Kyle Busch

[pabartl787]

As we head into the final race of the season and the crowning of a new champion I have to ask my fellow NASCAR fans: Do you have an issue with Kyle Busch winning the title even though he missed 1/3 of the season?

Personally I think this will be a grave misjustice. I understand he won multiple races but the fact remains he did miss 12 races due to injury.

 

[bksballer89]

I agree

 

[4down20]

I think it highlights the bullshit Nascar has become and I hope he fucking wins it all.

It's not his fault Nascar thought up this shitty format.

 

[Retroram52]

This sounds eerily familiar to past folks who won races and then yielded the championship to others who won nothing but were consistent finishers. Does Dale Sr. and Rusty Wallace come to mind?

 

[Goldbug]

They set the bar high enough for him to be reinstated so I have no problem with it. And he did far more than just the minimum to get back into the pursuit of a championship. He's won multiple times, he hasn't had any major incidents with other drivers and he has proved that hard work can overcome adversity. Like him or not, he has done more than enough to have a shot at the championship.

 

[jeffro151]

They set the bar high enough for him to be reinstated so I have no problem with it. And he did far more than just the minimum to get back into the pursuit of a championship. He's won multiple times, he hasn't had any major incidents with other drivers and he has proved that hard work can overcome adversity. Like him or not, he has done more than enough to have a shot at the championship.

How was the bar high? All he had to do was win 1 race and be in the Top 30 in points.

 

[jeffro151]

It's absolute horse shit that he is competing for the title. It's essentially like if in the NFL, a team only played 8 games and was able to win the division by winning all of those games. It wouldn't be fair to the other teams that have had to endure playing the entire season.

 

[Retroram52]

This system that numbnuts Brian France has implemented has been flawed from the get-go. Kyle Busch in a position to win a championship with this stupid chase is just complete bullshit and only cheapens and weakens an already garbage product.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Let me be clear. I am not a fan of the Chase format, but with that said, all drivers have the same path to the championship as every other driver, and you can't discredit a driver for winning the championship under any championship format.

Yes, Kyle Busch missed 9 races, but under the rules for the Chase, Kyle got 4 wins and got in the top 30 in points.

It is a definite sign that this format should be scrapped, but as it stands, I don't have an issue with Kyle Busch being eligible for the championship at this point. He played by the rules that were laid out, and according to the rules, he has earned his spot.

 

[Retroram52]

I am not questioning Busch's entrance into the championship under the current rules of the chase Chewbaccer. I am just stating the system cheapens the very purpose of racing much in the same manner that got Rusty Wallace up in arms back-in-the-day when Dale Sr. took a championship without winning a race while Rusty won several races that year but had DNF's that took his championship based on finishing position consistency.

 

[Chewbaccer]

I am not questioning Busch's entrance into the championship under the current rules of the chase Chewbaccer. I am just stating the system cheapens the very purpose of racing much in the same manner that got Rusty Wallace up in arms back-in-the-day when Dale Sr. took a championship without winning a race while Rusty won several races that year but had DNF's that took his championship based on finishing position consistency.

I wasn't calling anyone out, just stating my thoughts on it.

I don't like the process, but it doesn't cheapen the championship. All drivers are playing under the same set of rules.

If Jeff Gordon wins the championship on Sunday, you can bet your ass I won't be happy, but I'll have to give him credit for a 5th championship just the same.

But, Dale Sr never won a championship without winning at least 4 races in that season, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

He won 5 times in 1980, 5 in 86, 11 in 87, 8 in 90, 4 in 91, 6 in 93, and 4 in 94.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Jeff Gordon won 10 races in 1996, but Terry Labonte won the championship despite only winning two races, that might be what you're thinking of.

There has never been a Cup champion that didn't win a race during the championship season.

 

[Goldbug]

How was the bar high? All he had to do was win 1 race and be in the Top 30 in points.

76 different drivers have driven in NASCAR races this year. Only 12 have won a race. Yea, it's real easy to win a race.

 

[jeffro151]

76 different drivers have driven in NASCAR races this year. Only 12 have won a race. Yea, it's real easy to win a race.

Busch is also one of the best drivers in Nascar. A little different to compare him to say Justin Allgaier and Danica Patrick, no?

 

[Chewbaccer]

76 different drivers have driven in NASCAR races this year. Only 12 have won a race. Yea, it's real easy to win a race.

76 different drivers, but only 13 of them have rides/driving ability capable of winning at non restrictor plate tracks.

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Only Kasey Kahne in that group hasn't won a race this season. Childress and Roush lost their only drivers capable of getting their subpar equipment in victory lane with Harvick leaving RCR and Edwards and Kenseth leaving Roush in recent years. MWR, who was once a pretty competitive team is shutting down at season's end.

As recently as just a few years ago, there were at least 20 cars in the field capable of winning each race back when RCR and Roush put together quality teams, Tony Stewart was still a championship contender and MWR was winning races.

 

[Goldbug]

Busch is also one of the best drivers in Nascar. A little different to compare him to say Justin Allgaier and Danica Patrick, no?

Without a doubt. But Busch is having to compete against a dozen other drivers who are hell on wheels. I know a lot of people hate Kyle Busch for their own reasons but you have to admit that winning even one race in NASCAR is hard. Very hard. And if you take away a fair percentage of the races because a guy is severely injured it is even more difficult to get a victory so you can make the Chase because your number of opportunities has been reduced. And he didn't win just 1 race. He won 4. He's more than proved he's "Chase Worthy".

 

[Psych-Ward]

Kyle Busch did what nascar asked him to do, so you can't fault him.....

It's Nascar that sucks!!!

As it was put to me by the Captain, "What's to stop other top drivers from taking time off once they learn of the ease it is to make the chase!"

 

[pabartl787]

Kyle Busch did what nascar asked him to do, so you can't fault him.....

It's Nascar that sucks!!!

As it was put to me by the Captain, "What's to stop other top drivers from taking time off once they learn of the ease it is to make the chase!"

I think its safe to say that no one is blaming Busch for this. I dont like the guy but this isn't his doing.

The only thing I can think of that will stop others drivers from skipping "regular season" races is sponsors. They pay alot of money to put their name on the hoods.

 

[jeffro151]

Doesn't Nascar have to grant an exception for a driver to make the chase if they miss races? I think they would eliminate anyone skipping races for the hell of it.

 

[pabartl787]

I'm pretty sure if they did we would've heard of it. All I heard about was win a race and get into top 30