Let the cuts begin....

[Wings]

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several more to go!!!

 

[mall3013]

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I was thinking of posting a thread similar to this. Few more to go.

 

[eaglesnut]

Why did we just make the best special teams in the NFL worse?

 

[deerpathdave]

Reading a little more into this, I am guessing that the other expensive Veterans are players the Eagles are trying to keep around. Thinking Ryans, Herremans, Williams, McCoy and Cole. They could still be cut, but they are either staying, being offered as trade, or being asked to take a pay cut.

 

[deerpathdave]

Why did we just make the best special teams in the NFL worse?

Well, yes. But $4M for a backup to a backup TE is on the expensive side. Trey Burton is as good a player at a fraction of the price. I am guessing that they asked Casey to stay at the Vet minimum and he opted to walk.

 

[eaglesnut]

Well, yes. But $4M for a backup to a backup TE is on the expensive side. Trey Burton is as good a player at a fraction of the price. I am guessing that they asked Casey to stay at the Vet minimum and he opted to walk.

It's okay to overpay some guys if you don't need the money. You can't have a team, or any sustainable successful organization, with all underpaid guys.

We had the best special teams in the league with both Burton and Casey. Let's keep the best unit on the team intact. Without the special teams we'd have been drafting top 10.

 

[deerpathdave]

It's okay to overpay some guys if you don't need the money. You can't have a team, or any sustainable successful organization, with all underpaid guys.

We had the best special teams in the league with both Burton and Casey. Let's keep the best unit on the team intact. Without the special teams we'd have been drafting top 10.

Can't say I disagree. James Casey led the Eagles in Special Teams snaps and they were the best in the business.

Still, he earned three times the paycheck of the other Special Teams specialists (Braman & Maragos). His contract was signed prior to drafting Ertz. The Eagles did a good job of keeping him and honoring his contract paying him $8M for two years of relatively light work. Maybe at the end of the day Casey will come back for a market value contract.

 

[deerpathdave]

Can't say I disagree. James Casey led the Eagles in Special Teams snaps and they were the best in the business.

Still, he earned three times the paycheck of the other Special Teams specialists (Braman & Maragos). His contract was signed prior to drafting Ertz. The Eagles did a good job of keeping him and honoring his contract paying him $8M for two years of relatively light work. Maybe at the end of the day Casey will come back for a market value contract.

Before I get upset at the Eagles for pinching pennies, I need to see how the rest of the off season plays out. I am assuming they will spend their money by resigning Maclin, extending Cox, and picking up a couple of good secondary players. And at this point, they are still opting to over pay (rather than pinch pennies) for guys like McCoy, Cole, Herremans and Ryans. Makes more sense to overpay a starter than a special teamer.

 

[deerpathdave]

I am really interested to see how this offseason plays out. For the first time in forever, the guy with final say on both the 90 and 53 man roster is a football guy. As good a job as Roseman did in some things, at the end of the day, he was/is a geek and a contracts/money guy. Kelly is clearly a football guy first, foremost and last. This dynamic could make this offseason one like none we have ever seen. I think we will see some crazy stuff go on. The biggest one that I think is very possible is moving on from Shady. The more Kelly doesn't talk, the more I figure he has up his sleeve. When he reveals his hand, I think he will have a lot to say.

 

[Iggloo]

There are rumors Cary Williams is next but team sources say that hasn't happened.

 

[deerpathdave]

There are rumors Cary Williams is next but team sources say that hasn't happened.

The smart play is to sign Maxwell or another FA, draft a CB early and keep Williams. Let the rookie push Williams for the starting job, and then let Williams walk after the season is over and the rookie has proved himself.

 

[mall3013]

The smart play is to sign Maxwell or another FA, draft a CB early and keep Williams. Let the rookie push Williams for the starting job, and then let Williams walk after the season is over and the rookie has proved himself.

I think you are on to something. You may have nailed it on the head.

 

[eaglesnut]

Can't say I disagree. James Casey led the Eagles in Special Teams snaps and they were the best in the business.

Still, he earned three times the paycheck of the other Special Teams specialists (Braman & Maragos). His contract was signed prior to drafting Ertz. The Eagles did a good job of keeping him and honoring his contract paying him $8M for two years of relatively light work. Maybe at the end of the day Casey will come back for a market value contract.

It's a weird way to look at the offseason by first cutting a whole bunch of stuff that you don't have to. What is this a video game?

If he comes back on a more appropriate deal, then obviously they played it correctly. (And that's what I just did in a mock offseason I participate in each year. I actually saved 5 million by cutting and re-signing both Celek and Casey.)

 

[WIZ]

Casey will go out and test his worth. He'll either get a deal or come back cheaper, you can always find a good ST'er at half that.

It would be stupid to let Cary walk. He's a douche but he's good enough to start and really good if LB and S are addressed.

 

[deerpathdave]

It's a weird way to look at the offseason by first cutting a whole bunch of stuff that you don't have to. What is this a video game?

If he comes back on a more appropriate deal, then obviously they played it correctly. (And that's what I just did in a mock offseason I participate in each year. I actually saved 5 million by cutting and re-signing both Celek and Casey.)

If they wait until August (which would be smarter from a risk mitigation perspective [what is Burton, Ertz or Celek get injured?]), Casey would have few options.

I suspect that it has a lot to do with treating players with respect. By cutting Casey now, they are giving him the opportunity to sign with anyone, while the money is out there. Casey may come back at a reduced salary later, comfortable that he is playing on a market value contract.

But players and agents across the league observe this sort of thing and take it into account when they sign. This improves the Eagles rep with both Casey and other players.

 

[Iggloo]

I tend to agree that sconces should be kept for another year. Why create more holes? He can be an OK #2 corner in our scheme. But we do need a #1 and I don't think it's Maxwell, who is also more of a #2 corner prospect. I fear he is going to be greatly overpaid.

 

[Birds4life81]

Casey will go out and test his worth. He'll either get a deal or come back cheaper, you can always find a good ST'er at half that.

It would be stupid to let Cary walk. He's a douche but he's good enough to start and really good if LB and S are addressed.

The only things he's "really good" at is holding, illegal contact and PI.

 

[WIZ]

The only things he's "really good" at is holding, illegal contact and PI.

They sure seemed to stay away from him and abuse Fletcher. If that's all he was really good at wouldn't they have spread it around more?

 

[Birds4life81]

They sure seemed to stay away from him and abuse Fletcher. If that's all he was really good at wouldn't they have spread it around more?

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on him, but it seemed like teams had their way with both of these guys at CB. Fletcher was getting burnt and Williams was getting flagged. I was never a fan of this signing in the first place. Too much bark and not enough bite.

 

[WIZ]

Yep I can't stand him either but I would rather not go out and get two new CB'S in one year.