can we beat a good team ?

[tedman2012]

i like our chances when we get to the end of the month . we should have a rock solid bp .

 

[mikeytheman247]

Can't beat a good pitcher that's for sure.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Syndegaard has struggled, could be wearing down......I think the O's have a good shot today

 

[mikeytheman247]

Syndegaard has struggled, could be wearing down......I think the O's have a good shot today

Hope so. Our offense has been hit or miss all season. However, lately they have been hitting well at home. Hopefully, Ubaldo has his A game tonight.

 

[tedman2012]

uuuu has a weak arm that run scored on a double should've been an out . hey schoop is allowed 1 bad day .

 

[hattersgonnahate]

Outlandish statement of the day: This team might better with Joseph as the starting catcher... from the standpoint of ERA.

"Wait... I thought that Catcher's ERA is a meaningless stat."

... okay, but what if we group the data points by individual pitchers? Let's see:

• Chen: 3.19 ERA / 1.17 WHIP / 0.732 OPS with Joseph catching;
  3.98 ERA / 1.29 WHIP / 0.741 OPS with Wieters catching
  
  
• Gausman: 3.75 ERA / 1.25 WHIP / 0.707 OPS against with Joseph catching;
  5.93 ERA / 1.42 WHIP / 0.806 OPS with Wieters catching
  
  
• Gonzalez: 3.26 ERA / 1.21 WHIP / 0.699 OPS with Joseph catching;
  3.53 ERA / 1.25 WHIP / 0.727 OPS with Wieters catching
  
  
• Jimenez: 2.81 ERA / 1.24 WHIP / 0.660 OPS with Joseph catching;
  7.14 ERA / 1.66 WHIP / 0.859 OPS with Wieters catching
  
  
• Norris: 4.79 ERA / 1.34 WHIP / 0.799 OPS with Joseph catching;
  4.91 ERA / 1.48 WHIP / 0.817 OPS with Wieters catching
  
  
• Tillman: 3.94 ERA / 1.35 WHIP / 0.710 OPS with Joseph catching;
  3.96 ERA / 1.29 WHIP / 0.740 OPS with Wieters catching

Conclusion: It seems that having Joseph behind the plate instead of Wieters is better for the performance of Orioles starters since 2014. Of course, whether this difference can be attributed to the catcher's game-calling and defense is debatable... but if there's a causal effect, it seems that the possibility of losing Wieters to free agency would be tolerable.

 

[all4ripken]

Fuck no, not when they can't score with the bases loaded and no outs....what a fucking joke.

 

[all4ripken]

Outlandish statement of the day: This team might better with Joseph as the starting catcher... from the standpoint of ERA.

"Wait... I thought that Catcher's ERA is a meaningless stat."

... okay, but what if we group the data points by individual pitchers? Let's see:

• Chen: 3.19 ERA / 1.17 WHIP / 0.732 OPS with Joseph catching;
  3.98 ERA / 1.29 WHIP / 0.741 OPS with Wieters catching
  
  
• Gausman: 3.75 ERA / 1.25 WHIP / 0.707 OPS against with Joseph catching;
  5.93 ERA / 1.42 WHIP / 0.806 OPS with Wieters catching
  
  
• Gonzalez: 3.26 ERA / 1.21 WHIP / 0.699 OPS with Joseph catching;
  3.53 ERA / 1.25 WHIP / 0.727 OPS with Wieters catching
  
  
• Jimenez: 2.81 ERA / 1.24 WHIP / 0.660 OPS with Joseph catching;
  7.14 ERA / 1.66 WHIP / 0.859 OPS with Wieters catching
  
• Norris: 4.79 ERA / 1.34 WHIP / 0.799 OPS with Joseph catching;
  4.91 ERA / 1.48 WHIP / 0.817 OPS with Wieters catching
  
  
• Tillman: 3.94 ERA / 1.35 WHIP / 0.710 OPS with Joseph catching;
  3.96 ERA / 1.29 WHIP / 0.740 OPS with Wieters catching

Conclusion: It seems that having Joseph behind the plate instead of Wieters is better for the performance of Orioles starters since 2014. Of course, whether this difference can be attributed to the catcher's game-calling and defense is debatable... but if there's a causal effect, it seems that the possibility of losing Wieters to free agency would be tolerable.

Honestly, I have no problem with them letting Weiters walk, good riddance. They probably won't be able to (or just won't) afford Chen, as he'll get grossly overpaid. But my gut says they resign Davis and Parra.

 

[jeffro151]

Hardy needs a DL stint. His bat is as dead as Flaherty's.

 

[jeffro151]

And Ubaldo gives the run right back.

 

[hattersgonnahate]

Hardy needs a DL stint. His bat is as dead as Flaherty's.

Just checked... we're talking about 0.584 OPS before the all-star break and 0.575 OPS afterward (compare this to the MLB average for shortstops: 0.678 OPS). This is entering "bad season" territory; as much as I hate to say this, the 3-year extension for Hardy might turn out to be a bad contract...

Honestly, I have no problem with them letting Weiters walk, good riddance. They probably won't be able to (or just won't) afford Chen, as he'll get grossly overpaid. But my gut says they resign Davis and Parra.

Now put the two issues together: Given the benefit of hindsight, perhaps the Orioles organization should have traded Wieters for a shortstop at the trade deadline so that they could actually afford to re-sign Chen and/or Davis while addressing the new weakness at SS?

 

[all4ripken]

And Ubaldo gives the run right back.

And again!! LOL, but this time it was Givens.

 

[all4ripken]

Hardy needs a DL stint. His bat is as dead as Flaherty's.

Flaherty's bat isn't dead, it's non-existent. What is he, 0 for his last 33?

 

[all4ripken]

Holy heck, Urruita!!!

 

[tedman2012]

it's funny to see talk of us needing a shortstop when we already have 2 in the fold with schoop and manny . i do remember me saying caleb was better with the pitchers than matt . caleb frames pitches and is more of a cheerleader than matt and a better arm . so we need to find a 2nd baseman or 3rd baseman if hardy goes . let's not forget sisco is on fire at bowie C . we could sign davis for third and bring up oh trey mancini for first . walker is also a good hitter at first maybe we need to see if either of them could play third ?

 

[hattersgonnahate]

We could sign davis for third and bring up oh trey mancini for first. walker is also a good hitter at first maybe we need to see if either of them could play third ?

I wouldn't mind eventually moving Machado to SS as long as his knees can handle that position... but I'd be less comfortable about moving Davis to 3B given his track record.

As for Walker and Mancini... looks like Walker has only played one game at 3B, while Mancini has never played 3B in the minors.

 

[tedman2012]

I wouldn't mind eventually moving Machado to SS as long as his knees can handle that position... but I'd be less comfortable about moving Davis to 3B given his track record.

As for Walker and Mancini... looks like Walker has only played one game at 3B, while Mancini has never played 3B in the minors.

manny mo tells you it doesn't really matter what they have done in the past . brandon snyder is hitting maybe he could play 3rd ?

 

[tedman2012]

one that could move and play third is caleb . have clev and sisco catch btw sisco hit his 5 th homer tonight and still close to .400 at aa 20 yo

 

[hattersgonnahate]

Hmmm, looks like we might have to find a new starter before even thinking about what to do with SS for the long term? (At this rate, we could be talking about 3 consecutive months of >5 ERA for Gonzalez.)

 

[mikeytheman247]

Gonzo needs to move to pen or DL now. TJ going back down?