Best 12 conference in CBB the breakdown

[rmilia1]

Tier 1
1. Big 12- 10-22 vs top 25, 15-14 vs 26-50, 24-10 vs 51-100, 38-4 vs 101-200, 37-1 vs 201+
2. Big 10- 13-30 vs top 25, 8-7 vs 26-50, 33-17 vs 51-100, 40-7 vs 101-200, 60-1 vs 201+

Tier 2
3. Pac 12- 4-19 vs top 25, 16-16 vs 26-50, 26-21 vs 51-100, 56-7 vs 101-200, 45-1 vs 201+
4. Big East- 6-24 vs top 25, 8-17 vs 26-50, 35-14 vs 51-100, 30-3 vs 101-200, 44-3 vs 201+
5. ACC- 12-34 vs top 25, 11-20 vs 26-50, 36-23 vs 51-100, 46-13 vs 101-200, 71-2 vs 201+

Tier 3
6. SEC- 4-16 vs top 25, 11-21 vs 26-50, 20-23 vs 51-100, 50-18 vs 101-200, 66-2 vs 201+
7. American- 4-16 vs top 25, 9-16 vs 26-50, 10-7 vs 51-100, 37-16 vs 101-200, 53-5 vs 201+
8. A10- 3-20 vs top 25, 6-13 vs 26-50, 23-25 vs 51-100, 49-12 vs 101-200, 70-7 vs 201+

Tier 4
9. MWC- 3-15 vs top 25, 1-12 vs 26-50, 15-16 vs 51-100, 43-26 vs 101-200, 43-6 vs 201+

Tier 5
10. WCC- 0-6 vs top 25, 3-12 vs 26-50, 13-19 vs 51-100, 57-32 vs 101-200, 34-7 vs 201+
11. MVC- 1-13 vs top 25, 2-3 vs 26-50, 11-20 vs 51-100, 37-25 vs 101-200, 43-18 vs 201+

Tier 6
12. MAC- 0-12 vs top 25, 2-7 vs 26-50, 8-21 vs 51-100, 34-33 vs 101-200, 52-10 vs 201+

Did all 32 leagues over the last 24 hours ( updated completely ) but itll take too long to do all 32 and these are the best 12. Thoughts??? Surprises??

 

[ericd7633]

Not surprised Big 10 and Big 12 are clearly the two best conferences this year. Big 10 may be a little better at the top, Big 12 may be a little deeper. Both great conferences this year.

 

[ericd7633]

I'd also say the ACC is a little better than the Big East this year.

 

[rmilia1]

I'd also say the ACC is a little better than the Big East this year.

They were extremely close in my rating system but the BE got the nod by virtue of having a slightly better record vs the top 100 overall and a substantially better record vs 101-200. The B10 and B12 were separated by .1 of a point. It was that close.

 

[SteelersPride]

do you do this all on ur own? or do u get stats somewhere, because well you dig deep

 

[mr.hockey4242]

I think the Big12 is overrated. I think Big10 is definitely better.

Kansas is the only Big12 team I think is truly a threat.

 

[rmilia1]

do you do this all on ur own? or do u get stats somewhere, because well you dig deep

I use the RPI sites to gather all the info and then do each team on its own and cross correlate it with their opponents to get records for all leagues. Its tough because games are going on and its tough to update but pretty cool. AND Ive won my March Madness pool 8 of the last 9 years so its worth it LOL

 

[rmilia1]

I think the Big12 is overrated. I think Big10 is definitely better.

Kansas is the only Big12 team I think is truly a threat.

If you look at the top of each league ( ie the top 4 teams ) the B10 scores higher but overall the B12 scores slightly better. Like I said the 2 are separated by.1 point so if you wanted to say you favored the B10 Id certainly have no issue with that. Hell if I was forced to choose Id probably go B10 too even with all the data in place.

 

[SteelersPride]

Hey i appreciate the info, was just gonna say its good stuff

was jsut gonna say your gonna be my march madness man

ive won 2 of the past 5 and come in 2nd once and 3rd once.......

not bad for 70+ people............

so i may need your help

 

[mr.hockey4242]

If you look at the top of each league ( ie the top 4 teams ) the B10 scores higher but overall the B12 scores slightly better. Like I said the 2 are separated by.1 point so if you wanted to say you favored the B10 Id certainly have no issue with that. Hell if I was forced to choose Id probably go B10 too even with all the data in place.

Yeah it's one of those that can go either way but since I both are going to have there fair share into the tourney I like to look at which batch of tourney caliber teams is better

And I see the Big10's top 6 as being quite a bit superior(to this point).

 

[rmilia1]

Hey i appreciate the info, was just gonna say its good stuff

was jsut gonna say your gonna be my march madness man

ive won 2 of the past 5 and come in 2nd once and 3rd once.......

not bad for 70+ people............

so i may need your help

One of the most sure fire ways to pick teams to make deep runs are to look at 5 factors. First in my mind is offensive efficiency, some people favor defensive efficiency but in tourney play the game tends to open up more due to refs calling the game closer and pace of play picking up ( tourney games average almost 7 ppg more than regular season games combined over the last 10 years ). 9 of the last 10 champs have been top 20 in offensive efficiency. Defensive efficiency is second in my book, 8 of the last 10 champs have been top 20 in that stat. Rebounding is 3rd with a special emphasis on offensive rebounding as they create second and sometime 3rd chances, turnovers PER POSSESSION are 4th, simply looking at turnovers is skewed as a team that averages 55 possessions and 12 turnovers is actually worse at protecting the ball than a team that averages 73 possessions and turns it over 14 times, last is guard play. Every champion for as long as I can remember has had great guard play whether it be from a PG ( preferred ), a SG ( still OK) or the BEST is a SG that can take over the PG duties in the last 5-6 minutes and create shots for himself and his teammates. There are sites that track the first 4 metrics and if you cross comapare all teams in the top 20 you will typically find 4-6 teams that rank in the top 20 in all 4 categories. Those teams generally always make runs to at LEAST the elite 8. Then if you look at those teams guard you can typically pick your final 4 from that group.

 

[SteelersPride]

One of the most sure fire ways to pick teams to make deep runs are to look at 5 factors. First in my mind is offensive efficiency, some people favor defensive efficiency but in tourney play the game tends to open up more due to refs calling the game closer and pace of play picking up ( tourney games average almost 7 ppg more than regular season games combined over the last 10 years ). 9 of the last 10 champs have been top 20 in offensive efficiency. Defensive efficiency is second in my book, 8 of the last 10 champs have been top 20 in that stat. Rebounding is 3rd with a special emphasis on offensive rebounding as they create second and sometime 3rd chances, turnovers PER POSSESSION are 4th, simply looking at turnovers is skewed as a team that averages 55 possessions and 12 turnovers is actually worse at protecting the ball than a team that averages 73 possessions and turns it over 14 times, last is guard play. Every champion for as long as I can remember has had great guard play whether it be from a PG ( preferred ), a SG ( still OK) or the BEST is a SG that can take over the PG duties in the last 5-6 minutes and create shots for himself and his teammates. There are sites that track the first 4 metrics and if you cross comapare all teams in the top 20 you will typically find 4-6 teams that rank in the top 20 in all 4 categories. Those teams generally always make runs to at LEAST the elite 8. Then if you look at those teams guard you can typically pick your final 4 from that group.

remember to re-tell me this at tourney time

curious........right now whose your elite 8, 4, 2 and champ?

 

[jonvi]

Hey i appreciate the info, was just gonna say its good stuff

was jsut gonna say your gonna be my march madness man

ive won 2 of the past 5 and come in 2nd once and 3rd once.......

not bad for 70+ people............

so i may need your help

When SU comes out of that 5th place conference and ruins your day....lol you will learn charts are for geeeeeeeks.

ball games are won on the court. Anotherasswhoopininbound.

 

[rmilia1]

remember to re-tell me this at tourney time

curious........right now whose your elite 8, 4, 2 and champ?

Using my criteria there are 4 teams who rank in the top 20 in 3 of the 4 categories ( no team is top 20 in all 4 which explains why we dont have a "dominating" team in CBB this year IMO ). The 4 teams that rank in the top 20 in 3 of the 4 categories are Syracuse, Louisville, Iowa and OK State. Zona, Kentucky, Wisconsin, Creighton, Michigan State, Duke, Pitt and Iowa State rank in the top 20 in 2 of the 4 cateories. If you look at talented guard play Id tend to lean towards Zona, Michigan State, Iowa State and Kentucky as my other 4 so I guess right now my Elite 8 would be Cuse, Louisville, Iowa, OK State, Zona, ISU, MSU and Kentucky with a Final 4 of Cuse, OK State, Iowa and Louisville. Highest 2 ranked teams in the 3 categories are Iowa and Syracuse with Syracuse ranking highest overall. SO as of RIGHT NOW that would be the picks but all that is going to change Im sure by seasons end.

 

[rmilia1]

When SU comes out of that 5th place conference and ruins your day....lol you will learn charts are for geeeeeeeks.

ball games are won on the court. Anotherasswhoopininbound.

LOL, Jonvi. You may want to rethink that after my last post

 

[SteelersPride]

thanks bud

 

[SteelersPride]

foot meet mouth.........i mean you just said you have cuse winning right now........i think

 

[rmilia1]

foot meet mouth.........i mean you just said you have cuse winning right now........i think

Yep. He was one post too early LOL

 

[jonvi]

LOL, Jonvi. You may want to rethink that after my last post

thanks bud

foot meet mouth.........i mean you just said you have cuse winning right now........i think

Yep. He was one post too early LOL

You guys done having your love affair. holy shit. what that's got to do with SU's the juice.

 

[rmilia1]

You guys done having your love affair. holy shit. what that's got to do with SU's the juice.

Awwww, Jonvi I still love you the most so its OK. LOL. Cuse is the juice.... For now ( evil laugh emoticon )