waivers, just with another layer of strategy added in. It really is not hard to figure out and most love it once they have given it a chance.

It would require strategy, but no more do than deciding whether or not you can order pizza, or need to stick to Ramen noodles becuase you can't afford it, nor would it require massive rule changes. Can't for the life of me see how "If you have money you can buy something, if you don't, you can't" is more complex than if you don't have money, you can still buy stuff, you just can't actually pay anything for it, but you can still have it. . .maybe that's why we have so much credit card debt in this country? Do people really think that's how a budget works these days? Seems very very simple to me, but hordes of people think you can buy stuff without money.

 

[TREFF]

It would require strategy, but no more do than deciding whether or not you can order pizza, or need to stick to Ramen noodles becuase you can't afford it, nor would it require massive rule changes. Can't for the life of me see how "If you have money you can buy something, if you don't, you can't" is more complex than if you don't have money, you can still buy stuff, you just can't actually pay anything for it, but you can still have it. . .maybe that's why we have so much credit card debt in this country? Do people really think that's how a budget works these days? Seems very very simple to me, but hordes of people think you can buy stuff without money.

Which also reminds me. .the socialism thing you referred to with the bottom teams always getting first priority. ..nothing is more socialist than allowing someone without money to continue buying things for free, when the people with money are expected to pay for them. .unamerican, right?

 

[tlance]

Which also reminds me. .the socialism thing you referred to with the bottom teams always getting first priority. ..nothing is more socialist than allowing someone without money to continue buying things for free, when the people with money are expected to pay for them. .unamerican, right?

No!

You don't buy FREE agents. You buy players on waivers. 2 completely different things. You do need money to get the most coveted players for sure. You do not need money to get a player that nobody else wants. Nothing socialist about that, because like anything in life, you get what you pay for.

 

[tlance]

It would require strategy, but no more do than deciding whether or not you can order pizza, or need to stick to Ramen noodles becuase you can't afford it, nor would it require massive rule changes. Can't for the life of me see how "If you have money you can buy something, if you don't, you can't" is more complex than if you don't have money, you can still buy stuff, you just can't actually pay anything for it, but you can still have it. . .maybe that's why we have so much credit card debt in this country? Do people really think that's how a budget works these days? Seems very very simple to me, but hordes of people think you can buy stuff without money.

Have you ever played in a league with FAAB?

 

[TREFF]

Have you ever played in a league with FAAB?

Yep twice, hated it both times, kicked myself pretty hard the second time for being so stupid as to sign up for it again. It was like getting kicked in the Jimmy, and then asking for seconds.

 

[TREFF]

No!

You don't buy FREE agents. You buy players on waivers. 2 completely different things. You do need money to get the most coveted players for sure. You do not need money to get a player that nobody else wants. Nothing socialist about that, because like anything in life, you get what you pay for.

Right, and if you pay nothing, you get nothing. .see?

 

[Barilko]

But you always win. ..lol

Too fast Treff I was going to say that

 

[tlance]

Right, and if you pay nothing, you get nothing. .see?

OK, but that would be exactly the same as saying that you could not pick up a free agent in MBBRL without giving up your waiver priority.

FAAB is a method for dealing with waivers, not purchasing free agents.