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Kyrie Already Walking on Thin Ice

Discussion in 'NBA Basketball Forum' started by BigKen, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. broncosmitty

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    I wonder how many white guys Boston could get for Uncle Drew?



    Prolly a bunch.
     



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    The issue is that Tatum's most impressive facet in the playoffs was that he was the goto guy for the Celtics in important stretches. His numbers in the playoffs were solid but not eye popping.

    So with Kyrie and Hayward on the floor, will Tatum still be the go to guy?
     
  3. Gman

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    The C's don't play at a particularly fast pace and run a more deliberate offense than most NBA teams... numbers for Boston don't tend to be "eye popping"...

    ... if you watched the playoffs, though, you saw that Tatum had "it"... at least, that's my opinion. I'm not talking about leading the league in stats... I'm talking about "it."
    I don't think the C's have a "go to" guy next season... I think they run a very team and system based approach... no one or two focal points or one or two bread and butter plays.

    ... this used to be a losing formula in the NBA... I think it's the next evolution of positionless basketball, though.
     
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    If healthy I'd say that Kyrie should be called the Celtics go to guy. He's proven he can hit clutch shots @ important moments. And very few can create off the dribble as effectively as he can.
     
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    I see what you're saying... and you do have a point: not every play or call works out... sometimes, things break down... and it's great to have a guy like Kyrie who can create something out of nothing in situations like that.

    But that's different than having a "go to" guy... where the play is to get it in their hands and let them do their thing either individually or with a bread and butter play (i.e. - give it to Harden and run the pick'n'roll)...

    ... the C's run a much more deliberate offense than that... and now they have the cogs to have triple threats everywhere... either 4 or 5 triple threats at a time, the big majority of any given game.

    It's gonna be something.
     
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    I agree w/ you. And you were looking @ things from a different perspective than I was.
     
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    I don't care what system you use, talent wins championships.
     
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    Well... the C's got plenty of talent, too... that's the great part, a beautiful marriage of talent and new philosophy...

    ... I daresay that if Golden State wasn't the most talented team of all time (arguably), folks would be talking more about how crazy talented the Boston Celtics are.
     
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    The Celtics are one of the most talented teams in the NBA. But they are certainly not flawless.
     
  10. trojanfan12

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    Ooooh, I don't think it is. I forget who I was listening to this morning, but there was an ex-player being interviewed and he said that Kyrie's old teammates from the Cavs have some stories about Kyrie's crazy conspiracy theories.

    Apparently, he believes in more than just a flat earth.
     
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    You guys should bring back The White Mamba (aka The Poor Man's Mark Madsen) to be your go to guy. :nod:
     
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    Yup, He looks like Derek Rose to me. Could have been the the 2nd best player in the league and then the injuries derail him.
     
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    2nd best player in the league? Not without massive improvement on the defensive end.
     
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    It's not like his playoff output was overwhelming; he got 18/4.4 on 47/32/85% shooting. His regular season output was stronger, just with 4 fewer shots attempted in 6 less minutes a game (14/5 on 48/43/83%), of course against some weaker competition at times.
     
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    i agree with both of you

    it mostly IS post stirring- but Kyrie for some reason thinks its like some big philosophical thought experiment and hes smarter than everyone else and just so intrigued dthat people flipped out when he said the world was flat.

    Kyrie is basically a dumbass basketball player that thinks he is a lot smarter than he really is.....like some undergrad student that thinks he is "woke" because he takes a freshman philosophy class.


    Still- UNBELIEVABILY fun basketball player to watch. If I was done 1 with 7 seconds left on the clock i think that he might be the #1 option in all the NBA to get me a bucket. Best handles in the game, and he has the best combo of shooting and finishing at the rim in the game probably.

    but he plays No d, is injury prone, and is kind of an arrogant asshole.
     
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    He got stronger as the playoffs wore on... blossomed before our eyes...

    To repeat what I said earlier: y'all are talking stat's... I'm talking "it"
     
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