Broncos' Draft

[DownSetHutch]

The NFL Draft is coming up in about 3 weeks, and I was wondering who everyone wants the Broncos to draft. I have started doing some research on players, and I have found a few so far that look like good prospects for us. I haven't gotten past the first round of talent yet, but here are several players I could see/would like to see us take with our first pick: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama; Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri; Stephon Tuitt, DE/DT, Notre Dame; Dee Ford, DE, Auburn; Derek Carr, QB, Fresno St.; Kyle Fuller, CB, Va. Tech; Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA; Brandin Cooks, WR, Ore. St.; Darqueze Dennard, CB, Mich. St.

I really hope we go defense with our first pick, and in particular I would love to see us move up and grab Mosley. I have seen one mock draft that had him falling to us at 31, but that's a pipe dream. If he is still on the board at 15, we would do well to try to trade up and snag him.

Thoughts?

 

[WalkerBoh]

The NFL Draft is coming up in about 3 weeks, and I was wondering who everyone wants the Broncos to draft. I have started doing some research on players, and I have found a few so far that look like good prospects for us. I haven't gotten past the first round of talent yet, but here are several players I could see/would like to see us take with our first pick: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama; Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri; Stephon Tuitt, DE/DT, Notre Dame; Dee Ford, DE, Auburn; Derek Carr, QB, Fresno St.; Kyle Fuller, CB, Va. Tech; Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA; Brandin Cooks, WR, Ore. St.; Darqueze Dennard, CB, Mich. St.

I really hope we go defense with our first pick, and in particular I would love to see us move up and grab Mosley. I have seen one mock draft that had him falling to us at 31, but that's a pipe dream. If he is still on the board at 15, we would do well to try to trade up and snag him.

Thoughts?

Well, trading up to 15 would probably be another pipe dream. Realistically, the highest Denver could hope to achieve is a move up to 19, unless they get a higher pick somewhere else. To get to 15 using just draft picks, Denver would need to offer their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and maybe even their 6th round pick to get up to 15.

That said, I wouldn't mind Shazier at #31. Dennard looks good if he falls far enough. Otherwise, BPA. I'd be surprised to see them fo DE, especially after acquiring Ware and having Q. Smith waiting in the wings. I'm also not a fan of O-line in the 1st round unless he's an absolute, can't-go-wrong stud. Not sure an OG would qualify.

 

[cdumler7]

The NFL Draft is coming up in about 3 weeks, and I was wondering who everyone wants the Broncos to draft. I have started doing some research on players, and I have found a few so far that look like good prospects for us. I haven't gotten past the first round of talent yet, but here are several players I could see/would like to see us take with our first pick: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama; Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri; Stephon Tuitt, DE/DT, Notre Dame; Dee Ford, DE, Auburn; Derek Carr, QB, Fresno St.; Kyle Fuller, CB, Va. Tech; Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA; Brandin Cooks, WR, Ore. St.; Darqueze Dennard, CB, Mich. St.

I really hope we go defense with our first pick, and in particular I would love to see us move up and grab Mosley. I have seen one mock draft that had him falling to us at 31, but that's a pipe dream. If he is still on the board at 15, we would do well to try to trade up and snag him.

Thoughts?

I like some of your prospects, others I find ok but could understand why they took them, then others I am thinking WTF are you thinking?

Mosley I am fine with. Not a big fan of trading up for him as I just don't see that can't miss prospect in him. Especially have to remember Alabama players seem to be drafted earlier than the actual value because they are surrounded by so much talent some of their weaknesses get covered up. They also struggle with injuries in the pros as they get run into the ground at Alabama. Mosley already has some major red flags about injuries so buyer beware. He falls into my if he is there at 31 I wouldn't mind taking him but trading up for him (depending what we give up) I might be a bit upset.

Ealy I go back and forth on. Decent all-around DE. Not an outstanding pass rusher and not an outstanding run stuffer but just good at everything. Would be a solid pick.

Tuitt reminds me too much of Wolfe without the motor. He might be a bit more physically gifted than Wolfe but his best spot would be where we have Wolfe and I just can't see the team benching a high pick for a new guy already. Especially the team is expecting Wolfe to be a team leader this year.

Dee Ford I think most know my feelings towards this guy on here. Like the guy more than most. Would love to get him but realize there are other positions of greater need.

Derek Carr is my WTF guy on your list. His tape is up and down big time. Struggles with the deep throws. Struggled in the bigger games of his career. Average arm strength. I can only see this one if we trade Osweiler on draft day and at least get a high 2nd round pick for him. Otherwise this is just a waste of a pick and would pretty much take out 2 of our picks from the last 2 drafts.

Fuller/Dennard--going to bunch these two together because if we got either of these guys I think I would drive down to the Broncos facilities when they got back from the draft and have a beer with John Elway telling him good work you deserve a beer.

Filo I could be happy with as I think he will be a good 5-year starter for us. Very solid guy all around. Doesn't bring about a ton of excitement as guards usually don't but hey protecting Manning was our biggest problem in the Super Bowl.

 

[MrDoc420]

If Fuller or Shozier are still around at #31, I'd be happy with either. I'd love if Mosley or Ford were there, but that ain't happenin'.

cd.....just saw a mock with us taking Bridgewater at #31. That'd be my WTF pick of all mocks so far

 

[xBxtxDx]

I am actually hoping they go BPA the entire draft. I do not care what they grab, just as long as it is BPA. The team still has money to grab someone if they need it in FA that I am not worried. Oh and I am hoping that if Shazier is not their at 31 or not the BPA, that Denver introduces the Big Dime package.

BtD

 

[cdumler7]

If Fuller or Shozier are still around at #31, I'd be happy with either. I'd love if Mosley or Ford were there, but that ain't happenin'.

cd.....just saw a mock with us taking Bridgewater at #31. That'd be my WTF pick of all mocks so far

It just amazes me how people can come up with this crap. We used a premium pick on a quarterback a couple of years ago to develop and hopefully take over for when Manning retires plus of course then having the MVP of the league at the position. So to me the idea of a quarterback is just about the biggest waste of a pick that there is at least in the 1st. I mean unless Elway just has some guy fall in the 1st that he just sees a future HOF type guy in then no way. Right now Bortles is probably the only guy in the 1st that I could be half way ok with. I actually see quite a bit of John Elway in him with his clutch play. That ain't happenin though.

Right now I honestly have no clue where the Broncos are going for the 1st round. There are so many different directions they could go and it will truly depend who is available at that point. I could see all of the top 5 Cornerbacks off the board by our pick making it quite a reach for us at 31 to go with the 6th guy. I think right now it would be a shorter list to go with the positions that we almost certainly will not take compared to that of positions we could take. With having a loaded team this year we do have the advantage of not needing to reach and not really needing a rookie to start at any position if we don't want to have them. Just like last year we really didn't need a rookie to start. Williams eventually had to because of injuries but he did just fine.

 

[MrDoc420]

Yah...that mock that had us taking Bridgewater at #31 made me laugh. The whole entire thing was f'd up IMO. I was wondering if dude just threw it out there to stir up some shit.

No way we should even sniff near QB's at all in this draft. There is absolutely no need.

 

[DownSetHutch]

CD, I have to agree with you on not knowing which way the Broncos will go in the draft. That's why I threw out several different players at different positions.

I think our biggest need is MLB, and CJ Mosley is widely considered the best one in this draft. He has excellent coverage skills, is good on blitzes, and is solid against the run. IMO he is the new prototypical MLB. I know this position is considered less important than it used to be, but he would be a HUGE addition to our defense. So I'll just agree to disagree with anyone who doesn't see his value.

As for Derek Carr, I knew that a QB wouldn't be a popular choice for our first pick this year, and in particular him. Many fans on this forum seem to either think that we have our next starting QB on the roster already, or that Elway & Co. think that we have our next QB on the roster already. They may in fact think this, and many here are more in the know about what the coaching staff might be thinking than I am, but I just haven't seen enough from our backup QBs to feel confident about them myself. And the competition for Peyton Manning's successor might be going on for another two years (if we're lucky). So I guess we will find out come draft time what the coaching staff thinks of our QB prospects. Whether or not we draft a QB will pretty much say it all.

As for the DE spot, I like Ealy because he could be a 3-down classic DE. He is big enough that he won't get ran over on running downs and has enough pass rush ability that he won't be a liability on passing downs. I like these types of versatile DEs, as opposed to specialists who need to come out on certain downs. Stephon Tuitt would bring the value of having more D-line depth and versatility. He can play DE or DT, much like Wolfe. I think Del Rio would be able to use his abilities to do more stunts with the front four.

We could definitely use some more depth at CB. Fortunately, there seems to be plenty of talent in the first three rounds of this draft. I will be surprised if we don't draft one with our first three picks.

One thing I am fairly certain of - this is Del Rio's draft. We need to bolster that defense, and I think we will. Its time to bring back the Orange Crush.

 

[cdumler7]

I like CJ Mosley quite a bit and would love to see him drop to us. He isn't my favorite prospect in this draft even for the MLB position but I do think he would be a fine addition to this defense. You are right the day of the big hitting run stuffing MLB is no longer a need in today's NFL. If you can find a very good coverage linebacker you are set as a team. So in that regard I only think there are maybe 3-4 linebackers that can fit that bill that can play inside.


The reason I say quarterback is a crazy idea is Elway has fielded calls from last I knew possibly 5-10 teams wanting to know what it would take to get Osweiler. Elway has turned every single one of them down. To me that is a big vote in confidence towards what they think of Osweiler and what he brings to the table. Now given we have no clue if teams were low-balling us on offers kind of thing and maybe Elway is going to wait till closer to the draft or actual draft day to do something like that. If he does then yeah I have no problem with us taking a quarterback even with our 1st round pick. Again if Elway sees a guy that is going to be that next great quarterback then you have to draft that player especially at the end of round one it would be rare to find that kind of talent. To me Bortles is the only guy that I could see fitting that type of player. He is still very raw but he has the instincts for the game that are just impressive especially when the pressure is turned up.


DE spot the problem is Ealy and Tuitt is neither are going to start in the next 3 years in my opinion unless there is injury. I doubt Ealy would beat out Ware and I doubt Tuitt could beat out Wolfe (unless Wolfe hasn't recovered). Yes they both add depth which is good on the line but I prefer guys who are back ups that maybe have a bit more for the pass rush department. I just think of the Super Bowl where we had a ton of run-stuffing DE's on the roster but all of our pass rushers except Phillips were injured so they could just roll protection his way and do just fine. That is why I like Dee Ford more than a lot of these other guys because he brings that speed off the edge.


CB--See to me I think we need more than depth. We need a starting quality CB. In today's NFL nickel corner is more of a starter than a MLB in my opinion. Right now we have Talib (injury prone), Harris (torn ACL no idea when he will be 100%), and Webster (2nd year guy that was known coming in to be a big project). This is why I am hoping one of those top Corners falls to us. If they don't then that 2nd round pick because that much more important to try and get one.

 

[Broncosr0k]

Well, I hope my sub-conscious is not correct. I had a dream last night that Rd 1 was a RB and Rd 2 was a CB and for some reason that was all we drafted.

 

[cdumler7]

Broncosr0k that would be just about my worst nightmare.

 

[MrDoc420]

LOL...I'd have to agree.

 

[WalkerBoh]

Broncosr0k that would be just about my worst nightmare.

Ahhhh..... but what if we drafted the next Champ Bailey and next Walter Payton? (Since we ARE talking dreams here).

 

[HuskerinBig10]

You know, you can read some of the other threads right her on the Broncos page on the draft for more perspective.

 

[Broncosr0k]

The more I read on the ILB prospects the more I think we are going Mosley or Shazier in the first. I think we trade up if they fall but I doubt we jump up too far. If those two are unavailable I think we go BPA for the next few rounds.

Borland, Skov, and many of the other LBs are too much of thumpers and not what the team needs in the middle of the D.

 

[randymon]

The more I read on the ILB prospects the more I think we are going Mosley or Shazier in the first. I think we trade up if they fall but I doubt we jump up too far. If those two are unavailable I think we go BPA for the next few rounds.

Borland, Skov, and many of the other LBs are too much of thumpers and not what the team needs in the middle of the D.

Yeah if those two are gone and with the MLB playing only about 30% of snaps, it certainly wouldn`t hurt to have a badass thumper with attitude either. Mosley and Shazier are prob the only two Lbs that are sideline to sideline guys with decent coverage skills ( Shazier is the best between the two) go ahead and grab a thumper in 2nd or 3rd. More attitude at any position is fine by me especially if they thump as well

 

[Broncosr0k]

Yeah if those two are gone and with the MLB playing only about 30% of snaps, it certainly wouldn`t hurt to have a badass thumper with attitude either. Mosley and Shazier are prob the only two Lbs that are sideline to sideline guys with decent coverage skills ( Shazier is the best between the two) go ahead and grab a thumper in 2nd or 3rd. More attitude at any position is fine by me especially if they thump as well

I was meaning that if we don't get Shazier or Mosley we don't draft an ILB until the 5-7 rounds. Thumpers are a dime a dozen. We have one already in Irving. We got rid of one in Mays. Elway and company are not looking for another thumper. It would be silly to spend a second round pick on Borland in hopes he will greatly improve the defense in the first 2 downs over Irving. I will take a WR, DB, DE, DT, OL over Borland or Skov at this point.

 

[cdumler7]

A few guys by round that I would look at for the MLB later in the draft are...


Jordan Tripp--Played mostly OLB for Montana but could step inside and has a body to put some more weight on. Has the height and speed to run with any TE down the field. Also has the coverage experience (probably only linebacker in the entire draft that actually played press-coverage during this past season). Considers himself the best all-around linebacker in this draft and I think he could prove to be just that...(3rd or 4th round prospect)


Max Bullough--Leader in the middle for one of the best defenses in the nation. Was the heart and soul of the team till he was suspended before his last game. Not the best in coverage but could be a very good leader and could learn to become a 3-down type guy (5th or 6th round prospect)


Avery Williamson--One of my personal favorites as he is another Kentucky guy and well they haven't failed us yet. Is a true MLB though and is just always around the football. Decent in coverage (7th round guy)