Give Me Your Top 10 RB's for 2018

[Across The Field]

I had no idea he broke that many tackles. I know coming out of college the knock on him was that he had no functional strength. From what I've seen, my guess is that many of his broken tackles are based on cutting the ball back in the middle and putting defenders on skates.

The reality is that the past two drafts were stacked at RB and even being a top 20 RB in today's NFL is a compliment.

If that's the case, so be it. I have no problem if a RB is doing that to break tackles. Could also be why he has only fumbled 3 times in the last 2 years.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I've seen nothing that would elevate many of them, including Fournette, McCafferey, Mixon, Penny, Guice, or Michel over him. In fact, of these last 2 classes, the only ones I'd take over Gordon would be Hunt, Kamara, Barkley, and maybe Chubb.

 

[Clayton]

If that's the case, so be it. I have no problem if a RB is doing that to break tackles. Could also be why he has only fumbled 3 times in the last 2 years.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I've seen nothing that would elevate many of them, including Fournette, McCafferey, Mixon, Penny, Guice, or Michel over him. In fact, of these last 2 classes, the only ones I'd take over Gordon would be Hunt, Kamara, Barkley, and maybe Chubb.

Personally, I still need to see improvement from Gordon. In terms of the AFC West, I have him in the same category as guys like Derek Carr, Amari Cooper, Dee Ford and Shane Ray. You see some flashes of greatness but I'm not sure you see enough consistency to really be too impressed.

 

[Across The Field]

Personally, I still need to see improvement from Gordon. In terms of the AFC West, I have him in the same category as guys like Derek Carr, Amari Cooper, Dee Ford and Shane Ray. You see some flashes of greatness but I'm not sure you see enough consistency to really be too impressed.

He has improved, though. His rookie season was a disaster. 2016 was pretty good - 1400+ yards from scrimmage, 12 total TDs, 2 fumbles. Then last year he had nearly 1600 yards from scrimmage, another 12 TDs, 1 fumble, and was 4th in broken tackles. I'll take that from my starter any day, especially when I'm telling him to do it behind such a shit offensive line. I think this year he takes another step forward.

 

[Clayton]

He has improved, though. His rookie season was a disaster. 2016 was pretty good - 1400+ yards from scrimmage, 12 total TDs, 2 fumbles. Then last year he had nearly 1600 yards from scrimmage, another 12 TDs, 1 fumble, and was 4th in broken tackles. I'll take that from my starter any day, especially when I'm telling him to do it behind such a shit offensive line. I think this year he takes another step forward.

You mention his oline but he also has a franchise QB, stacked WRs and at the time above average TEs.

His stats against the good defenses he played:

Dallas. 21 attempts, 65 yds, O Tds
Buffalo. 20 attempts, 80 yds, 1 Td
Jax. 16 attempts, 27 yds, 0 Tds
Denver. 18 attempts, 38 yds, 0 Tds
Philly. 10 attempts, 22 yds, 0 Tds
Denver. 18 attempts, 54 yds, 0 Tds.

He beat up on the weaker defenses. I don't know if thats a knock against him or his oline but its certainly worth mentioning.

 

[ericd7633]

You're not always going to get more TDs. If you're going to bring up % of broken tackles, then Le'veon Bell, LeSean McCoy, Zeke, Jordan Howard, and Leonard Fournette must be nowhere near the top 10, because they had a lower % of broken tackles.

You're nit-picking here. His overall body of work merits top 10 selection, and again, this is all with beyond a doubt one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL.

His overall merit doesn't belong in the top 10 and hasn't been since he came into the league. At this point he looks like another Wisconsin RB bust, especially considering where he was drafted.

 

[Across The Field]

You mention his oline but he also has a franchise QB, stacked WRs and at the time above average TEs.

His stats against the good defenses he played:

Dallas. 21 attempts, 65 yds, O Tds
Buffalo. 20 attempts, 80 yds, 1 Td
Jax. 16 attempts, 27 yds, 0 Tds
Denver. 18 attempts, 38 yds, 0 Tds
Philly. 10 attempts, 22 yds, 0 Tds
Denver. 18 attempts, 54 yds, 0 Tds.

He beat up on the weaker defenses. I don't know if thats a knock against him or his oline but its certainly worth mentioning.

I feel like you can probably run that same report on most backs facing top end defenses and it will come out similarly.

Having a franchise QB has helped, but he didn't always have stacked WRs. His rookie year, their leading receiver was Danny Woodhead, and Allen only had 725 yards and 4 TDs, so it wasn't a great year through the air. In 2016, Allen missed basically the whole year, and their leading receivers were Tyrell Williams and Dontrelle Inman. Those are decent complementary WRs, but they're not alphas by any stretch. In fact, Inman doesn't even have a job right now. Allen had a monster year last year, but Gordon himself was second on the team in receptions.

I think their line should take a step forward this year if they're healthy. Having Forrest Lamp and Dan Feeney both starting will be a big boost. I think he top 1700 total yards and hits 15 TDs total this year.

 

[Across The Field]

His overall merit doesn't belong in the top 10 and hasn't been since he came into the league. At this point he looks like another Wisconsin RB bust, especially considering where he was drafted.

That's one of the dumber statements you've made on here in a while, so I can only assume you're just trolling now.

 

[Clayton]

I think their line should take a step forward this year if they're healthy. Having Forrest Lamp and Dan Feeney both starting will be a big boost. I think he top 1700 total yards and hits 15 TDs total this year.

I think he could legitimately go either direction.

AFC West is also getting Bradley Chubb, Maurice Hurst and Derrick Nnadi so the run defense in the division might be getting better, too.

 

[Across The Field]

I think he could legitimately go either direction.

AFC West is also getting Bradley Chubb, Maurice Hurst and Derrick Nnadi so the run defense in the division might be getting better, too.

Very possible.

I took the thread as being one about how you feel the RBs stack up statistically this season. I wasn't necessarily saying he's one of the 4-5 most talented RBs, but I think he produces like one this year.

 

[ericd7633]

That's one of the dumber statements you've made on here in a while, so I can only assume you're just trolling now.

He hasn't lived up to where he was drafted. He's not a bust in the same way Ryan Leaf was, but I just don't think he's been good in his career.

 

[Across The Field]

He hasn't lived up to where he was drafted. He's not a bust in the same way Ryan Leaf was, but I just don't think he's been good in his career.

He's not a bust in the way that any Wisconsin RB has been and you know that. He's in his 3rd year coming off of 2 seasons where he averaged over 1,000 yards.

 

[flyerhawk]

1. Rashad Penny
2. Everyone else.

 

[ericd7633]

He's not a bust in the way that any Wisconsin RB has been and you know that. He's in his 3rd year coming off of 2 seasons where he averaged over 1,000 yards.

I never said he's been a bust comparable to other Wisconsin RB's, because those are some of the biggest busts of all-time. Relative to where he was drafted and his lack of production, he's been a bust. Having him in the top 5 is absurd. He's closer to 15 than 5.

 

[Across The Field]

I never said he's been a bust comparable to other Wisconsin RB's, because those are some of the biggest busts of all-time. Relative to where he was drafted and his lack of production, he's been a bust. Having him in the top 5 is absurd. He's closer to 15 than 5.

You absolutely said he's a bust comparable to other Wisconsin RBs. It's exactly what you said.

Also, no he's not a bust. He was chosen in the 2nd half of the first round, and he's averaging nearly 1,500 yards from scrimmage and 12 TDs over the last 2 seasons despite having one of the league's worst offensive lines. How many other RBs can say that?

 

[ericd7633]

You absolutely said he's a bust comparable to other Wisconsin RBs. It's exactly what you said.

Also, no he's not a bust. He was chosen in the 2nd half of the first round, and he's averaging nearly 1,500 yards from scrimmage and 12 TDs over the last 2 seasons despite having one of the league's worst offensive lines. How many other RBs can say that?

No I said he's another Wisconsin RB bust. I wasn't comparing him to anyone specific, just the fact he is in a long line of other Wisconsin RB's who have underperformed in the NFL.

And I'm trying to figure out how he was chosen in the 2nd half of the 1st round when he was selected 15th?

 

[Across The Field]

No I said he's another Wisconsin RB bust. I wasn't comparing him to anyone specific, just the fact he is in a long line of other Wisconsin RB's who have underperformed in the NFL.

And I'm trying to figure out how he was chosen in the 2nd half of the 1st round when he was selected 15th?

Your statement lumped him in with every other Wisconsin RB bust, even though he doesn't even remotely belong in that group. He's a talented young RB who has improved in each season he's been in the pros, and the arrow is pointing up.

I thought he was 18th, my bad there. I notice you can't give me a list of other RBs averaging 1500 yard from scrimmage and 12 total TDs over the last 2 years though.

 

[eaglesnut]

1. Darren Sproles
2. Jay Ajayi
3. Corey Clement
4. Nelson Agholor
5. Wendell Smallwood
6. Carson Wentz
7. Nick Foles
8. Donnel Pumphrey
9. Matt Jones
10. Mike Wallace

 

[ericd7633]

Your statement lumped him in with every other Wisconsin RB bust, even though he doesn't even remotely belong in that group. He's a talented young RB who has improved in each season he's been in the pros, and the arrow is pointing up.

I thought he was 18th, my bad there. I notice you can't give me a list of other RBs averaging 1500 yard from scrimmage and 12 total TDs over the last 2 years though.

My guess is there are alot of guys who averaged more than 4.6 yards per touch last season. I can give you a list if you really would like to see how far down Gordon would be.

 

[eaglesnut]

Honorable Mentions

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Rod Smith
Alfred Morris
Darren McFadden
Trey Williams
Jordan Chunn

 

[Across The Field]

My guess is there are alot of guys who averaged more than 4.6 yards per touch last season. I can give you a list if you really would like to see how far down Gordon would be.

Yet you still can't give me the list I asked about. That's what I thought.