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Johnny Manziel to the Seahawks?

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Continuing off topic, this point has always baffled me. In fact, your post spurred me to google card counting. I don't gamble and have never been to a casino but I've heard of this for years. As far as I can tell, card counters remember a tally of the value of cards played and thus removed from the chance of being drawn again. They use this information to inform their current bets.

WHAT THE FUCK ELSE WOULD YOU DO?!!!

Jesus, are you supposed to erase them from your memory and make bets it inopportune times? Among the behaviors of card counters they list:
  • Large buy ins
  • Large bet sizes
  • Dramatic bet variation especially with larger bets being placed only at the end of a shoe
  • Playing only a small number of hands during a shoe
  • Refusal to play rated
  • Table hopping
  • Playing multiple hands
I ask again, what else would you do? I can see curbing table hopping as problematic in itself but it seems crazy to require a bettor to forget what he's seen.

What am I missing?

....oh, and Johnny's washed up. He's had too many rehab chances for one of them to finally work. The list of successful QBs who spent their first years rehabbing and re-saucing?

It is largely a myth that casinos will eject you for card counting.

First off, card counting is really hard. It requires a mathematical and disciplined mind that doesn't get distracted easily because the house is constantly trying to distract you. Secondly, the vast majority of people who try to card count fail miserably. A few succeed but it isn't what people think it is.

IIRC, if you play blackjack by the book, you will win about 49% of the time. If you card count and play by the book you will win 51% of the time or so. Needless to say the house doesn't much care about you based on those odds.

Where the house DOES care about you is when you are part of a team. You have 4 or 5 guys playing minimum bet poker who wait until the deck is really juicy and call the big player in to max bet the game. That's where the house can get really hit. They will definitely boot you for that.
 

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Unlike Lil' Rusty, Johnny IS black enough, for me.


Plus, no wife for Golden Tate to blow out.
 

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It is largely a myth that casinos will eject you for card counting.

First off, card counting is really hard. It requires a mathematical and disciplined mind that doesn't get distracted easily because the house is constantly trying to distract you. Secondly, the vast majority of people who try to card count fail miserably. A few succeed but it isn't what people think it is.

IIRC, if you play blackjack by the book, you will win about 49% of the time. If you card count and play by the book you will win 51% of the time or so. Needless to say the house doesn't much care about you based on those odds.

Where the house DOES care about you is when you are part of a team. You have 4 or 5 guys playing minimum bet poker who wait until the deck is really juicy and call the big player in to max bet the game. That's where the house can get really hit. They will definitely boot you for that.

More people are caught card counting with some kind of mechanical devise than actual teams. That is why they freak out when you pick up your phone while sitting at the table. Yeah they can't do anything about you using your brain to count cards as like you said it is very difficult to do because they deal so quickly to try and combat that happening. Now the best ones while yes the whole 51% doesn't sound like much to worry about why they hate it is because those guys know when to make the big bets. So you go from $100 a bet to $5000 a bet and are winning 2/3rd's of your hands then yeah it is costing them some good money. Again though not much they can do about that. They have banned some professionals from their casinos because they have won so much money doing just that but that only happens very rarely. Like you said with how difficult it is there are only a handful that can do it well.
 

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Look. We've talked about this before.
He is a distraction and definitely not needed.
Stop it now.
 

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Look. We've talked about this before.
He is a distraction and definitely not needed.
Stop it now.
He'd love it in Seattle, it will change his life atound. I say Pete has to make it happen.
 

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What has Lynch been the last 16 months or so?
What has he been up to the last 16 months? He has been up to being a reliable beast.
I think his days as a Seahawk are over and all Seahawk fans adore and respect his on field performance.
 

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Definitely then, it has been decided by NFC rivals, Seabirds need to embrace Johnny. Cmon Pete, take him under your protective wing, save Johnny!!
 

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His agent cut ties with him, and the Brown's will be releasing him any minute now. His father evidently said that he worries Manziel will be dead before he hits 24.

I was listening to our local radio guys on the way in to work today, and they brought up Johnny Football coming here, and how it would benefit him to form a relationship with Pete Carroll.

I think it's at least interesting to think about.
Manziel seems like a reckless attention whore who is unable to take his career seriously. Not a good fit for the Hawks. If you're not doing everything that you can to get better, day in and day out, then you're not going to make it in that locker room. Manziel's future is in reality TV. Johnny Trainwreck, or something like that.
 
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