How many more Rings would Bill have if Brady wasnt born?

[DirtDirtDirt]

Every great has bad moments... But his good moments clearly outweigh the bad ... Even in the loss last year vs the Broncos he made some ridiculously good throws, that last one to Cronk on 4th down being one of the best passes of the year... Sure he had the pick to end it for the 2 point conversion but that was a situation where he had to force it... If you look at Brady's performances in the post season overall he's been extremely good ..

Jesus Dude, with all due respect, you would never say about any other QB what you just said about Tom Bradys' performance in Denver in January....NO, he did not make some ridiculously good throws....NO, that was not the throw of the season.....His TD pass to cut the lead to 2 was thrown up for grabs and Gronk bailed him out by fighting it away from the defender, and the 2 point conversion, he completely missed a wide open Gronk

he was awful, and by FAR the #1 reason the Pats lost that game

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

LOL, you are kidding right???

I think you have the wrong play, because this is the one where it was the corner (Harris) and the safety (Bush) covering him, no LB... If you are talking about the 4th and 15 where Gronk had a half step on the defense and Brady dropped it right into his hands with him not having to slow down a bit to let the D make a play on it? That was an amazing play by the QB to put it right where it had to be.

The 4th and goal was the one where he put it on the numbers between the DB and the LB.



Like How the fuck is hitting your WR 40 yards downfield over the correct shoulder with his arms extended right in the hands when he's running full speed anything but an absolutely fucking gorgeous ball?

Yeah, it was a great throw, the only one of the day...And one made by Quarterbacks every week, but lets call it an all timer, it is Tom Brady after all

 

[Rockinkuwait]

An entire day all over the sports world GUSHING over the greatness of Bill Belichick

Sports personalities

Former and current NFL players and coaches

Absolutely gushing

People wanting to re-name the Lombardi


Not in this place, this place we diminish his greatness, in order to glorify Bradys'

Not one person has said Belichick is anything but a great coach..

And those SAME EXACT sports personalities, players, coaches etc ALL have said Brady is an elite QB. So are they right or wrong? Which is it Dirt? Because you can't say "oh they are all full of shit" when they call Brady elite, but then say "see those guys know what they're talking about" when they say Belichick is great.


Which is Junk? Parcells or Lawrence Taylor? I say both are great.. But for you, one of them HAS to be absolute garbage. A stinking pile of fucking shit to not even be able to do half of what Brady/Belichick have.



Keep peddling that story if that's what you need to make your point try and stick. Just don't try and pretend it is reality.



Tell me, which was the one talent, Montana/Young, Rice, or Walsh? If you can't see that there can be multiple elite people on one dynasty.. .which of them is junk?


See what you are stuck defending when your logic puts you in this corner?

 

[Rockinkuwait]

he was awful, and by FAR the #1 reason the Pats lost that game

Yeah I mean Tom Brady as the Pats leading rusher gets the blame too. How can Belichick win when Brady will only run for 13 yards for him.

Come on, this is just getting retarded now.

You are literally saying after a game where you watched Volmmer and Cannon, that you came up with Tom Brady as the worst Patriot?

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Yeah, it was a great throw, the only one of the day...And one made by Quarterbacks every week, but lets call it an all timer, it is Tom Brady after all

I love how you can't even say what he could have done better on that throw.... but just need to bash it... because...

lol. It's beyond a joke now.

 

[Dude]

An entire day all over the sports world GUSHING over the greatness of Bill Belichick

Sports personalities

Former and current NFL players and coaches

Absolutely gushing

People wanting to re-name the Lombardi


Not in this place, this place we diminish his greatness, in order to glorify Bradys'

I love this place, very entertaining!

 

[Psych-Ward]

damn @DirtDirtDirt you really get'em riled up at yourn shin-digs!!!!

 

[Delphic1]

You know Brady* ball washing is at all time high when a ball thrown up for grabs is being deemed as a perfect pass.

And this even when Garopollo, and other QBs playing in that offense have shown to do the exact same things that Brady* has done so far.

 

[Dude]

You know Brady* ball washing is at all time high when a ball thrown up for grabs is being deemed as a perfect pass.

And this even when Garopollo, and other QBs playing in that offense have shown to do the exact same things that Brady* has done so far.

Didn't realize those guys were so old.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Yeah I mean Tom Brady as the Pats leading rusher gets the blame too. How can Belichick win when Brady will only run for 13 yards for him.

Come on, this is just getting retarded now.

You are literally saying after a game where you watched Volmmer and Cannon, that you came up with Tom Brady as the worst Patriot?

If he is going to get credit for all the postseason wins (and yes that's what we did here today), than he's gonna have to take the criticism for the losses, that's how it works

Its not "All Brady" when they win

"All Everyone else" when they lose

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I love how you can't even say what he could have done better on that throw.... but just need to bash it... because...

lol. It's beyond a joke now.

Great Throw.....The pass down the seem to Gronk? Definitely his most shining moment that day......But the TD pass was as pickable as it was catchable, and if it wasn't Gronk on the other end of it.....And he completely botched the 2 point conversion

 

[HammerDown]

Jamarcus Russell could win 4 SBs throwing 5 yard slants on illegal pick plays.

A sure path to establish your HOF career.

There are probably dozens of high school qbs more skilled that Tom *Brady. We know that now.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Not one person has said Belichick is anything but a great coach..

And those SAME EXACT sports personalities, players, coaches etc ALL have said Brady is an elite QB. So are they right or wrong? Which is it Dirt? Because you can't say "oh they are all full of shit" when they call Brady elite, but then say "see those guys know what they're talking about" when they say Belichick is great.


Which is Junk? Parcells or Lawrence Taylor? I say both are great.. But for you, one of them HAS to be absolute garbage. A stinking pile of fucking shit to not even be able to do half of what Brady/Belichick have.



Keep peddling that story if that's what you need to make your point try and stick. Just don't try and pretend it is reality.



Tell me, which was the one talent, Montana/Young, Rice, or Walsh? If you can't see that there can be multiple elite people on one dynasty.. .which of them is junk?


See what you are stuck defending when your logic puts you in this corner?

Fair point......But many of these players/coaches etc., are starting to say "Hmmmm, is it just the system", is it Belihchick......And that's mostly all Im doing here......If you wanna act like youre not hearing the same around the sports world, You are not being honest

There is an article right now on CBSsports that says "Bradys' demise is greatly exaggerated"....So the apologists are now out in full force, because they know people are starting to question it all

 

[HammerDown]

"Without Brady we don't win that Super Bowl." - Sonny (with a straight face)

 

[Clayton]

Probably would've had Drew Bledsoe from 2002-2006. Patriots probably would've had 1 or 2 playoff runs in there but probably no rings.

2007 was when Brady Quinn fell so I could see them drafting him as a replacement. Def not going 16-0 with him. They maybe make the playoffs around 10 wins.

Couldn't get Matthew Stafford in 2008 because the Lions went winless and the Lions and Rams probably were two of the worst teams of all time that year.


I think maybe the Patriots rebound and win a Super Bowl or two somewhere but its MUCH easier seeing Bellichick getting fired.

 

[Dude]

There are probably dozens of high school qbs more skilled that Tom *Brady. We know that now.

Hey @HammerDown have they called you yet.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Lol at whining about systems. If Brady executes the system so well, then it ought to be treated as prima facia fact he is that good; the only question is how good that good is. Rodgers is in a WCO. Bradford is in a Air Coryell now in Minnesota, and that evil and diabolical Erhardt Perkins is run by the evil Hoody!

 

[cerealboi]

It's going to take me a while to go through and bullshit all of Dirt's posts in this thread. Gonna have to work late.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

It's going to take me a while to go through and bullshit all of Dirt's posts in this thread. Gonna have to work late.

Just past a "Winner" next to every Pats fan post

 

[PatsFan2003]

You still have to have a good QB. The first year or two of Belichick coaching the Patriots when Bledsoe was the QB weren't that great. Cassell didn't even make the playoffs.

You can't give the Patriots and Belichick credit without giving the credit Brady. Funny how that works.