B12 expansion

[Wild Turkey]

A&M will hate Texas regardless, but I've just never heard about Missouri fans complaining about Texas and we have Colorado people on the radio all the time talking and I've never heard them once mention Texas once they came to the Pac12..maybe it's a message board thing, was just curious.

When Mizzouri left the Big 12 and came to the SEC the fans blistered Texas and were pissed but they do seem to have moved on. The truth about Missouri is they have some really big issues and don't have time to worry about Texas:

1. Replaced their head coach
2. Fired their president
3. Enrollment is down due to the protest to the point they are closing dorms
4. It's estimated they will lose 30 million in revenue due to the issues on campus

Missouri is fucked up big time.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Husker fan- His team cant beat Texas on the field, so dammit! They're going to win somewhere... athletic academia!

Plus he shows a list comparing Texas to Memphis, Nevada Reno and OU.

Does he understand that Texas is the number one public university in the country? That the level of academics, even in the shitty easy classes, has to be higher than those other illustrious institutions? No, of course not. Because it does not fit his view.

Good Lord, why in the hell did you let me get caught up in this nonsense. I'm not going to say another word about it...go ahead and hammer Texas all you want.

Know what it shows the entire world? That you are a poor loser.

I am not talking about schools, I am talking about Athlete Students at University of Texas and other schools. Athlete Students are given preferential treatment at all schools.

The worst you can score on the SAT is a 200. Texas football players had scores of 210, 220, 270, 290, 260, 290, 290. heck, THREE players scored 200!!! still admitted. Link is below.

Here you go, some links

2008 Athletes at schools score far below their classmates
Athletes Show Huge Gaps in SAT Scores

2009
Report: Admissions exemptions benefit athletes

But the school also acknowledged in its NCAA report that athletic recruits overall are less prepared. At Texas, the average SAT score for a freshman football player from 2003 to 2005 was 945 -- or 320 points lower than the typical first-year student's score on the entrance exam.

2014
CNN: Some college athletes play like adults, read like 5th-graders - CNN.com

This article talks bad about North Carolina. But has the interesting tidbit on Oklahoma.

In fact, CNN only found one person in addition to Willingham who has ever collected data on the topic. University of Oklahoma professor Gerald Gurney found that about 10% of revenue-sport athletes there were reading below a fourth-grade level.

Then the ridiculousness

Many student-athletes scored in the 200s and 300s on the SAT critical reading test -- a threshold that experts told us was an elementary reading level and too low for college classes. The lowest score possible on that part of the SAT is 200, and the national average is 500.
On the ACT, we found some students scoring in the single digits, when the highest possible score is 36 and the national average is 20. In most cases, the team average ACT reading score was in the high teens.

2014 this one is interactive
CNN Analysis: Some college athletes play like adults, read like fifth-graders

University of Texas


According to several academic experts, the threshold for being college literate is a score of 400 on the SAT critical reading or writing test. On the ACT, that threshold is 16.

Many athletes took more than one test and if they did, they were only counted if they scored below the threshold on both.

Football

-- 52/314 scored at or below the threshold on all tests taken.

Men's basketball

-- 8/38 scored at or below the threshold on all tests taken.

Women's basketball

-- 5/36 scored at or below the threshold on all tests taken.

In total, that's 16.75% of athletes playing those three sports.

CNN also compared the average athlete score to the average student admitted to the university.

The average SAT reading and writing score of the athletes, provided to CNN, was 477, and the average ACT English and Reading score was 19.

According to Collegedata.com, the average freshman admitted to Texas scores a 606 on the SAT critical reading test, and a 28 on the ACT composite.

here is the actual data from the University of Texas

University of Texas data

One Texas football player had ACT scores of SIX ACT reading SEVEN in ACT writing.

10 Other Texas football players had score of TEN or less on the ACT.

The worst you can score on the SAT is a 200. Texas football players had scores of 210, 220, 270, 290, 260, 290, 290. heck, THREE players scored 200!!! still admitted.




University of Texas response from a conversation with Brian Davis, associate athletic director for football student services, "on paper, a student who shouldn't be at an academic institution". Wait did he just say some of these athlete students shouldn't be at an academic Institution?

here is a good one from the UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, it is nearly ten years old, the more things change, the more things stay the same.

Office of the General Faculty Home Page

But the real tragedy for this University of Texas Football team is that only 40 percent of its players, and only 27 percent of its black players, will graduate. Texas' football players put the school on the national stage. And what do they get in return? Besides the precious few that will make it to the NFL, most will leave school without a degree and with few career prospects.

Here is a spotlight on UT’s failure to ‘emphasize academics’ to a nationally coveted recruit. He chose OU. The story also reported that said recruit attended a party held by UT boosters during OU-UT game weekend that featured copious drugs, alcohol and ‘freaky sex’. This obviously was not an official UT-sponsored event, but we surely bear some responsibility for creating this kind of tailgating and ‘Tailhook’ mentality. And, like it or not, this is the picture of UT that is out there, thanks to our big-time sports program.

at UT Austin the average SAT 2003-2005
for all male students was 1265
for male athletes 1029 (236-point diff.)
for football 948 (317-point diff.) (3.20 GPA)
for male basketball 797 (468-point diff.) (3.23 GPA).

 

[nddulac]

I am not talking about schools, ...

University of Nebraska


Nebraska denied our requests, saying it does not keep records, or track in any way entrance exam scores or results of reading evaluations for athletes. Nebraska also says it does not identify students as athletes during the admissions process, and does not have any reading specialists.

Nebraska - where the "N" stands for "not telling".

 

[HuskerinBig10]

University of Nebraska


Nebraska denied our requests, saying it does not keep records, or track in any way entrance exam scores or results of reading evaluations for athletes. Nebraska also says it does not identify students as athletes during the admissions process, and does not have any reading specialists.

Nebraska - where the "N" stands for "not telling".

Yeah, but Nebraska allowed Partial Qualifiers. Texas allows Athlete Students that score 200 on the SAT, but they don't allow partial qualifiers.

 

[nddulac]

Yeah, but Nebraska allowed Partial Qualifiers. Texas allows Athlete Students that score 200 on the SAT, but they don't allow partial qualifiers.

I stand corrected. The "N" stands for "neener, neener."

 

[oaknightshockey1]

I'm confused. Aren't partial qualifiers those who do not meet either the testing or GPA requirements mandated by the NCAA and they can't play until they complete a year of school? How could athletes have such low test scores yet not be considered partial qualifiers? There aren't partial qualifiers at the D1 level anymore, I guess I just don't understand how they could test so low yet still qualify.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

I'm confused. Aren't partial qualifiers those who do not meet either the testing or GPA requirements mandated by the NCAA and they can't play until they complete a year of school? How could athletes have such low test scores yet not be considered partial qualifiers? There aren't partial qualifiers at the D1 level anymore, I guess I just don't understand how they could test so low yet still qualify.

My guess, it depends on the terminology to classify them.

Nebraska called them Partial Qualifiers, other schools call them students.

Some rules apply to certain schools, and other schools are above the rules.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Is it just Nebraska fans butt hurt over Texas? Don't really see Missouri, Colorado or A&M fans hating Texas once they left. I mean A&M fans don't seem to like Texas but not obsessing while they left

A&M will always hate Texas, but that has nothing to do with the big 12. Mizzou doesn't really have a fan base, but they don't care about Texas one way or the other. Colorado also doesn't have a fan base, and they're just happy to be associated with the west coast. Nebraska has this weird obsession with Texas, it's scary. I don't know if it stems from Texas owning them on the football field, or they just needed a villain to blame why they wanted more money in the big ten. Honestly on these boards, if you have a question about Texas, the big 12, longhorn network, etc you're better off asking a Nebraska fan because they have all that research saved on their computer.

 

[Wild Turkey]

A&M will always hate Texas, but that has nothing to do with the big 12. Mizzou doesn't really have a fan base, but they don't care about Texas one way or the other. Colorado also doesn't have a fan base, and they're just happy to be associated with the west coast. Nebraska has this weird obsession with Texas, it's scary. I don't know if it stems from Texas owning them on the football field, or they just needed a villain to blame why they wanted more money in the big ten. Honestly on these boards, if you have a question about Texas, the big 12, longhorn network, etc you're better off asking a Nebraska fan because they have all that research saved on their computer.

Mizzou has a fan base and I've even seen some of them travel.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Mizzou has a fan base and I've even seen some of them travel.

Lies

 

[TexasExes98]

If Baylor completely implodes this will make the demise of the Big 12 that much faster. You can't have a two team conference it makes your schedule crap.

As comparedto being a one team conference like the SEC? Take Bama out and the SEC has ZERO legit playoff contenders this year.

 

[4down20]

As comparedto being a one team conference like the SEC? Take Bama out and the SEC has ZERO legit playoff contenders this year.

Whoever took Alabama out would be the contender...

 

[Wild Turkey]

As comparedto being a one team conference like the SEC? Take Bama out and the SEC has ZERO legit playoff contenders this year.

Ole Miss goes they would only have had one loss.

 

[Texas Jefe]

Ole Miss goes they would only have had one loss.

and they are in some trouble.

just watched Freeze and the AD on Finebaum.

self administering 11 scholarship reductions in next three years, and said "they hope the NCAA is satisfied".

Have to give 'ol Paul some credit here, he asked the tough questions. And as he said, in the past no school under investigation would EVER even admit to an interview just a few years ago. But Ole Miss knows it's a new time, a new day, and they are trying to get out in front and 'move this thing forward"...of course they know the longer it drags, the more difficult it is for them.

Freeze said he "believes his staff knew the rules and what he wanted before this, but they absolutely do now".

 

[Texas Jefe]

 

[Texas Jefe]

not really sure what Dodd is talking about...usually dont read his stuff anyway.

this was during the Boren interview today at the meeting

 

[Deep Creek]

not really sure what Dodd is talking about...usually dont read his stuff anyway.

this was during the Boren interview today at the meeting

Could be worse. Could be a member of the Baylor Board of Regents!

 

[nddulac]

Could be worse. Could be a member of the Baylor Board of Regents!

Do you honestly think the Minions of Satan are concerned they are doing evil things?

 

[BTHOtu]

I don't hate Texas anymore. Y'all aight

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Looks like Oklahoma is staying in the Big 12. Again.

CCG in 2017.

Baker Mayfield is eligible for 2016 and 2017. 2014 is his redshirt season, which sounds like the Big 12 made the right decision.

Big 12 network is dead. ESPN pitching to ACC/Big 12 is interesting. A desperate measure by ESPN, but it might just work. ESPN won't be making the $400,000,000(my absolutely complete guesstimate) it made off of the Big Ten each year. Throw that in, along with the ESPN payouts, and the subscriber losses, ESPN is going to be hurting.