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Mariners 2023 - 2024 offseason thread

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I suppose you could add.
Tampa to the health..

Teams..

Baltimore.
Seattle.
Tampa..
 

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That is what .the world series cost Texas .
Cuz they were not ready.
Otherwise .
 

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Houston known as cheaters.
Are know cheating..themselves..

As the baseball.turns.
 

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Mariners 1st spring game.
At white Sox .
sat..2/24 .1205.pm
 

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For me..Gregory..santos.
Puts the mariners..
Over the.top..
With .

Vargas ..
Kowar...
Bolton..
Adcock.

being ready .some.time..this year..
Really
Gives the mariners.the.best.
Best bull pen..by .the playoffs....
As well.as now..

And that is were .Astros.
And rangers will have
Hard time keeping up.
 

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For me it's the speed.of.
Sam haggerty..
That makes me want to.
Trade Moore..
Or send him to Tacoma
 

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My mariners.line up.

1.crawford..ss.L/L
2.julio......,...cf.
3.polanco.....2b..swit
4.garver.........dh.
5.raliegh........cat./swit
6.haniger. .......RF.
7.canzone.........LF.L/L
8.france...........1b.
9.rojas...............3b.L/L.

Bench .
Zavala .
Urias. 2b/3b..
Haggerty ..of./ss/2b..rabbit.swit
Raley .........1b/of L/L
 

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My backups at Tacoma.
Marlowe..of
Chavis...infield.
 

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My mariners.rotation..

1castillo..
2 kerby..
3 Gilbert .
4 miller..
5.woo..

6.hancock.
7 .voth .
8.thornton.
9.dollard...out t.j.
 

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My mariners bull.pen.

Thornton.
Voth...

Bazardo..
Soucedo..LHP

Speier LHP.
Santos .

Brash..
Monuz..
................
Adcock..
Vargas .
Bolton.
Kowar .
Llovera
McCoughan.
..........................
Kuhn.AA.
 

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Best guys who will.be at Arkansas .pitchers..

Most bull pen guys

Troy Taylor..drafted 2 times.
By mariners..

Jimmy Joyce..will.start.but.
Could be a.bull pen guy..
Van scoter as well.

Leon hunter.
Jerrod bayless
Kyle hill.
Payton Alford.
Louis curvelo.
 

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Bull pen guys moving up
Is were you can see..
20 guys fitting at azl .
Cuz..6 to 8 guys have to move up at every lvl..
Then..
Ya have to draft.more bull pen guys
 

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Seattle sports 710..
Did Seattle just get mlbs
Next breakout reliever.
In Gregory..Santos .

You would hope so.
And give the mariners.
Starters..to.be 6.innings.
Guys..

With..
Santos .7th.
Brash..8th..
Monuz 9th..

And then..
Extras.
Vargas .
And
Kowar.

Comming along at some point..
 

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Well I hope we are wrong. My thoughts were exactly like yours but every baseball guy on twitter was going nuts about this guy and saying we gave up nothing for him.I mean was the Corbin Burnes return much better than this? I am sure it was better, but how much better? Time will tell I guess.
This is kind of my pessimism. Both the Polanco and Santos trade seem good for the Mariners but in both trades the other side seems to think they fleeced the Mariners. I don’t give two cents on barrel rate, swings and misses, hard contact or any of that stuff cause nothing about his real tangible stats say he is an elite pitcher like everyone is talking about. I don’t care if Polanco, Garver and Hanigers grades are amazing when they are available. I wish all the WAR and what +stats subtracted for injuries. Do the math equation of what is a normal season BA’s and every AB they miss gets subtracted from it.

So my dislike of the analytics and all the fans quoting them (along with your pessimism) it starting to make me to be skeptical of the Polanco and Santos deal.
 

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I am a Mariners pessimist and for good reason...well 47 good reasons in fact. My yearly gripe is that fans continue to accept minor moves as the next big thing and it just kills me. Mariners are smart. They deplete the team, cause chaos and then make minor moves making fans think they are giving them the world. I compare it every year to the oil industry. They hike up gas prices by a dollar a gallon and make people go nuts then they lower it by 50 cents and people think they are getting a bargain. No, they literally increased it by 50 cents. No bargain. No gift. Not on our side.

This is the Mariners way and it continues to work for them. Not on the field, but on the books were it means more to them.

But I am still intrigued to see how this all plays out during the season. We should start a pool to guess how many games this projected starting lineup plays together. It is a brittle group to say the least.

There’s an old country saying that applies to the Seattle Mariners way of running a team

‘Going to the well with a hole in their bucket’
 

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There’s an old country saying that applies to the Seattle Mariners way of running a team

‘Going to the well with a hole in their bucket’
LMAO! I don't know country but that is awesome and accurate.
 

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So my dislike of the analytics and all the fans quoting them (along with your pessimism) it starting to make me to be skeptical of the Polanco and Santos deal.
Please don't let my pessimism sway you. I don't wish that upon anyone.

For the record, I think they will be fine but not spectacular like some want us to believe. If they are, great. It will make the season enjoyable. All we need to do now is add Rendon for 3B. He can miss as many games as anyone we got. A perfect fit.
 

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Please don't let my pessimism sway you. I don't wish that upon anyone.

For the record, I think they will be fine but not spectacular like some want us to believe. If they are, great. It will make the season enjoyable. All we need to do now is add Rendon for 3B. He can miss as many games as anyone we got. A perfect fit.
Im ok with pessimism..
The mariners ..have given.
A lot of reason for it .
And over the years .

But if they are ever going to.
Be good this seems like a good team .and a good time..for that...

They have extra guys. Just in case .
So that helps .

The owners have to be happy as they stand to make more
Money. And within..budget

I know we don't really care about that .

But Jedi has to and he has done a good job .
This offseason..
We really..could not ask.
For a better .job under the.
Circumstances..
 
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