Is there really a DH GOAT controversy?

[PolarVortex]

Merry Christmas, guys. Here is my Christmas present to you all.

OPS+
Edgar 147
Ortiz 141

WAR
Edgar 68.4 in 8674 plate appearances
Ortiz 55.3 in 10091 plate appearances

 

[wazzu31]

Merry Christmas, guys. Here is my Christmas present to you all.

OPS+
Edgar 147
Ortiz 141

WAR
Edgar 68.4 in 8674 plate appearances
Ortiz 55.3 in 10091 plate appearances

One was confirmed to be taking PED’s, so it really shouldn’t be a question. But everyone overlooked Ortiz and Pettite getting popped.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

Merry Christmas, guys. Here is my Christmas present to you all.

OPS+
Edgar 147
Ortiz 141

WAR
Edgar 68.4 in 8674 plate appearances
Ortiz 55.3 in 10091 plate appearances

How do their postseason stats compare?

 

[ulmax]

Merry Christmas, guys. Here is my Christmas present to you all.

OPS+
Edgar 147
Ortiz 141

WAR
Edgar 68.4 in 8674 plate appearances
Ortiz 55.3 in 10091 plate appearances

I like the ops.plus stat.
Check..shentons.
Cuz.i think.garver.will
need..help..

 

[ulmax]

The story is .I think.

Rojas...1b..Rojas.fld.95o.at 3b.
Urias....2b...988.fld at2b
France ...3B...964.fld.at3b.

Rojas still needs.to.back.up.
2b...and3b..
So shenton.1b/3b/Dh.
AAA. 300.ave.in east.coast.is good..
30..hrs..
Will.walk.on base.about.1/3
Of the time

 

[PolarVortex]

How do their postseason stats compare?

Post Season? You are talking about a sample set that represents about 5% of a regular season?
Here is something you might not know. You have to perform in the regular season for the postseason to even be a reality.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

Post Season? You are talking about a sample set that represents about 5% of a regular season?
Here is something you might not know. You have to perform in the regular season for the postseason to even be a reality.

Papi did that. And then went on and got the rings. And when it mattered the most, the postseason, he put up clutch performance after clutch performance.

Not taking anything away from anybody else. Just saying, #34 was a mother fucker when it mattered.


p.s. And the mafia tried to put a hit on him which he survived, which adds to his already legendary legend.

 

[PolarVortex]

Papi did that. And then went on and got the rings. And when it mattered the most, the postseason, he put up clutch performance after clutch performance.

Not taking anything away from anybody else. Just saying, #34 was a mother fucker when it mattered.


p.s. And the mafia tried to put a hit on him which he survived, which adds to his already legendary legend.

So, by your logic, Bucky Dent > Papi Ortiz. OK, thanks for your input.

 

[ulmax]

Fly stupid.we traded him for colome.
And now colome.gone.
We need him back..

True story..
Why i.m willing.to give..
Up.harry.ford.to Tampa..

For Ramirez.then trade to.
Detroit for.carpenter.Rf

Shentons.
Askew.Lhp.
Galue.Rhp

 

[ulmax]

Go bazardo.and saucedo.
To.detriot witch.needs bullpen..
Then ya lookin for .2.bull.pen guys..
LHp..and a closer..

Matt moore.works for me.
For.lhp..
Someone.else pick.the closer..lolol..not me.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

So, by your logic, Bucky Dent > Papi Ortiz. OK, thanks for your input.

You got that from my logic?

Lucky for you that's a sweet looking ass in you av which means you can't be all that bad, otherwise I might have to question your ability to deduce logic.

 

[ulmax]

If .all that and it's a lot ..then.6mil.
About to spend..on..bull pen guys.

Then a trade for. a back up.cf..
Witch..kelenic was...
..but know.need..other..
Estuary Ruiz..250.ave..67.stolen works.
For me..
That is the run down of needs..
However
.
Ya crack...a nut..

 

[ulmax]

Mariners would really like if.trammel could .hit
250.--260.but we have not seen that..
So they prob will trade him.


Or see if he can do it one more time.

 

[ulmax]

Merry Christmas, guys. Here is my Christmas present to you all.

OPS+
Edgar 147
Ortiz 141

WAR
Edgar 68.4 in 8674 plate appearances
Ortiz 55.3 in 10091 plate appearances

Nelson Cruz...ops..plus
20 19...,168....minnesota
2020......171....minnesota
2021........148
2022........89.washington
2023.........88.san Diego..
Lifetime..130.ops plus.

I hope Nelson cruz.retires.
A mariners like.ichiro..

But i respect. His wishes on
That..
But..
Like
Edgar.martinez.
One.of the best.dhes.
Seattle...ever had..

All.in all...should be in this
Conversation.
Plate appearance..8396.

 

[ulmax]

For fun.some more stats.

Cruz.hrs.,464.....,.....rbi.s.1325
Martinez..hrs.309..rbis.1261.
Ortiz.....,...hrs.541....rbis..1768..

All.these.guys should.be hall of famers
But we can't say that ........,..yet...
As the 1st..
Dh.hall.of famer..Martinez.is.the.standard.
At Dh.
Cruz.seems to qualify...,

 

[ulmax]

So, by your logic, Bucky Dent > Papi Ortiz. OK, thanks for your input.

Ortiz..probably..the best dh.of all.time.

So.far..

Cruz.
Martinez.
Ortiz.
Some good company...at..famer..dh.there

 

[ulmax]

Making.rojas..a 1b.as.well
Makes it possible.
To platoon 3b.and.1b..
Adding Shelton..is.platoon.dh.
And.backup...1b..
While...rojas..is.backup.2b.
Both are back up.3b..

Gives.scott.a lot..of options..late.in the game..if.needed

 

[ulmax]

I had.this.trade.and working on it.
To.accuire.ramires as.dh.for.mariners.
But know..
They.have...garver...so..ok.
No bellinger.have to go with.
The backup.
Plan carpenter...just so happens.

Detroit.needs..Right handed.hitters.
And bull pen guys...
So i flipped..the trade I had in mind.already.

Into.a right fielder..
Carpenter..for Ramirez.
Bazardo..soucedo.

So that is the proposal..

Low.and..so..told

I had no way.to get.carpeter.before.
But by some lucky.
Stars.
I feel into it...

 

[ulmax]

I knew.if I talked.enough..gr..it.
I would figure,something out..

What that actually. Is...

We don't know..
Lolololllloo

 

[ulmax]

I started back.in.late.august..so.
I was ahead.of a.lot of people.
And the media.

So..My.linebup..

1.crawford..ss..L/L.
2.julio...,......cf..
3.carpenter.....RF...L/L.(.this is Colby's.guy.
His idea.)..
4.garver...........dh.
5.Rojas.....,.........1b.L/L..
6.raliegh..........cat/swit.
7.france............3b
8.canzone......LF...L/L..
9..urias.............2b..

Bench....
Zavala...cat..
Moore....ss .utility.
Ruiz...cf..rabbit...works.better..than.haggerty..so.a trade
I don't know.who..
Shenton...1b/3b../Dh..L/L.