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i Don’t hate him , just not sure I like his stances
 

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That's totally fair. The guy can be a source of irritation but I'm happy for him that he's starting to become a legit sports broadcaster. Lots of QBs that bomb like that never recover in the public eye
 

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I would agree with this
 

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I would agree with this

I am not sure I would. If you like Lamar Jackson as a QB, then sure you want us to pursue him. People always talk about his MVP season and that he is only 26. Well in 2019, he played incredibly But has he developed since then? I would say definitely not and I would say he has regressed dramatically. Add to that his contract squabbles to include wanting a fully guaranteed contract and possibly sitting out when he could have played and you have a player not worth signing, at least not at the value he believes he holds.

Asking for a trade when you are available for a trade already seems foolish when you are trying to figure out your value. Lamar believes he is worth a bunch of money while the league is apparently in disagreement.
 

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I am not sure I would. If you like Lamar Jackson as a QB, then sure you want us to pursue him. People always talk about his MVP season and that he is only 26. Well in 2019, he played incredibly But has he developed since then? I would say definitely not and I would say he has regressed dramatically. Add to that his contract squabbles to include wanting a fully guaranteed contract and possibly sitting out when he could have played and you have a player not worth signing, at least not at the value he believes he holds.

Asking for a trade when you are available for a trade already seems foolish when you are trying to figure out your value. Lamar believes he is worth a bunch of money while the league is apparently in disagreement.
Dude is dumber than a box of rocks
 

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Dude is dumber than a box of rocks

I don’t know about that but I do know he hasn’t been as good the last two seasons. Maybe the league has caught up with him a little bit in their game planning like they did RGME. Maybe he doesn’t put it in the work. Maybe he doesn’t see the field accurately. I just know the facts…and he has missed significant time each of the last two seasons.
 

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I don’t know about that but I do know he hasn’t been as good the last two seasons. Maybe the league has caught up with him a little bit in their game planning like they did RGME. Maybe he doesn’t put it in the work. Maybe he doesn’t see the field accurately. I just know the facts…and he has missed significant time each of the last two seasons.

Whats most disappointing to me is his deep ball accuracy. The drop off each year is true, but man, i want to give him some slack because his WR1 is a TE.
Hollywood Brown is above average but imo he's not a WR1. I'm starting to think the defense is good enough where they can move Lamar, get one of these QBs in the draft and improve the defense even more.
 

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Whats most disappointing to me is his deep ball accuracy. The drop off each year is true, but man, i want to give him some slack because his WR1 is a TE.
Hollywood Brown is above average but imo he's not a WR1. I'm starting to think the defense is good enough where they can move Lamar, get one of these QBs in the draft and improve the defense even more.

Mahomes’ WR1 is a TE too.
 

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Tyreek was gone.

Fair enough, although the starting WRs were more talented/productive in KC.
Bateman was injured early and the year before he came that WR room was a mess
 

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Fair enough, although the starting WRs were more talented/productive in KC.
Bateman was injured early and the year before he came that WR room was a mess

Perhaps, but JuJu and Scantling aren’t exactly good WRs. JuJu had a great season six years ago but not much since and Scantling couldn’t do anything with Rodgers.

Another way to look at this though…if you were running a team and didn’t have a lot of faith in your QB to get the ball to your WRs, would you pay a lot for WRs?
 

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this is what the pro Jackson crowd and dean don’t get . By My calculations about signing our draft picks , we don’t have the cash to do that so a LT , a Norwell and a , yes dean , a Roullier are on the chopping block .

this would mean center is in play in the draft

rounds 4-7 avg between 733,000 to 814,000

The top choice in the fifth round receives a four-year, $3.64 million deal with a salary of about $698,619 per year. Payscales for the fifth round vary from $669,444 to $698,619. The wages for players chosen in the sixth round range from $642,353 to $662,972. Last but not least, seventh-round selections earn a paycheck between $628,873 and $638,424.

We have 8 picks one in each round and 2 6th rounders
The 16th pick is scheduled to make 2.9 mil , we have 2.4 mil in cap space
The 47th makes1.4 mil
The 3rd rounder makes 888,000
4th 814,000
5th 669,000
2 6ths 1.2
7th 628,000
its about 7 mil needed to sign the class

so based on cap the draft priorities go to OG , C TE ,possibly OT. Then CB with LB bringing up the rear .
 

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Perhaps, but JuJu and Scantling aren’t exactly good WRs. JuJu had a great season six years ago but not much since and Scantling couldn’t do anything with Rodgers.

Another way to look at this though…if you were running a team and didn’t have a lot of faith in your QB to get the ball to your WRs, would you pay a lot for WRs?

No, no i wouldn't but i would've provided a little more than kick returners, lol. Not the same at all but Rogers seemed to face the same WR issues. Needing upgrades
 

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No, no i wouldn't but i would've provided a little more than kick returners, lol. Not the same at all but Rogers seemed to face the same WR issues. Needing upgrades

It is hard to upgrade the position when you have to pay the QB 50 mil. That is why Tyreek left.
 

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this is what the pro Jackson crowd and dean don’t get . By My calculations about signing our draft picks , we don’t have the cash to do that so a LT , a Norwell and a , yes dean , a Roullier are on the chopping block .

this would mean center is in play in the draft

rounds 4-7 avg between 733,000 to 814,000

The top choice in the fifth round receives a four-year, $3.64 million deal with a salary of about $698,619 per year. Payscales for the fifth round vary from $669,444 to $698,619. The wages for players chosen in the sixth round range from $642,353 to $662,972. Last but not least, seventh-round selections earn a paycheck between $628,873 and $638,424.

We have 8 picks one in each round and 2 6th rounders
The 16th pick is scheduled to make 2.9 mil , we have 2.4 mil in cap space
The 47th makes1.4 mil
The 3rd rounder makes 888,000
4th 814,000
5th 669,000
2 6ths 1.2
7th 628,000
its about 7 mil needed to sign the class

so based on cap the draft priorities go to OG , C TE ,possibly OT. Then CB with LB bringing up the rear .

i get that we wouldn't get Jackson. AS far a Roullier he could restructure or Thomas could be cut to sign the draft picks. IF they wanted to cut Roullier it would have already done when the Gates signing went down. Is it possible we could draft and center then cut Roullier? Yes but I would rather give Howell Roullier than a rookie center. Roullier is still up in the air its not cut and dry as of now. I agree Thomas and Norwell should be gone.
 
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